Re: [ARTIQ] uTCA backplane driver choices

2016-07-05 Thread Grzegorz Kasprowicz
Hi The SATA type connector was installed as an option to route GTX normally routed to AMC. Selection is by coupling capacitors placement. The AMC-SFP adapter is another, better option. As I wrote before, my colleague designs such thing for another project and we can use it. Greg On 5 July 2016 at

Re: [ARTIQ] uTCA backplane driver choices

2016-07-05 Thread Sébastien Bourdeauducq
On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 04:00 PM, Grzegorz Kasprowicz wrote: For Sayma board to not waste precious GTX we will add PHY with 1000Base-X. We can also route it to SATA connector and provide dedicated SATA-SFP cables. Most of these PHYs apart from RGMII to 1000base-X offer 1000base-T, so we can als

Re: [ARTIQ] uTCA backplane driver choices

2016-06-29 Thread Grzegorz Kasprowicz
we can use Si instead of CDCM61004RHBT Greg On 29 June 2016 at 04:56, Sébastien Bourdeauducq wrote: > On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 04:02 PM, Grzegorz Kasprowicz wrote: > >> For synchronisation over fibre we can use existing White Rabbit core. >> The card requires only 2 VCXO oscillators and FPGA lo

Re: [ARTIQ] uTCA backplane driver choices

2016-06-28 Thread Sébastien Bourdeauducq
On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 04:02 PM, Grzegorz Kasprowicz wrote: For synchronisation over fibre we can use existing White Rabbit core. The card requires only 2 VCXO oscillators and FPGA logic. The WR core consumes 50% of small Spartan 45T. It ensures 1ns timing accuracy. We probably won't use Whi

Re: [ARTIQ] uTCA backplane driver choices

2016-06-28 Thread Grzegorz Kasprowicz
abs.hk; Greg > Kasprowicz > > ; Slichter, Daniel H. (Fed) < > daniel.slich...@nist.gov> > > Subject: Re: [ARTIQ] uTCA backplane driver choices > > > > On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 04:47 AM, j arl wrote: > > > Use standard RGMII to SERDES chip for Port 0 an

Re: [ARTIQ] uTCA backplane driver choices

2016-06-28 Thread Grzegorz Kasprowicz
For synchronisation over fibre we can use existing White Rabbit core. The card requires only 2 VCXO oscillators and FPGA logic. The WR core consumes 50% of small Spartan 45T. It ensures 1ns timing accuracy. On 24 June 2016 at 20:39, Slichter, Daniel H. (Fed) < daniel.slich...@nist.gov> wrote: > >

Re: [ARTIQ] uTCA backplane driver choices

2016-06-24 Thread Slichter, Daniel H. (Fed)
> On Thursday, June 23, 2016 11:09 PM, Slichter, Daniel H. (Fed) wrote: > > One question raised by David Allcock is whether the Sayma cards can be > > run standalone (e.g. in a smaller crate on table with no Metlino). > > It would definitely be useful for the Sayma cards to have the > > necessary c

Re: [ARTIQ] uTCA backplane driver choices

2016-06-23 Thread Sébastien Bourdeauducq
On Thursday, June 23, 2016 11:09 PM, Slichter, Daniel H. (Fed) wrote: One question raised by David Allcock is whether the Sayma cards can be run standalone (e.g. in a smaller crate on table with no Metlino). It would definitely be useful for the Sayma cards to have the necessary connectivity (e.g

Re: [ARTIQ] uTCA backplane driver choices

2016-06-23 Thread Sébastien Bourdeauducq
On Thursday, June 23, 2016 09:43 PM, j arl wrote: Ethernet is not required on the Sayma cards. DRTIO is the first-choice for interfacing with Sayma cards. Supporting Ethernet on Port 0 provides risk mitigation for DRTIO It is unlikely that Ethernet would work but not the transceiver link

Re: [ARTIQ] uTCA backplane driver choices

2016-06-23 Thread Slichter, Daniel H. (Fed)
10:28 PM > To: j arl ; artiq@lists.m-labs.hk; Greg Kasprowicz > ; Slichter, Daniel H. (Fed) > Subject: Re: [ARTIQ] uTCA backplane driver choices > > On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 04:47 AM, j arl wrote: > > Use standard RGMII to SERDES chip for Port 0 and Port 1 which works > >

Re: [ARTIQ] uTCA backplane driver choices

2016-06-23 Thread j arl
> > > Ethernet is not required on the Sayma cards. DRTIO is the first-choice for interfacing with Sayma cards. Supporting Ethernet on Port 0 provides risk mitigation for DRTIO and an alternate interface for stand-alone operation of Sayma. > Use standard RGMII to SERDES chip for Port 0 and Port 1

Re: [ARTIQ] uTCA backplane driver choices

2016-06-22 Thread Sébastien Bourdeauducq
On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 04:47 AM, j arl wrote: Use standard RGMII to SERDES chip for Port 0 and Port 1 which works with open source Ethernet MAC. For example Micrel KSZ9021. Ethernet is not required on the Sayma cards. It would add a relatively small amount of cruft, except that you now ne

[ARTIQ] uTCA backplane driver choices

2016-06-21 Thread j arl
What differential logic is best for for the uTCA backplane? This impacts the Ports that connect the MCH to AMC boards. The relevant uTCA Ports are the following. Port 0 and Port 1 for Gbit Ethernet Port 4 for 10.3125 Gb/s GTX transceiver Ports 5-7 for general purpose I/O TCLKA, TCLKB and TCLKC for

Re: [ARTIQ] uTCA backplane driver choices

2016-06-21 Thread Slichter, Daniel H. (Fed)
I tend to go with Greg here; I think the edges on LVDS are just not as sharp as you would like for clock distribution, and for the GTX transceiver you will want whatever is most compatible (I don't have experience here). CML or LVPECL would be the way to go for the others. > -Original Me