[AsburyPark] Re: Loffredo Speaks - From both sides!

2005-01-06 Thread dfsavgny
-jj don't forget that fishman gets 7% of the sales too, that's in addition to the land purchase price. -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "jerseyjohn99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Plus, it's pretty hard to cry poverty when you take 1/5th of the > land you bought for $8.5 million & flip i

[AsburyPark] Re: Loffredo Speaks - From both sides!

2005-01-06 Thread jerseyjohn99
Plus, it's pretty hard to cry poverty when you take 1/5th of the land you bought for $8.5 million & flip it for $6 million. I doubt that $5.3 million profit was factored into the expense statement either. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "jerseyjohn99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not t

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New C8 design

2005-01-06 Thread charlie leonard
oh.  it looks good to me, the c8 building that is.  the site looks good, with all the concrete chipped off.  the plan calls for ground floor stores along ocean ave, but i dont see how thats possiable.  if the bottom 3 floors of c8 are parking garages? Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo

[AsburyPark] New C8 design

2005-01-06 Thread jerseyjohn99
Is it just me, or does the new design for the C8 building look like the Showboat Casino in Atlantic City? Showboat: http://www.pictureac.com/photos/showboat.jpg C8: http://www.app.com/images/news/0501/06asbury1.jpg Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http:

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Loffredo Speaks in APP (reprint of Coaster Editorial)

2005-01-06 Thread JWKeady
In a message dated 1/5/2005 8:08:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know when Asbury Partners must have all these improvements completed? I hope there are deadlines. What's the recourse if they don't meet the deadlines? Who, if anyone, will authorize/approve th

[AsburyPark] Re: New C8 design

2005-01-06 Thread jerseyjohn99
Yeah, the angle/wavy look coupled with the straight edges of the Taj Mahal. Maybe that's why I was never an architect! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > haha, i think its just you. thats just my thinking though. they look pretty opposite look

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: asbury park - fishman

2005-01-06 Thread charlie leonard
muff - thats pretty much the kind of things i thought youd say.  what were you saying about me, making the same comments for the last 4 years or so?  i dont really remember talking about any of the things you said.  i also always said, im not on either side, but i can understand how both sides

[AsburyPark] Re: asbury park - fish man

2005-01-06 Thread jerseyjohn99
Well, heck. Let's just knock down Old Man Bradley's statue & erect one to Fishman then. Unfortunately "the city" did make those deals. However, they should be acting as fiduciaries & caretakers of the City for the residents, merchants, and customers of the City of Asbury Park. And we can go

[AsburyPark] Re: asbury park - fishman

2005-01-06 Thread oakdorf
then there's the story of some engineers that were so flabbergasted one time after a meeting, sitting in a coffee shop on the boardwalk - told this guy that they paid "contributions" before to cities and towns etc...but never, never were they flat told that will be 100k for me, and 50k for al

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: asbury park - fishman

2005-01-06 Thread muffolettom
That some 20 developers tried to get into Asbury and only corruption kept them out. That Terry Weldon is a crook and he orchestrated the sale of the tax liens to one entity - Sass/Fishman. That people work to preserve buildings because ordinary developers always build something worse. That t

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: asbury park - fishman

2005-01-06 Thread charlie leonard
muff - what?  what facts dont i see? Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Your us

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: asbury park - fishman

2005-01-06 Thread charlie leonard
thats true, but the city made the deals they did.  they know what they have to work with.  and they seem fine with it. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark

[AsburyPark] Asbury Warehouse Space for Lease

2005-01-06 Thread oakdorf
FYI: We are offering warehouse space @ 1001 2nd Ave (Vaccaros former warehouse) @ $6.50 per sq ft. email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call me in the office - 732-935-9870 Thank you. David Dorfman Capital Real Estate Brokerage LLC 28 Eaton Rd Eatontown, NJ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Loffredo Speaks - From both sides!

2005-01-06 Thread charlie leonard
"then build the gazebos before the summer, complete the meandering boardwalk (that would go to their new condos...)" i wouldnt count on them doing that.  their waiting untill they get some condos up and operational first. which makes sence, in a way.  just like the "busy work" renovatoins they

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Loffredo Speaks in APP (reprint of Coaster Editorial)

2005-01-06 Thread Allan Peterson
I too have recently bought a home in asbury.  There is a home owners association?  Where can I get more infor on this?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jacky I ask John Loffredo at the public portion of the council meeting tonight to write another about the dead lines and how they may be enforced. Joh

[AsburyPark] Re: Loffredo Speaks - From both sides!

2005-01-06 Thread jerseyjohn99
Not to mention the few thousand dollars found in the suit pockets of a former City Manager. Let's see. $8.5 million for the redevelopment rights. $5 million for the Boardwalk. A few million for the Stone Pony. a couple hundred dollars for the palm trees at the Convention Hall bar. a couple h

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: asbury park - fishman

2005-01-06 Thread muffolettom
Dan: Charlie has made those same arguments for 4 years. They've been refuted a thousand times. JerseyJohn did an accounting of all the developers that have tried to get in here. It's quite a number. Unfortunately despite all the facts that make those same arguments untenable, Charlie and t

[AsburyPark] homeowner association

2005-01-06 Thread dankaplan
Allan, Here is a link to the homeowner's association: http://www.aphomeowners.org/ I intend to join after I move into the home I'm purchasing. Dan > -Original Message- > From: Allan Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2005 04:49 PM > To: AsburyPark@yahoogro

[AsburyPark] asbury park - fishman

2005-01-06 Thread charlie leonard
i think the reason the city is being so nice to the fishmans, is beasue thats all they have.  they have a group of people who are willing to work with them, and get something done.  something that hasnt been done for 30 years.  the way it looks to me, the city doesnt want to casue any problems,

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Loffredo Speaks - From both sides!

2005-01-06 Thread charlie leonard
"All payments made to date have been made late, with no penalties imposed.  Also, I would very much like to see the receipts, an independent audit or at least a spread sheet on the $30 million they claim to have spent.   Peace, Jim Keady "   that might be interesting to see, but im sure its a

Re: [AsburyPark] Published in Today's APP

2005-01-06 Thread JWKeady
In a message dated 1/6/2005 2:32:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The town government has the responsibility to represent and inform the residents.  I have seen many positive things happening in this city but I do worry at times when I read posts on here. Thank you for y

[AsburyPark] Re: Tonight on Restore by the Shore -

2005-01-06 Thread dfsavgny
I can hardly wait. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Click here: Restore by the Shore - Home - > > Brand new Asbury Park Councilmember Ed Johnson stops by Restore Radio for a > quick chat with guest cohost Frank D'Allesandro and myself. > Update on latest on Metr

[AsburyPark] Tonight on Restore by the Shore -

2005-01-06 Thread restore881FM
Click here: Restore by the Shore - Home -   Brand new Asbury Park Councilmember Ed Johnson stops by Restore Radio for a quick chat with guest cohost Frank D'Allesandro and myself. Update on latest on Metro Home's design for the C-8 building - pictured in today's APP, update on investor lawsu

Re: [AsburyPark] Published in Today's APP

2005-01-06 Thread Allan Peterson
Congrats on your well written letter making the press.  While I am new to this town and this board, it seems to me that these questions have been around for a while, and if as the councilman says is true, could be easily answered.  The town government has the responsibility to represent and in

[AsburyPark] Re: Loffredo Speaks - From both sides!

2005-01-06 Thread oakdorf
then build the gazebos before the summer, complete the "meandering" boardwalk (that would go to their new condos...) As far the "affordable" housing $ goes - I asked that as well - account for ALL, as in all, the $ the city has received from AP partners and from other towns that dumped their

[AsburyPark] Published in Today's APP

2005-01-06 Thread JWKeady
Viewpoint: Asbury shouldn't be shortchanged on oceanfront Published in the Asbury Park Press 1/06/05 John Loffredo's Jan. 4 commentary "$400,000 land sale bringing much more to Asbury" is par for the course for Loffredo, an Asbury Park councilman. His flawed explanation of the land grab that

RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Loffredo Speaks - From both sides!

2005-01-06 Thread Tyler, Mark
Even if they have paid $30million to date at the time the beachfront was probably worth much more.  As I said in a post in 2001 property north and south of Asbury on the ocean was selling for $1,000 per sq. ft.  I believe just the intial transfer to Asbury Partners was 120,000 square feet

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Loffredo Speaks - From both sides!

2005-01-06 Thread JWKeady
In a message dated 1/5/2005 9:39:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "In keeping with its commitment to support affordable housing and community initiatives in Asbury Park, New Jersey, Asbury Partners, LLC presented the City Council on November 5 with a $750,000 check, repr

RE: [AsburyPark] Response to Loffredo

2005-01-06 Thread Tyler, Mark
Title: RE: [AsburyPark] Response to Loffredo Excellent Dan.  Do you mind if I post it on the blog for Gay and lesbian Homeowners?  Jim Keady and I wrote a similar response which we sent to Asbury Park Press and The Coaster.  -Original Message- From: dfsavgny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

[AsburyPark] Response to Loffredo

2005-01-06 Thread dfsavgny
I am responding to Loffredo's editorial by sending in the op-ed below to APP. I have asked APP for two days how to do this and habe not recieved a response. In fact, two of my emails were deleted by the editor without being read (that's what the receipt said). I don't know if they will print