On Thu, 2020-11-26 at 21:21 +0100, Jelle van der Waa wrote:
> On 21/11/2020 15:34, Filipe Laíns via arch-dev-public wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I want to propose adding all active Python versions to [community], not
> > just the latest one. This would only entail adding the interpreter
> > itself,
On 21/11/2020 15:34, Filipe Laíns via arch-dev-public wrote:
Hi all,
I want to propose adding all active Python versions to [community], not
just the latest one. This would only entail adding the interpreter
itself, no other packages.
Having access to interpreters for older active versions is r
Remember, write the angry email first, wait a half hour, then re-write.
Please keep the IRC flamewars to IRC where some of us can avoid it
without losing contact with important discussion. :)
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On Sun, 2020-11-22 at 11:45 -0500, Eli Schwartz via arch-dev-public wrote:
> On 11/22/20 10:05 AM, Filipe Laíns wrote:
> > On Sat, 2020-11-21 at 20:24 -0500, Eli Schwartz via arch-dev-public wrote:
> > > Your analysis is correct, it is indeed hell. I'm not sure why that is an
> > > argument in favo
On 11/22/20 10:05 AM, Filipe Laíns wrote:
> On Sat, 2020-11-21 at 20:24 -0500, Eli Schwartz via arch-dev-public wrote:
>> Your analysis is correct, it is indeed hell. I'm not sure why that is an
>> argument in favor of doing even more of it though.
>>
>> Now, if you were proposing to get rid of som
On Sun, 2020-11-22 at 09:43 -0600, Doug Newgard via arch-dev-public wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 15:32:22 +
> Filipe Laíns via arch-dev-public wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 2020-11-22 at 09:13 -0600, Doug Newgard via arch-dev-public wrote:
> > > Why did you start the discussion if you plan on ignoring
On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 15:32:22 +
Filipe Laíns via arch-dev-public wrote:
> On Sun, 2020-11-22 at 09:13 -0600, Doug Newgard via arch-dev-public wrote:
> > Why did you start the discussion if you plan on ignoring other people's
> > opinions anyway?
> >
> > Doug
>
> I am not ignoring Andreas'
On Sun, 2020-11-22 at 09:13 -0600, Doug Newgard via arch-dev-public wrote:
> Why did you start the discussion if you plan on ignoring other people's
> opinions anyway?
>
> Doug
I am not ignoring Andreas' or Eli's opinion, I understand that they don't want
these packages in the repos. What I am as
On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 15:05:04 +
Filipe Laíns via arch-dev-public wrote:
> As long as there is someone willing to maintain the packages, why would we
> block
> it? I doesn't really have any effect on the rest of the people. If the person
> start having trouble maintaining them, they can be drop
On Sat, 2020-11-21 at 20:24 -0500, Eli Schwartz via arch-dev-public wrote:
> Your analysis is correct, it is indeed hell. I'm not sure why that is an
> argument in favor of doing even more of it though.
>
> Now, if you were proposing to get rid of some of this, I could get
> behind that.
It was n
On 11/21/20 11:58 AM, Filipe Laíns via arch-dev-public wrote:
> pyenv forces users to compile the Python interpreter themselves, which
> can take a long time with --enable-optimizations.
> None of the user repos available builds with optimizations, or has
> signed packages AFAIK. Of course they cou
On 11/21/20 11:59 AM, Filipe Laíns via arch-dev-public wrote:
> On Sat, 2020-11-21 at 16:58 +0100, Andreas Radke via arch-dev-public
> wrote:
>> Am Sat, 21 Nov 2020 14:34:24 +
>> schrieb Filipe Laíns via arch-dev-public
>> :
>>
>>
>>> Does anyone have any big issue with this? What are your thou
Whoops, my email client messed up the formatting :/
Here's the reply without the quotes:
Looking at some package stats for pyenv[1], we see a usage of 3,4%. I
think that is a big enough number.
pyenv does have another usage, which is managing custom Python
interpreters, which is mainly used in
On Sat, 2020-11-21 at 19:11 +0100, Bartłomiej Piotrowski via arch-dev-public
wrote:
On 21/11/2020 18.48, Filipe Laíns via arch-dev-public wrote:
> I understand that. I am not asking to put all releases of Python on
> the
> repos, only the active ones, which people are using.
I presume you can bac
On 21/11/2020 18.48, Filipe Laíns via arch-dev-public wrote:
> I understand that. I am not asking to put all releases of Python on the
> repos, only the active ones, which people are using.
I presume you can back it up with numbers how widely 3.7 and 3.6 are
used by Arch users. All I can see is th
On Sat, 2020-11-21 at 11:24 -0600, Doug Newgard via arch-dev-public
wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:59:21 +
> Filipe Laíns via arch-dev-public
> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 2020-11-21 at 16:58 +0100, Andreas Radke via arch-dev-
> > public
> > wrote:
> > > Am Sat, 21 Nov 2020 14:34:24 +
> > > sch
On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:59:21 +
Filipe Laíns via arch-dev-public wrote:
> On Sat, 2020-11-21 at 16:58 +0100, Andreas Radke via arch-dev-public
> wrote:
> > Am Sat, 21 Nov 2020 14:34:24 +
> > schrieb Filipe Laíns via arch-dev-public
> > :
> >
> >
> > > Does anyone have any big issue wit
On Sat, 2020-11-21 at 16:58 +0100, Andreas Radke via arch-dev-public
wrote:
> Am Sat, 21 Nov 2020 14:34:24 +
> schrieb Filipe Laíns via arch-dev-public
> :
>
>
> > Does anyone have any big issue with this? What are your thoughts?
> >
> > [1] https://www.python.org/downloads/
> >
> > Cheers,
On Sat, 2020-11-21 at 16:59 +0100, Morten Linderud via arch-dev-public
wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 04:47:27PM +0100, David Runge wrote:
> > On 2020-11-21 14:34:24 (+), Filipe Laíns via arch-dev-public
> > wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I want to propose adding all active Python versions
On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 04:47:27PM +0100, David Runge wrote:
> On 2020-11-21 14:34:24 (+), Filipe Laíns via arch-dev-public wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I want to propose adding all active Python versions to [community], not
> > just the latest one. This would only entail adding the interpreter
Am Sat, 21 Nov 2020 14:34:24 +
schrieb Filipe Laíns via arch-dev-public
:
> Does anyone have any big issue with this? What are your thoughts?
>
> [1] https://www.python.org/downloads/
>
> Cheers,
> Filipe Laíns
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Arch is yours. Whoever needs more and older releases on the system -
just d
On 2020-11-21 14:34:24 (+), Filipe Laíns via arch-dev-public wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I want to propose adding all active Python versions to [community], not
> just the latest one. This would only entail adding the interpreter
> itself, no other packages.
>
> Having access to interpreters for old
On Sat, 2020-11-21 at 07:51 -0700, Zach Himsel wrote:
> What would determine what the "default" python be? The latest?
>
>
> --
> Zach Himsel
> mailto://z...@himsel.net
> http://zach.himsel.net
Yep, that would stay exactly as it is right now. We would only
additionally provide interpreters (and
Hi all,
I want to propose adding all active Python versions to [community], not
just the latest one. This would only entail adding the interpreter
itself, no other packages.
Having access to interpreters for older active versions is really
helpful for Python developers. This allows them to easily
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