[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-LTS 2.6.32.14-1

2010-05-27 Thread Andreas Radke
We want to replace the LTS kernel series .27 soon with the .32 series. The .32 series has been in testing now for a while. Please test if anything is broken for you apart from broken modules you have built your own. Maybe we provide module packages in the future. One issue is known in .32 series:

Re: [arch-general] cdrtools again... yay! - Was: Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Michael Towers
"This used to be about free sharing of code, but now we need lawyers involved just to do that? Whenever a lawyer is involved, there is certainly no freedom, just random blabla that nobody understands." I think you've hit the nail on the head there, Thomas. We should never lose sight of basic value

Re: [arch-general] test

2010-05-27 Thread Andres P
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 09:21:07AM +0530, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 7:58 AM, papul wrote: > > Sorry for this useless message. testing some service. > > > > > > You're send a test message to 500-1000 people on a mailing list. > Idiotic. Create a mail account on another p

Re: [arch-general] Configuring Arch to only use a single interface and not probe for another netowrking interface?

2010-05-27 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Ionut Biru wrote: > On 05/27/2010 11:22 PM, Keith Hinton wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> The subject should spell it out, but what I'm wondering is if there is any >> way to force Arch to not probe for say eth0 when eth1 is prefered over eth0 >> and such? >> Thanks for any

Re: [arch-general] test

2010-05-27 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 7:58 AM, papul wrote: > Sorry for this useless message. testing some service. > > You're send a test message to 500-1000 people on a mailing list. Idiotic. Create a mail account on another provider and test your thing. Don't annoy us. Mr. Aaron may ban you if you do this o

Re: [arch-general] how to test kde

2010-05-27 Thread Allan McRae
On 28/05/10 13:08, papul wrote: Hi, How can i test KDE beta in arch? Do i have to compile everything or is there a beta software repo available for testing? Thanks, Papul If you are prepared for breakage... enable the [kde-unstable] repo: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=97899

[arch-general] how to test kde

2010-05-27 Thread papul
Hi, How can i test KDE beta in arch? Do i have to compile everything or is there a beta software repo available for testing? Thanks, Papul

Re: [arch-general] dualboot?

2010-05-27 Thread PT M.
Python is powerful, easier to learn/read/write(compare to perl), lightful(compare to C++/Java), thats why python is sexy. Dual-boot linuxs is never a problem to grub, i guess that why never any document got such topic detailed, all you need to do is to modify /boot/grub/menu.lst, even not at all

[arch-general] test

2010-05-27 Thread papul
Sorry for this useless message. testing some service.

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] device-mapper/lvm2 2.02.66 and cryptsetup 1.1.1

2010-05-27 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 27.05.2010 23:08, schrieb Ray Kohler: > You need "force" option for cryptsetup because 1.1.1_rc2-1 sorts as > newer than 1.1.1-1: > > warning: cryptsetup: local (1.1.1_rc2-1) is newer than testing (1.1.1-1) > I think I'm not going to add it. The 'force' option introduces some very weird behav

Re: [arch-general] Strange suspend behaviour

2010-05-27 Thread Stefan Afradi
> >> I've set up my system so that when I close the laptop lid the computer > >> goes into suspend mode. However, when I wake it up by pressing the power > >> button the system > >> starts, and after 3-5 sec it goes into suspend mode again. If I then press > >> the power button again, it start

Re: [arch-general] dualboot?

2010-05-27 Thread audioslave10152
Why wouldn't you install both? On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Jeroen Op 't Eynde wrote: > On Thu, 27 May 2010 23:17:42 +0200, John K Pate > wrote: > > Maybe just compare the websites... obviously Python wins! :) >>> >> >> At any rate, there's no reason not to install both euphoria and python.

Re: [arch-general] dualboot?

2010-05-27 Thread Jeroen Op 't Eynde
On Thu, 27 May 2010 23:17:42 +0200, John K Pate wrote: Maybe just compare the websites... obviously Python wins! :) At any rate, there's no reason not to install both euphoria and python. If you're planning on sticking with a distribution like Arch that requires you to `look under the h

Re: [arch-general] dualboot?

2010-05-27 Thread John K Pate
On Thu, 27 May 2010, Jeroen Op 't Eynde wrote: On Thu, 27 May 2010 18:48:38 +0200, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:12 PM, David Lowe wrote: > I'm new to Arch Linux & Linux in general, so please excuse any newbie > questions... > Can the Arch Linux install do a dualboo

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] device-mapper/lvm2 2.02.66 and cryptsetup 1.1.1

2010-05-27 Thread Ray Kohler
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > I put updated device-mapper/lvm2 2.02.66 and cryptsetup 1.1.1 > packages to testing. > > These packages enable udev synchronization to finally get rid of all > race conditions related to udev rules. I also cleaned up the PKGBUILDs > massivel

Re: [arch-general] dualboot?

2010-05-27 Thread Jeroen Op 't Eynde
On Thu, 27 May 2010 18:48:38 +0200, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:12 PM, David Lowe wrote: I'm new to Arch Linux & Linux in general, so please excuse any newbie questions... Can the Arch Linux install do a dualboot installation? I've read some documentation and

Re: [arch-general] dualboot?

2010-05-27 Thread Ray Kohler
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 4:42 PM, David Rosenstrauch wrote: > On 05/27/2010 04:21 PM, Stefan Husmann wrote: >> >> python is no requirement for Arch Linux itself. If you do not like it, >> just do not install it. > > Isn't pacman written in python?  That would make python a requirement for > Arch th

Re: [arch-general] dualboot?

2010-05-27 Thread Loui Chang
On Thu 27 May 2010 16:42 -0400, David Rosenstrauch wrote: > On 05/27/2010 04:21 PM, Stefan Husmann wrote: > >python is no requirement for Arch Linux itself. If you do not like it, > >just do not install it. > > Isn't pacman written in python? That would make python a > requirement for Arch then,

Re: [arch-general] dualboot?

2010-05-27 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 05/27/2010 04:21 PM, Stefan Husmann wrote: python is no requirement for Arch Linux itself. If you do not like it, just do not install it. Isn't pacman written in python? That would make python a requirement for Arch then, right? DR

Re: [arch-general] Configuring Arch to only use a single interface and not probe for another netowrking interface?

2010-05-27 Thread Ionut Biru
On 05/27/2010 11:22 PM, Keith Hinton wrote: Hi all, The subject should spell it out, but what I'm wondering is if there is any way to force Arch to not probe for say eth0 when eth1 is prefered over eth0 and such? Thanks for any help on that question! Basically eth0 is my laptop's ethernet card,

[arch-general] Configuring Arch to only use a single interface and not probe for another netowrking interface?

2010-05-27 Thread Keith Hinton
Hi all, The subject should spell it out, but what I'm wondering is if there is any way to force Arch to not probe for say eth0 when eth1 is prefered over eth0 and such? Thanks for any help on that question! Basically eth0 is my laptop's ethernet card, while eth1 is the wireless card. While the w

Re: [arch-general] dualboot?

2010-05-27 Thread Stefan Husmann
Am 27.05.2010 18:42, schrieb David Lowe: I'm new to Arch Linux& Linux in general, so please excuse any newbie questions... Can the Arch Linux install do a dualboot installation? I've read some documentation and it seems to be iffy on this point. Also, why are most Linux users and programmers

Re: [arch-general] cdrtools again... yay! - Was: Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Gaurish Sharma
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 27.05.2010 17:52, schrieb Loui Chang: > > When has that happened? I would gladly package cdrtools. I know from > many users that it is superior to cdrkit (although I never had any > trouble with either of them). However, I fear that some

Re: [arch-general] cdrtools again... yay! - Was: Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Loui Chang
On Thu 27 May 2010 14:41 -0500, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Loui Chang wrote: > > http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2010-January/010357.html > > http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2010-May/013557.html > > eh? more circles? What

Re: [arch-general] cdrtools again... yay! - Was: Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Loui Chang wrote: > http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2010-January/010357.html > http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2010-May/013557.html eh? more circles? On Thu 27 May 2010 19:11 +0200, Thomas Bächler wrote: > When has that hap

Re: [arch-general] cdrtools again... yay! - Was: Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Loui Chang
On Thu 27 May 2010 19:11 +0200, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 27.05.2010 17:52, schrieb Loui Chang: > > Anyways, it's been stated that > > licensing isn't really the issue any more. The fact is no Dev or TU is > > interested in maintaining cdrtools. Jörg has something to learn about > > how to deal wi

[arch-general] [signoff] device-mapper/lvm2 2.02.66 and cryptsetup 1.1.1

2010-05-27 Thread Thomas Bächler
I put updated device-mapper/lvm2 2.02.66 and cryptsetup 1.1.1 packages to testing. These packages enable udev synchronization to finally get rid of all race conditions related to udev rules. I also cleaned up the PKGBUILDs massively and removed all static binaries and libraries from the packages.

Re: [arch-general] dualboot?

2010-05-27 Thread Louis Brazeau
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:42 PM, David Lowe wrote: > I'm new to Arch Linux & Linux in general, so please excuse any newbie > questions... > Can the Arch Linux install do a dualboot installation?  I've read some > documentation > and it seems to be iffy on this point. > Also, why are most Linux

Re: [arch-general] cdrtools again... yay! - Was: Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Loui Chang
On Thu 27 May 2010 18:32 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Loui Chang wrote: > > That would be nice and useful if people actually believed that there > > would be an end to this discussion. Anyways, it's been stated that > > licensing isn't really the issue any more. The fact is no Dev or TU is > >

Re: [arch-general] This is the "arch"-general list - Was Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread fons
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 07:55:24PM +0530, Gaurish Sharma wrote: > Joerg does has few odd things maybe because he is wrong or we are > wrong but either way; we shouldn't be rude to him.he is the reason we > have working cd/dvd burning support on Linux. AFAIK, he is working on > cdrtools since 1995,

Re: [arch-general] cdrtools again... yay! - Was: Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 27.05.2010 17:52, schrieb Loui Chang: > Anyways, it's been stated that > licensing isn't really the issue any more. The fact is no Dev or TU is > interested in maintaining cdrtools. Jörg has something to learn about > how to deal with people, but he's too stubborn to take any advice. When has t

Re: [arch-general] perl-list-moreutils 0.22-2

2010-05-27 Thread Ionut Biru
On 05/27/2010 08:02 PM, Caleb Cushing wrote: saw this updated this morning and got curious as to why. I looked at it and it seems little more than a PKGBUILD improvement... nothing that would affect current users. why bump the pkgrel? also this version isn't on abs I don't know what affects that

[arch-general] perl-list-moreutils 0.22-2

2010-05-27 Thread Caleb Cushing
saw this updated this morning and got curious as to why. I looked at it and it seems little more than a PKGBUILD improvement... nothing that would affect current users. why bump the pkgrel? also this version isn't on abs I don't know what affects that though. -- Caleb Cushing http://xenoterracide

Re: [arch-general] dualboot?

2010-05-27 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:12 PM, David Lowe wrote: > I'm new to Arch Linux & Linux in general, so please excuse any newbie > questions... > Can the Arch Linux install do a dualboot installation?  I've read some > documentation > and it seems to be iffy on this point. > Also, why are most Linux

Re: [arch-general] This is the "arch"-general list - Was Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Aaron Griffin > wrote: >> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Attila wrote: >>> At Donnerstag, 27. Mai 2010 16:25 Gaurish Sharma wrote:  Also the truth is one person cannot be responsible for 50+

Re: [arch-general] This is the "arch"-general list - Was Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Attila wrote: >> At Donnerstag, 27. Mai 2010 16:25 Gaurish Sharma wrote: >>>  Also the truth is one person cannot be responsible for 50+threads. >>> other people are replying to as well, so should be Joerg

[arch-general] dualboot?

2010-05-27 Thread David Lowe
I'm new to Arch Linux & Linux in general, so please excuse any newbie questions... Can the Arch Linux install do a dualboot installation?  I've read some documentation and it seems to be iffy on this point.  Also, why are most Linux users and programmers so obsessed with Python? I'd much rather

Re: [arch-general] cdrtools again... yay! - Was: Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Loui Chang wrote: > On Thu 27 May 2010 14:43 +0200, Xavier Chantry wrote: >> Dozens of people have contributed to the discussion, but no one >> actually cares about getting some clarifications ? >> I just don't get it. >> I feel like I did my part of the work alrea

Re: [arch-general] This is the "arch"-general list - Was Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Attila wrote: > At Donnerstag, 27. Mai 2010 16:25 Gaurish Sharma wrote: >>  Also the truth is one person cannot be responsible for 50+threads. >> other people are replying to as well, so should be Joerg be blamed >> alone? if you want to ban, he should not be only

Re: [arch-general] cdrtools again... yay! - Was: Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Loui Chang wrote: > That would be nice and useful if people actually believed that there > would be an end to this discussion. Anyways, it's been stated that > licensing isn't really the issue any more. The fact is no Dev or TU is > interested in maintaining cdrtools. Jörg has something to learn

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] glibc-2.12 toolchain build

2010-05-27 Thread dave reisner
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > I think gdb is fine... but I have not used it extensively. I'd > appreciate reports from anyone who has extensively used gdb and valgrind > with the new glibc. > > Allan > I've been using valgrind on the new glibc. It reports a whole new

Re: [arch-general] Running Mozilla Prism?

2010-05-27 Thread Nicolás Reynolds
Thu, May 27, 2010 at 04:41:19PM +0100, Peter Lewis dijo: > On Thursday 27 May 2010 at 16:34 Peter Lewis wrote: > > > there you go :) > > > > > > http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=37539 > > Ah, also that /usr/bin/prism links to the pkgdir when it should link to > /usr/lib/prism-1.0b4/bin/p

Re: [arch-general] cdrtools again... yay! - Was: Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Loui Chang
On Thu 27 May 2010 14:43 +0200, Xavier Chantry wrote: > Dozens of people have contributed to the discussion, but no one > actually cares about getting some clarifications ? > I just don't get it. > I feel like I did my part of the work already by getting a report from > Eben, just to see Joerg accu

Re: [arch-general] This is the "arch"-general list - Was Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Attila
At Donnerstag, 27. Mai 2010 16:25 Gaurish Sharma wrote: > Joerg does has few odd things maybe because he is wrong or we are > wrong but either way; we shouldn't be rude to him.he is the reason we > have working cd/dvd burning support on Linux. AFAIK, he is working on > cdrtools since 1995, much be

Re: [arch-general] Running Mozilla Prism?

2010-05-27 Thread Peter Lewis
On Thursday 27 May 2010 at 16:34 Peter Lewis wrote: > > there you go :) > > > > http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=37539 Ah, also that /usr/bin/prism links to the pkgdir when it should link to /usr/lib/prism-1.0b4/bin/prism But, fixing that, it launches but just gives a window with the fo

Re: [arch-general] Running Mozilla Prism?

2010-05-27 Thread Peter Lewis
On Thursday 27 May 2010 at 13:35 Nicolás Reynolds wrote: > > I don't have time to do this right now, but if anyone fancies turning > > these instructions into a prism-svn package, then I'd be happy to help > > test. > there you go :) > > http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=37539 Excellent,

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] glibc-2.12 toolchain build

2010-05-27 Thread Allan McRae
On 28/05/10 00:55, Jan de Groot wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-22 at 20:45 +1000, Allan McRae wrote: Hi, Glibc-2.12 toolchain rebuild. Fedora has been running something like the glibc-2.12 release for the last few weeks so as always it should be nice and safe. linux-api-headers-2.6.34-1 - update

Re: [arch-general] This is the "arch"-general list - Was Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Gaurish Sharma
Hi, Joerg does has few odd things maybe because he is wrong or we are wrong but either way; we shouldn't be rude to him.he is the reason we have working cd/dvd burning support on Linux. AFAIK, he is working on cdrtools since 1995, much before I was knew what OSS was. he gave us his full source code

Re: [arch-general] This is the "arch"-general list - Was Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Daenyth Blank wrote: > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 06:56, Allan McRae wrote: >> [it is rude not to change subject lines when going off-topic...] >> >> On 27/05/10 20:13, Joerg Schilling wrote: >>> Blah, blah, blah >> >> Seriously, stop it.   50+ messages that are ent

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] pkg-config-0.24-1

2010-05-27 Thread Allan McRae
On 27/05/10 23:50, Dan McGee wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Ray Kohler wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Allan McRae wrote: Upstream update. Renamved from pkgconfig to pkg-config as has been done upstream for some time now. This looks funny to me: $ pacman -Qi pkg-config |

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] pkg-config-0.24-1

2010-05-27 Thread Dan McGee
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Ray Kohler wrote: > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Allan McRae wrote: >> Upstream update.   Renamved from pkgconfig to pkg-config as has been done >> upstream for some time now. > > This looks funny to me: > > $ pacman -Qi pkg-config | grep '^Provides' > Provide

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] pkg-config-0.24-1

2010-05-27 Thread Ray Kohler
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > Upstream update.   Renamved from pkgconfig to pkg-config as has been done > upstream for some time now. This looks funny to me: $ pacman -Qi pkg-config | grep '^Provides' Provides : pkgconfig=${pkgver} Isn't it supposed to be expanded?

Re: [arch-general] This is the "arch"-general list - Was Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Daenyth Blank
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 06:56, Allan McRae wrote: > [it is rude not to change subject lines when going off-topic...] > > On 27/05/10 20:13, Joerg Schilling wrote: >> Blah, blah, blah > > Seriously, stop it.   50+ messages that are entirely off-topic for the > original question. I agree. Joerg, yo

Re: [arch-general] Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Adam Lantos wrote: > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Damjan Georgievski > wrote: > >  - it will put to an END to any possible misinterpretations and > > uncertainties - now and in the future > > he certainly is not interested in ending these pointless battles :) Let me correct yoour typo: I

Re: [arch-general] cdrtools again... yay! - Was: Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Xavier Chantry wrote: > Then, if you want to do something about it, just go ahead and talk > with these people Joerg kindly mentioned. > Ask them whether they agree or disagree with Eben's interpretation > that GPL compliance on mkisofs is broken : > http://mailman

Re: [arch-general] Running Mozilla Prism?

2010-05-27 Thread Nicolás Reynolds
Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:44:03AM +0100, Peter Lewis dijo: > On Wednesday 26 May 2010 at 11:31 Peter Lewis wrote: > >> The stand-alone app is only built for 32bit by upstream (that seems to be a > >> common situation for Mozilla stuff, rather sad if you ask me ;-). The code > >> is available in an

Re: [arch-general] Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Adam Lantos
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Damjan Georgievski wrote: >  - it will put to an END to any possible misinterpretations and > uncertainties - now and in the future he certainly is not interested in ending these pointless battles :)

Re: [arch-general] Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Damjan Georgievski
>> Jörg, why don't you just change the license of your cdrtools to a >> licensing scheme - either change every part of it to the GPL, set it >> under a dual license or whatever - which is indisputable and doubtless >> instead of arguing with the distributors all the time over years? >> >> It's real

[arch-general] This is the "arch"-general list - Was Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Allan McRae
[it is rude not to change subject lines when going off-topic...] On 27/05/10 20:13, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Blah, blah, blah Seriously, stop it. 50+ messages that are entirely off-topic for the original question. This is list is for discussion about Arch Linux, not for discussing the lic

Re: [arch-general] Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Attila wrote: > Sorry to say but until there is no decision from a law court i see this only > as > a interpersonal problem and therefore i prefer to discuss about technical > things. Perhaps this is because i'm a former OS/2 user but what i really > don't > understand is the support for sof

Re: [arch-general] [URGENT] Assistance Requested in Looking for Dr Francis T. Seow, Harvard Law School Research Fellow

2010-05-27 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
Dear Christopher, I have sent countless emails to many governmental, non-governmental and international organizations in the world with the subject "Plea for Medical Help/Assistance". But surprisingly I get very few replies. Maybe the replies have been deleted or the emails I sent have been de

Re: [arch-general] Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
C Anthony Risinger wrote: > in the spirit of open licenses, mildly incompatible or not, include > the best tool for the job = cdrtools. > > on a final note, Jeorg, it would be extremely beneficial if you could > cite a hard resource regarding the legalities involved here, as you > seem to have a

Re: [arch-general] Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Mauro Santos wrote: > > Later, some "religuous" crowd came up and claimed that Earth is flat. > > > > I encourage you to just ignore those people who claim that Earth is flat > > and > > that there is a supposed legal problem with cdrtools. > > Sure I can ignore people who say that Earth is fl