Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ArchISO FTP Installer - Testers Needed

2008-03-26 Thread Christos Nouskas
Damir Perisa wrote: > i have a no-optical-drive laptop (non-macs are not able to boot from > firewire cdroms) and usually i prepare a image to put on a > memory-stick to boot from [1]. since this setting (no cdrom) are > getting more common and having a live-linux-system on a usb-key is > getting i

Re: [arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6

2008-03-26 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
On Wednesday 26 March 2008 23:10:58 Geoff wrote: > It assumes that there has been a debate (or perhaps that no > debate was possible in the first place), and has been lost there was on irc. its where i felt pretty alone with my ideas. left freenode. turns out that the medium irc is missing a major

Re: [arch-general] ArchISO FTP Installer - Testers Needed

2008-03-26 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Gerhard Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What i've noticed: > - km is missing to select other keyboard layout > - using the installer i never could mount the cd when saying: > Select packages->Mount the cdrom...->Available CD drives > My cdroms are shown (

Re: [arch-general] ArchISO FTP Installer - Testers Needed

2008-03-26 Thread Gerhard Brauer
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 03:53:52AM -0500, Simo Leone wrote: > Hey everyone, I've tested it on varios machines, Scenic, Thinkpad, IBMs, VirtualBox > **I need feedback on the following regarding ISO bootup** > - Did the grub loader work as expected? Yes > - Did it pick up and load the module for y

Re: [arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6

2008-03-26 Thread Geoff
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:43:14 -0700 Justin Gx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However if someone is really peeved about the direction > that Arch has begun to take they might always fork the > distro at the last version that was suitable to them - > comment out some problematic pacman mirrors ;) an

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ArchISO FTP Installer - Testers Needed

2008-03-26 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Simo Leone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 03:38:01PM +0200, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: > > > > WOW thanks! > > I had always been wondering how an Archlinux live CD would look and > > function, and now its the time to find out. > > May ask w

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ArchISO FTP Installer - Testers Needed

2008-03-26 Thread Simo Leone
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 03:38:01PM +0200, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: > > WOW thanks! > I had always been wondering how an Archlinux live CD would look and > function, and now its the time to find out. > May ask what are the requirements for it? Especially RAM usage. > I intend to try it at some poi

Re: [arch-general] Warning on php-apc update

2008-03-26 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 22:11:31 schrieb Pierre Schmitz: > Dear PHP user, > > the update from php-apc to Version 3.0.17 includes a security fix: > http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2008-1488 > > But it seems that the other changes of that new version are introducing > several problems whic

Re: [arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6

2008-03-26 Thread Justin Gx
Geoff wrote: > On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:21:26 -0500 > "Aaron Griffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Suffice to say: for all the "old timers" out there, I am >> on your side. I *am* an "old timer", and I will do >> everything in my power to make arch what it was. > > I switched to Arch last Se

[arch-general] Warning on php-apc update

2008-03-26 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Dear PHP user, the update from php-apc to Version 3.0.17 includes a security fix: http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2008-1488 But it seems that the other changes of that new version are introducing several problems which will cause php to crash. It seems to be quite random but I have see

Re: [arch-general] firefox & gcc 4.3

2008-03-26 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 03:26:40PM +0200, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 09:11:43PM +0100, Xavier wrote: > > Grigorios Bouzakis a écrit : > >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 01:57:49AM +0700, Emmanuel Benisty wrote: > >>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 08:39:55PM +0200, Grigorios Bouzakis wr

Re: [arch-general] Is foomatic-db-engine being attended-to re. Perl-5.10.0?

2008-03-26 Thread K. Piche
I've already fixed the PKGBUILD so that the next release will comply. k On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 17:49 -0400, Eric Belanger wrote: > On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Neil Darlow wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I noticed that package foomatic-db-engine installs some files into > > /usr/lib/perl5/current. > > > > Ac

Re: [arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6

2008-03-26 Thread Dimitrios Apostolou
Just my humble opinion on some of the issues raised: What Arch needs is to have strict guidelines on PKGBUILDs and kick out any developers that don't have the same idea. A proposition: * Patches are unacceptable unless in the case the software wouldn't work *at all* (Hint, qt PKGBUILD) +1 PLEA

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ArchISO FTP Installer - Testers Needed

2008-03-26 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Pierre Schmitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 18:19:19 schrieb Dan McGee: > > > The kernel would never get loaded if this was a grub issue- I think > > Aaron is right in that we don't have all the necessary drivers in our > > initrd, so t

Re: [arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6

2008-03-26 Thread Geoff
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:10:11 +0200 Hussam Al-Tayeb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guys, childish comments only interrupt developers from > getting work done. I believe Roman already told people > not to panic. So please just drop it. This is the general discussion list after all - the devs don't

Re: [arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6

2008-03-26 Thread Geoff
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:04:45 -0400 > I, personally, find this divisive rhetoric of good (old) > users vs. bad (new) users, as well as good developers > (who do what "we" want them to do) vs. bad developers > (who "should be kicked out") rather disturbing :/ I am sure that nobody wants to demonise

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ArchISO FTP Installer - Testers Needed

2008-03-26 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 18:19:19 schrieb Dan McGee: > The kernel would never get loaded if this was a grub issue- I think > Aaron is right in that we don't have all the necessary drivers in our > initrd, so the driver for his external CD drive wasn't loaded. You are right. I did missed the "ker

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6

2008-03-26 Thread Attila
On Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 16:58 bardo wrote: > Come on, Jan, you know this wasn't the message. It has already been > stated that patching *is* allowed (I'd say encouraged) when needed, > which means when there's breakage upstream. The point was about > superfluous patches, like those that add new

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ArchISO FTP Installer - Testers Needed

2008-03-26 Thread Dan McGee
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Pierre Schmitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 17:10:04 schrieb Aaron Griffin: > > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Rickard Eriksson > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > First of all I'd like to say nice project. > > > > > > An

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ArchISO FTP Installer - Testers Needed

2008-03-26 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 17:10:04 schrieb Aaron Griffin: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Rickard Eriksson > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > First of all I'd like to say nice project. > > > > And heres my first feedback: > > When I tried booting it up on my LG A1 (No internal CD-Rom) it kern

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6

2008-03-26 Thread Alessio Bolognino
On Wed 2008-03-26 16:46 , Jan de Groot wrote: > [...] > If patching is no longer allowed, get ready for a time where packages are > stuck in testing for ages because upstream broke it. Get ready to run a distro > that breaks your system on every pacman -Syu because upgrade paths are not > handled.

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ArchISO FTP Installer - Testers Needed

2008-03-26 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Rickard Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First of all I'd like to say nice project. > > And heres my first feedback: > When I tried booting it up on my LG A1 (No internal CD-Rom) it kernel > paniced on me saying: Couldn't find CD-Rom. Ah, interesting. Simo

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6

2008-03-26 Thread bardo
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Jan de Groot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If patching is no longer allowed, get ready for a time where packages are > stuck in testing for ages because upstream broke it. Get ready to run a > distro that breaks your system on every pacman -Syu because upgrade pat

Re: [arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6

2008-03-26 Thread bardo
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Filip Wojciechowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I, personally, find this divisive rhetoric of good (old) users vs. bad > (new) users, as well as good developers (who do what "we" want them to > do) vs. bad developers (who "should be kicked out") rather disturbin

Re: [arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6

2008-03-26 Thread Jan de Groot
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:arch-general- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Aaron Griffin > Verzonden: woensdag 26 maart 2008 0:37 > Aan: General Discusson about Arch Linux > Onderwerp: Re: [arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6 > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 2:07

Re: [arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6

2008-03-26 Thread Maik Beckmann
Am Mittwoch 26 März 2008 15:46:28 schrieb olivier bordes: > Hi, exact same for me. > "old timer", don't want to be babied, don't want hidden nasty things to be > done in my back. I love the simplicity and straightforward way of Arch. > I consider myself not a "old timer", I installed Linux in 2005

Re: [arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6

2008-03-26 Thread Hussam Al-Tayeb
On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 15:46 +0100, olivier bordes wrote: > Hi, exact same for me. > "old timer", don't want to be babied, don't want hidden nasty things to be > done in my back. > I love the simplicity and straightforward way of Arch. > > This is the perfect definition for Arch, and 100% adhere

Re: [arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6

2008-03-26 Thread olivier bordes
Original Message Subject: Re:[arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6 From: Dwight Schauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: General Discusson about Arch Linux Date: mer 26 mar 2008 14:13:42 CET On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Aaron Griffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Suffice to sa

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ArchISO FTP Installer - Testers Needed

2008-03-26 Thread Rickard Eriksson
First of all I'd like to say nice project. And heres my first feedback: When I tried booting it up on my LG A1 (No internal CD-Rom) it kernel paniced on me saying: Couldn't find CD-Rom. I'm more than happy to beta testa some more if the next version includes me being able too boot it up :-)

Re: [arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6

2008-03-26 Thread Filip Wojciechowski
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Roman Kyrylych <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Hey, please everyone don't be scared about Arch becoming an Ubuntu clone, > issues that devs are discussing recently are *far* from that, > so do not oversize the situation please. > Don't Panic! ;-) > > -- >

Re: [arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6

2008-03-26 Thread Roman Kyrylych
2008/3/26, Dwight Schauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Aaron Griffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Suffice to say: for all the "old timers" out there, I am on your side. > > I *am* an "old timer", and I will do everything in my power to make > > arch what it was. >

Re: [arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6

2008-03-26 Thread Didi
Arch should be careful not to go the same way Gentoo did. (Of course Arch and Gentoo are two different concepts). Gentoo at the beginning was quite purist and you had do have "some *NIX intelligence" to use it. You had to know how the start up worked and how the kernel is called by grub, if you did

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ArchISO FTP Installer - Testers Needed

2008-03-26 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 03:53:52AM -0500, Simo Leone wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I'd like to begin testing some preliminary work with the arch livecd > system. You can find a livecd rigged up to work as an ftp installer at: > http://dev.archlinux.org/~simo/archiso_tests/arch-ftp-live-1206519468.iso

Re: [arch-general] firefox & gcc 4.3

2008-03-26 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 09:11:43PM +0100, Xavier wrote: > Grigorios Bouzakis a écrit : >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 01:57:49AM +0700, Emmanuel Benisty wrote: >>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 08:39:55PM +0200, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: Hi, i have been trying to build firefox3b4 or firefox 2.0.0.12 for

Re: [arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6

2008-03-26 Thread Dwight Schauer
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Aaron Griffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Suffice to say: for all the "old timers" out there, I am on your side. > I *am* an "old timer", and I will do everything in my power to make > arch what it was. I switched to arch only recently, but I've been using linu

Re: [arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6

2008-03-26 Thread Giovanni Scafora
2008/3/26, Aaron Griffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Suffice to say: for all the "old timers" out there, I am on your side. > I *am* an "old timer", and I will do everything in my power to make > arch what it was. You're my hero. :-) Count me too on that list. -- Giovanni Scafora Arch Linux Trust

Re: [arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6

2008-03-26 Thread Geoff
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:21:26 -0500 "Aaron Griffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Suffice to say: for all the "old timers" out there, I am > on your side. I *am* an "old timer", and I will do > everything in my power to make arch what it was. I switched to Arch last September, from Slackware, pre

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ArchISO FTP Installer - Testers Needed

2008-03-26 Thread Damir Perisa
Wednesday 26 March 2008, Simo Leone wrote: | I'd like to begin testing some preliminary work with the arch | livecd system. You can find a livecd rigged up to work as an ftp | installer at: | http://dev.archlinux.org/~simo/archiso_tests/arch-ftp-live-1206519 |468.iso i'll give it a try in qe

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ArchISO FTP Installer - Testers Needed

2008-03-26 Thread Roman Kyrylych
2008/3/26, Simo Leone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hey everyone, > > I'd like to begin testing some preliminary work with the arch livecd > system. You can find a livecd rigged up to work as an ftp installer at: > http://dev.archlinux.org/~simo/archiso_tests/arch-ftp-live-1206519468.iso I'll be able

Re: [arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6

2008-03-26 Thread bardo
I feel the need to express my position for a variety of reasons, the most prominent being I am the one who proposed the discussion about the automatic service stopping before uninstalling. Let me state this again: I proposed the *discussion* about it, since there was no official guideline. I never

[arch-general] ArchISO FTP Installer - Testers Needed

2008-03-26 Thread Simo Leone
Hey everyone, I'd like to begin testing some preliminary work with the arch livecd system. You can find a livecd rigged up to work as an ftp installer at: http://dev.archlinux.org/~simo/archiso_tests/arch-ftp-live-1206519468.iso This ISO consists of our current installer scripts and a functioning