Re: [arch-general] Arch forum and wiki down

2011-12-09 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 5:52 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > -Original Message- > From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Karol Blazewicz > Sent: Fri 12/9/2011 21:13 > > I've e-mailed Pierre, Ioni and Florian. > Hopefully things will get fixed soon. > > +++ > > No issues here, at l

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-09 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
> Actually, it did. (http://www.trinitydesktop.org/about.php) It just > hasn't really gained too much critical mass. (Yet?) > > +++ Wow... I leaved kde whe it abandon kde3... I did not like the kde4 system. FreeBSD still have kde3 running and well... Thank you for the informtion

Re: [arch-general] partition sizes and filesystems (Re: Install Arch instages?)

2011-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
-Original Message- From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of clemens fischer Sent: Fri 12/9/2011 23:26 Leonid Isaev wrote: > I think it's a better idea to have either /var/lib or entire /var on > reiserfs. > > /ext4 30Gb > /var ext4 10Gb > /bootext4

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
-Original Message- From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of David Rosenstrauch Sent: Fri 12/9/2011 21:47 On 12/08/2011 05:23 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > KDE3 had no comeback Actually, it did. (http://www.trinitydesktop.org/about.php) It just hasn't really gained too much cr

Re: [arch-general] Arch forum and wiki down

2011-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
-Original Message- From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Karol Blazewicz Sent: Fri 12/9/2011 21:13 I've e-mailed Pierre, Ioni and Florian. Hopefully things will get fixed soon. +++ No issues here, at least the following are currently reachable. http://www.archlinux.org/

Re: [arch-general] Install Arch in stages?

2011-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
-Original Message- From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of clemens fischer Sent: Fri 12/9/2011 20:22 Grant McDuling wrote: > Hi, I am new to Arch, being a Mint user until now. I have the iso on > CD now and ready to install. Can I do this is stages or is it best to > do the

Re: [arch-general] getaddrinfo

2011-12-09 Thread Myra Nelson
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 18:00, clemens fischer < ino-n...@spotteswoode.dnsalias.org> wrote: > Myra Nelson wrote: > > > After some more searching, work, and this email from the libc help > > list [ http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-help/2011-12/msg0.html > > ] , I've attempted the code from Ulrich D

Re: [arch-general] Top level node not shown in Texinfo viewer

2011-12-09 Thread Ricardo Catalinas Jiménez
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > > One silly question (I'm not an ABS expert), in the package sources I saw > > defined in the file `texinfo.install': > > > > infodir=usr/share/info > > > > Does it matter the relative path?, in contrast to something like this: > > > >

Re: [arch-general] partition sizes and filesystems (Re: Install Arch in stages?)

2011-12-09 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 10 Dec 2011 01:25:16 +0100 schrieb Karol Babioch : > Well that sounds a little bit misguiding for me. Once the device is > "opened" its totally transparent, so not only the kernel has access to > the data, but also any other running process / program. Of course the > "normal" file permissi

Re: [arch-general] partition sizes and filesystems (Re: Install Arch in stages?)

2011-12-09 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 9 Dec 2011 17:32:51 -0600 schrieb Leonid Isaev : > It slows down as the partition fills up, no? No. There was always enough space on the partitions. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] partition sizes and filesystems (Re: Install Arch in stages?)

2011-12-09 Thread Karol Babioch
Hi, Am 09.12.2011 21:14, schrieb Leonid Isaev: > I think it's a better idea to have either /var/lib or entire /var on reiserfs. Of course everyone is free to choose and experiment with the different available options, but in general I think you don't make anything wrong when choosing ext4. Beside

Re: [arch-general] getaddrinfo

2011-12-09 Thread clemens fischer
Myra Nelson wrote: > After some more searching, work, and this email from the libc help > list [ http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-help/2011-12/msg0.html > ] , I've attempted the code from Ulrich Dreppers page at > http://www.akkadia.org/drepper/userapi-ipv6.html . The newer version > of the code

[arch-general] KDE Debugging

2011-12-09 Thread Nicolás Adamo
Does anybody know how to make a good bug repport using the inbuilt KDE Bug Tool? It launches whenever a bug occurs, but if I try to complete the bug fill (or report) it says the information is useless... Arch doesn't have a package specific for KDE Debugging, so I wanted to know if anybody make

Re: [arch-general] partition sizes and filesystems (Re: Install Arch in stages?)

2011-12-09 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:13:53 +0100 Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Fri, 9 Dec 2011 17:03:03 -0600 > schrieb Leonid Isaev : > > > Reiser 3.6 is considered feature-complete I think, so only bugfixes > > are released. It was the default on SuSE until SLES 10 and is still > > maintained. > > ReiserFS 3.6 i

Re: [arch-general] Linking issue, glibc weirdness?

2011-12-09 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from clemens fischer's message of 2011-12-09 23:36:07 +0100: > Allan McRae wrote: > > > On 10/12/11 07:29, Ionut Biru wrote: > > > >> On 12/09/2011 09:25 PM, Philipp wrote: > >> > >>> Hi there, I have linking issues with one of the programs I maintain > >>> in AUR and I don't quite unders

Re: [arch-general] Linking issue, glibc weirdness?

2011-12-09 Thread Allan McRae
On 10/12/11 08:36, clemens fischer wrote: > Allan McRae wrote: > >> On 10/12/11 07:29, Ionut Biru wrote: >> >>> On 12/09/2011 09:25 PM, Philipp wrote: >>> Hi there, I have linking issues with one of the programs I maintain in AUR and I don't quite understand the issue. Here's the output:

Re: [arch-general] partition sizes and filesystems (Re: Install Arch in stages?)

2011-12-09 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 9 Dec 2011 17:03:03 -0600 schrieb Leonid Isaev : > Reiser 3.6 is considered feature-complete I think, so only bugfixes > are released. It was the default on SuSE until SLES 10 and is still > maintained. ReiserFS 3.6 is fast on a new system, but gets extremely slow after a few years. That

Re: [arch-general] Linking issue, glibc weirdness?

2011-12-09 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 11:55:18PM +0100, Philipp Überbacher wrote: > Looked in the wrong place, fixed. > The problem is that it's necessary to specify -lpthread now and in > future. It will likely hit you too once the mirror you use syncs and > you update. Not sure which package is responsible,

Re: [arch-general] partition sizes and filesystems (Re: Install Arch in stages?)

2011-12-09 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 23:26:47 +0100 clemens fischer wrote: > Leonid Isaev wrote: > > > I think it's a better idea to have either /var/lib or entire /var on > > reiserfs. > > > > /ext4 30Gb > > /var ext4 10Gb > > /bootext4 100Mb > > /var/lib reiserfs 500Mb > > /home

Re: [arch-general] Linking issue, glibc weirdness?

2011-12-09 Thread clemens fischer
Allan McRae wrote: > On 10/12/11 07:29, Ionut Biru wrote: > >> On 12/09/2011 09:25 PM, Philipp wrote: >> >>> Hi there, I have linking issues with one of the programs I maintain >>> in AUR and I don't quite understand the issue. Here's the output: >>> >>> g++ -Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,re

Re: [arch-general] Linking issue, glibc weirdness?

2011-12-09 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Fons Adriaensen's message of 2011-12-09 23:29:39 +0100: > On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 10:23:53PM +0100, Philipp Überbacher wrote: > > > Can you try it using the PKGBUILD? (Download tarball, extract, cd to the > > directory, type makepkg) > > https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2571

Re: [arch-general] Linking issue, glibc weirdness?

2011-12-09 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Allan McRae's message of 2011-12-09 23:32:26 +0100: > On 10/12/11 08:12, Philipp Überbacher wrote: > > Excerpts from Allan McRae's message of 2011-12-09 23:04:54 +0100: > >> On 10/12/11 07:29, Ionut Biru wrote: > >>> On 12/09/2011 09:25 PM, Philipp wrote: > Hi there, > I hav

[arch-general] partition sizes and filesystems (Re: Install Arch in stages?)

2011-12-09 Thread clemens fischer
Leonid Isaev wrote: > I think it's a better idea to have either /var/lib or entire /var on > reiserfs. > > /ext4 30Gb > /var ext4 10Gb > /bootext4 100Mb > /var/lib reiserfs 500Mb > /homeext4 85Gb > /tmp ext2 2Gb Interesting! Why do you think that? Me

Re: [arch-general] Linking issue, glibc weirdness?

2011-12-09 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 10:23:53PM +0100, Philipp Überbacher wrote: > Can you try it using the PKGBUILD? (Download tarball, extract, cd to the > directory, type makepkg) > https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=25711 ==> Starting build()... /home/fons/build/jmeters/PKGBUILD: line 19: DSO.patch

Re: [arch-general] Linking issue, glibc weirdness?

2011-12-09 Thread Allan McRae
On 10/12/11 08:12, Philipp Überbacher wrote: > Excerpts from Allan McRae's message of 2011-12-09 23:04:54 +0100: >> On 10/12/11 07:29, Ionut Biru wrote: >>> On 12/09/2011 09:25 PM, Philipp wrote: Hi there, I have linking issues with one of the programs I maintain in AUR and I don't q

Re: [arch-general] Linking issue, glibc weirdness?

2011-12-09 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Allan McRae's message of 2011-12-09 23:04:54 +0100: > On 10/12/11 07:29, Ionut Biru wrote: > > On 12/09/2011 09:25 PM, Philipp wrote: > >> Hi there, > >> I have linking issues with one of the programs I maintain in AUR and I > >> don't quite understand the issue. Here's the output: >

Re: [arch-general] Linking issue, glibc weirdness?

2011-12-09 Thread Allan McRae
On 10/12/11 07:29, Ionut Biru wrote: > On 12/09/2011 09:25 PM, Philipp wrote: >> Hi there, >> I have linking issues with one of the programs I maintain in AUR and I >> don't quite understand the issue. Here's the output: >> >> g++ -Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro,--hash-style=gnu >> -L/us

Re: [arch-general] Linking issue, glibc weirdness?

2011-12-09 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Ionut Biru's message of 2011-12-09 22:29:48 +0100: > On 12/09/2011 09:25 PM, Philipp wrote: > > Hi there, > > I have linking issues with one of the programs I maintain in AUR and I > > don't quite understand the issue. Here's the output: > > > > g++ -Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,

Re: [arch-general] Linking issue, glibc weirdness?

2011-12-09 Thread Ionut Biru
On 12/09/2011 09:25 PM, Philipp wrote: > Hi there, > I have linking issues with one of the programs I maintain in AUR and I > don't quite understand the issue. Here's the output: > > g++ -Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro,--hash-style=gnu > -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o jmeters jmeters.o styles.o ma

Re: [arch-general] Linking issue, glibc weirdness?

2011-12-09 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Fons Adriaensen's message of 2011-12-09 22:01:09 +0100: > On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 08:25:51PM +0100, Philipp wrote: > > > g++ -Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro,--hash-style=gnu > > -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o jmeters jmeters.o styles.o mainwin.o jclient.o > > mkimage.o meterwin.o -l

Re: [arch-general] Linking issue, glibc weirdness?

2011-12-09 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 08:25:51PM +0100, Philipp wrote: > g++ -Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro,--hash-style=gnu > -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o jmeters jmeters.o styles.o mainwin.o jclient.o > mkimage.o meterwin.o -lsndfile -lclxclient -lclthreads -ljack -lpng > -lXft -lX11 -lrt > /usr/bin/ld: j

Re: [arch-general] Daemon Locale

2011-12-09 Thread Yclept Nemo
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Yclept Nemo wrote: > I want to create a new postgresql database cluster with UTF-8 locale > and default (template) encoding. While initdb, run by rc.d/postgresql, > inherits the locale from the environment, rc.d/functions overrides the > locale to C as specified b

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-09 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 12/08/2011 05:23 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: KDE3 had no comeback Actually, it did. (http://www.trinitydesktop.org/about.php) It just hasn't really gained too much critical mass. (Yet?) DR

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-09 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 12/09/2011 07:45 AM, Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana wrote: But IMHO XFCE misses some neat features like a decent power manager. Just curious - what's your issue with the XFCE power manager? It's fairly minimal (which is not a bad thing, IMO) and always worked fine for me. DR

Re: [arch-general] Install Arch in stages?

2011-12-09 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:22:09 +0100 clemens fischer wrote: > Grant McDuling wrote: > > > Hi, I am new to Arch, being a Mint user until now. I have the iso on > > CD now and ready to install. Can I do this is stages or is it best to > > do the complete basic install in one sitting? > > Regarding

[arch-general] Arch forum and wiki down

2011-12-09 Thread Karol Blazewicz
I've e-mailed Pierre, Ioni and Florian. Hopefully things will get fixed soon.

Re: [arch-general] getaddrinfo

2011-12-09 Thread clemens fischer
Myra Nelson wrote: > After some more searching, work, and this email from the libc help > list [ http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-help/2011-12/msg0.html > ] , I've attempted the code from Ulrich Dreppers page at > http://www.akkadia.org/drepper/userapi-ipv6.html . The newer version > of the code

Re: [arch-general] getaddrinfo

2011-12-09 Thread clemens fischer
Myra Nelson wrote: > I have a static ip address set up in rc.conf and my internet > connections work, ftp clients work, ip addrlabel produces > > prefix ::1/128 label 0 > prefix :::0.0.0.0/96 label 4 > prefix ::/96 label 3 > prefix 2001::/32 label 7 > prefix 2002::/16 label 2 > prefix fec0::/1

Re: [arch-general] Install Arch in stages?

2011-12-09 Thread clemens fischer
Grant McDuling wrote: > Hi, I am new to Arch, being a Mint user until now. I have the iso on > CD now and ready to install. Can I do this is stages or is it best to > do the complete basic install in one sitting? Regarding disk partitioning: Arch wants to have /usr on the same partition as "/" (

[arch-general] Linking issue, glibc weirdness?

2011-12-09 Thread Philipp
Hi there, I have linking issues with one of the programs I maintain in AUR and I don't quite understand the issue. Here's the output: g++ -Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro,--hash-style=gnu -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o jmeters jmeters.o styles.o mainwin.o jclient.o mkimage.o meterwin.o -lsndfile -l

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux, xfce is the way in?

2011-12-09 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 14:20:39 +0100 Jelle van der Waa wrote: >> I don't like BSD, especially for modern environments. Linux has a more >> modern architecture; I love the system, but i must admit that in 2011 it >> isn't efficient anymore. (And BSD has troubles with drivers :( ) >> > Can't we dis

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux, xfce is the way in?

2011-12-09 Thread Jelle van der Waa
On 09/12/11 14:16, Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana wrote: > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi < > lenzi.ser...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I will be testing xfce this week on a fresh generated FreeBSD 9.0 >> > > I don't like BSD, especially for modern environments. Linux has a m

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux, xfce is the way in?

2011-12-09 Thread Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi < lenzi.ser...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I will be testing xfce this week on a fresh generated FreeBSD 9.0 > I don't like BSD, especially for modern environments. Linux has a more modern architecture; I love the system, but i must admit that

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-09 Thread Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Fri, 9 Dec 2011 12:54:30 +0100 > schrieb "Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana" : I hope this will not happen. I never liked Gnome for a lot of reasons, > and KDE4 and the fact that Xfce is so different from Gnome was the > reason for switching t

[arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux, xfce is the way in?

2011-12-09 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
Em Sex, 2011-12-09 às 12:54 +0100, Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana escreveu: > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > > > Will that effect xfce-gnome compatibility? > > > > I believe so. > But XFCE developers will fix that in time for the next release; I believe > they're waiting

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-09 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 9 Dec 2011 12:54:30 +0100 schrieb "Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana" : > By the way, XFCE 4.10 will hopefully include some neat features from > GNOME 2.3x aiming to be a successor and a safe choice for GNOME 2.x > refugees. Just previsions :) I hope this will not happen. I never liked Gnome f

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-09 Thread Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > Will that effect xfce-gnome compatibility? > I believe so. But XFCE developers will fix that in time for the next release; I believe they're waiting for this right now to be ready to patch softwares in the last chunk of development cycle f

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-09 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 08:52:51 +0100 fredbezies wrote: > Gnome 2 is a dead end on technology side. Main programs will sooner or > later move to gtk3. Will that effect xfce-gnome compatibility? Kc

Re: [arch-general] OT: end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-09 Thread Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Do I have the better arguments or is it, that I'm the king of clowns aka > the completely idiot ;)? I agree with your mail, but I laughed reading that conclusion :P Double win? ;) Salud, Bl@ster / dottorblaster

[arch-general] OT: end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
-Original Message- From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana Sent: Fri 12/9/2011 11:02 To: General Discussion about Arch Linux Subject: Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux... On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Ralf Mardorf

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-09 Thread Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > 0.02€, > > Ralf > You won man. :D Salud, Bl@ster

Re: [arch-general] Pacman 4.0.x on core ? When ? :)

2011-12-09 Thread fredbezies
2011/12/9 Jelle van der Waa : > On 09/12/11 10:13, fredbezies wrote: >> Hello. >> >> I'm using pacman 4.0.x since its release on testing and it is really a >> great version. Any tips or infos for a date of its release on core >> repository ? >> >> Thanks :) >> > When it's ready! > > So that might b

Re: [arch-general] Pacman 4.0.x on core ? When ? :)

2011-12-09 Thread Jelle van der Waa
On 09/12/11 10:13, fredbezies wrote: > Hello. > > I'm using pacman 4.0.x since its release on testing and it is really a > great version. Any tips or infos for a date of its release on core > repository ? > > Thanks :) > When it's ready! So that might be 4.0.2 -- Jelle van der Waa signatur

[arch-general] Pacman 4.0.x on core ? When ? :)

2011-12-09 Thread fredbezies
Hello. I'm using pacman 4.0.x since its release on testing and it is really a great version. Any tips or infos for a date of its release on core repository ? Thanks :) -- Frederic Bezies fredbez...@gmail.com

Re: [arch-general] myhost login

2011-12-09 Thread Jelle van der Waa
On 09/12/11 06:50, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > -Original Message- > From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Koen Wilde > Sent: Fri 12/9/2011 02:13 > To: Grant McDuling; General Discussion about Arch Linux > Subject: Re: [arch-general] myhost login > > Hey Grant, > > The username

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
-Original Message- From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of fredbezies Sent: Fri 12/9/2011 08:52 If you have a nvidia chipset, you can use nouveau driver with gnome 3. +++ Unfortunately a lot of people can't use nouveau for audio productions. For my 7200 GS this driver comp