Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-26 Thread Andreas Radke
Am Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:33:56 +0200 schrieb Andreas Radke : > 2.6.27.31-2 is up for both arches and _should_ fully support ext4 > filesystem. So far I couldn't reboot my ext4 system, because it's busy > with uploading other stuff for some hours. > > Though I don't expect any trouble try it only wi

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-26 Thread Attila
At Mittwoch 26 August 2009 20:46 David C. Rankin wrote: > Now where in the arch boot process could I put a script that > basically says > if uname -r is the lts kernel switch to nv and vice-versa? /etc/rc.local: if [ $(uname -r) = "2.6.27-lts" ]; then # do what you need to use nv fi

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-26 Thread Daenyth Blank
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 15:00, Daenyth Blank wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 14:46, David C. > Rankin wrote: >>        Now where in the arch boot process could I put a script that >> basically says >> if uname -r is the lts kernel switch to nv and vice-versa? >> > Nowhere. Since when do we modify

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-26 Thread Daenyth Blank
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 14:46, David C. Rankin wrote: >        Now where in the arch boot process could I put a script that basically > says > if uname -r is the lts kernel switch to nv and vice-versa? > Nowhere. Since when do we modify user config files in this manner? Making something robust wou

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-26 Thread David C. Rankin
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 12:49:25 pm Xavier wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 7:46 PM, David C. > > Rankin wrote: > >If the nvidia driver is too much of a pain to maintain, the how > > about the nv driver. That way all you would have to do is modify your > > xorg.conf and change "nvidia"

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-26 Thread Andreas Radke
2.6.27.31-2 is up for both arches and _should_ fully support ext4 filesystem. So far I couldn't reboot my ext4 system, because it's busy with uploading other stuff for some hours. Though I don't expect any trouble try it only with non critical ext4 root filesystem partitions. You've been warned.

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-26 Thread Xavier
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 7:46 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: > >        If the nvidia driver is too much of a pain to maintain, the how about > the nv > driver. That way all you would have to do is modify your xorg.conf and change > "nvidia" to "nv" and restart X if you wanted a gui on the lts kernel.

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-26 Thread David C. Rankin
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 10:53:56 am Roman Kyrylych wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 18:29, Aaron Griffin wrote: > > I half-way agree. The issue is that, no matter what you _intend_ with > > something, people will always do something you don't expect. It's part > > of the reason you see warnings

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-26 Thread David C. Rankin
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 02:54:50 am Thomas Bächler wrote: > David C. Rankin schrieb: > > How do you handle the situation where you are running the nvidia > > driver on > > > the normal kernel and then boot to the lts kernel? The kernel boots fine, > > but X is dead, presumably because the

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-26 Thread Roman Kyrylych
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 18:29, Aaron Griffin wrote: > I half-way agree. The issue is that, no matter what you _intend_ with > something, people will always do something you don't expect. It's part > of the reason you see warnings like "Do not put in nose" on a package > for an electric toothbrush :

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-26 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 10:29 -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote: > I half-way agree. The issue is that, no matter what you _intend_ with > something, people will always do something you don't expect. It's part > of the reason you see warnings like "Do not put in nose" on a package > for an electric toothbru

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-26 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:25 AM, David Rosenstrauch wrote: > On 08/26/2009 02:23 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: >> >> Andreas, >> >>        How do you handle the situation where you are running the nvidia >> driver on the normal kernel and then boot to the lts kernel? The kernel >> boots fine, but X i

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-26 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 08/26/2009 02:23 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: Andreas, How do you handle the situation where you are running the nvidia driver on the normal kernel and then boot to the lts kernel? The kernel boots fine, but X is dead, presumably because the nvidia driver isn't compiled against that kernel

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-26 Thread Xavier
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Andreas Radke wrote: > 2) a fallback kernel für almost everybody: a long requested feature. > Everybody can install it along the core "kernel26" pkg and add > lilo/grub entries for the "lts" kernel. Whenever an update of a future > kernel26 will fail you won't be fo

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-26 Thread Roman Kyrylych
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:05, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Am Mittwoch 26 August 2009 09:54:50 schrieb Thomas Bächler: >> You don't. It's a kernel meant for servers, there won't be any module >> packages for it. A machine that needs the nvidia driver is not a server. > > Maybe the kernel should be rena

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-26 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Mittwoch 26 August 2009 09:54:50 schrieb Thomas Bächler: > You don't. It's a kernel meant for servers, there won't be any module > packages for it. A machine that needs the nvidia driver is not a server. Maybe the kernel should be renamed to -server then. -lts is a little confusing here. --

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-26 Thread Milos Negovanovic
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 01:34:32AM +0200, Andreas Radke wrote: > Today I've added a 2nd kernel to our svn called "kernel26-lts". It > should help to make you less caring about kernel updates. The intention > is to Does this kernel have PAE support compiled in? Regards Milos

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-26 Thread Thomas Bächler
David C. Rankin schrieb: > How do you handle the situation where you are running the nvidia driver on the normal kernel and then boot to the lts kernel? The kernel boots fine, but X is dead, presumably because the nvidia driver isn't compiled against that kernel and laughs when you tell it to

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-25 Thread David C. Rankin
On Tuesday 25 August 2009 05:15:54 pm Andreas Radke wrote: > Am Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:34:32 +0200 > > schrieb Andreas Radke : > > I will upload packages for both architectures to testing over the next > > days. Please discuss when you want see changes to the config file > > (x86_64 is done, i686 is

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-25 Thread Andreas Radke
Am Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:34:32 +0200 schrieb Andreas Radke : > I will upload packages for both architectures to testing over the next > days. Please discuss when you want see changes to the config file > (x86_64 is done, i686 is not ready so far). > > -Andy > i686 is now also done and ready for

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-25 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 08/25/2009 09:34 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: On Monday 24 August 2009 06:34:32 pm Andreas Radke wrote: Today I've added a 2nd kernel to our svn called "kernel26-lts". It should help to make you less caring about kernel updates. The intention is to 1) have a 2nd choice for the kernel pkg that

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-25 Thread David C. Rankin
On Monday 24 August 2009 06:34:32 pm Andreas Radke wrote: > Today I've added a 2nd kernel to our svn called "kernel26-lts". It > should help to make you less caring about kernel updates. The intention > is to > > 1) have a 2nd choice for the kernel pkg that suits better in > certain situations an

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-25 Thread RedShift
Andreas Radke wrote: Today I've added a 2nd kernel to our svn called "kernel26-lts". It should help to make you less caring about kernel updates. The intention is to 1) have a 2nd choice for the kernel pkg that suits better in certain situations and 2) it can be a fallback when a reboot aft

[arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-24 Thread Andreas Radke
Today I've added a 2nd kernel to our svn called "kernel26-lts". It should help to make you less caring about kernel updates. The intention is to 1) have a 2nd choice for the kernel pkg that suits better in certain situations and 2) it can be a fallback when a reboot after updating the core "ker