Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1108

2005-01-08 Thread charlie leonard
the parts of the waterfront plan, that are not liked, should be looked at.  something should be done.  get something solid together, and try to change it.  DONT wait untill their about to start work on something, to say "hey i dont like it"  beasue at that point, it might be too late, and you w

[AsburyPark] Video of Triangle vote up now

2005-01-08 Thread restore881FM
Three video clips of the Dec 15th council meeting, at which the Triangle ordinance was passed, is up on the net now. The link is on the home page. www.restoreradio.com. AOL doesn't refresh often, so if you don't see the link, please use internet explorer to call up the site. Or go directly to

[AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1108

2005-01-08 Thread jerseyjohn99
Chuck: one of the problems with that is the "crowding out" effect of parking. Each condo/townhouse is given 1.5 spaces for parking: 1 inside & .5 outside. This means you have 1550 spaces around the City allotted to residents. I have no idea how many spaces are on the oceanfront, but when the

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Loffredo Response - justification -BONUS of $36.5 million

2005-01-08 Thread muffolettom
Well we should move to enforce the contractual obligation quickly. Time is of the essence here. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1108

2005-01-08 Thread charlie leonard
hey now, dont knock seaside.  i had a great summer last year -grins-.  but i have an understanding of what you might consider bad about the place.  i dont think the fishmans ever said 100% of the boadwalk would be year round retail.  i think he said there would be some seasonal places too, arou

[AsburyPark] Re: Loffredo Response - justification -BONUS of $36.5 million

2005-01-08 Thread jerseyjohn99
All this talk about the Casino reminds me of the emergency Historical Society meeting the night before the 6am destruction of the Palace. Does everyone remember Kate's prophetic warning against "antagonizing the developer" if we wanted to save the rest of Asbury's treasures? I wonder how lon

[AsburyPark] Re: Loffredo Response - justification -BONUS of $36.5 million

2005-01-08 Thread SkipDragon
"Its my understanding someone asked again at the last meeting and found out that certain additions to the letter of credit had to be included and the long and short of it we have nothing, no letter of credit." Dan, After a lengthy explanation of "the above contractual commitments to the sal

[AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1108

2005-01-08 Thread dfsavgny
The 421a is new construction, the J51 is rehab, but you're right. Chuck, the indoor retail is what I was referring to, it is not going work. Everything is indoor retail unless you're talking about a food stand. It will work in the summer but not the off season. Thus, you will never get anybod

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1108

2005-01-08 Thread muffolettom
I don't know what the Council was thinking. They certainly aren't getting good advice from their paid professional help and the problems were brought to their attention. Dan your right about the exemptions - the max is 10 years and even that length usually means that the developer had to put

[AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1108

2005-01-08 Thread dfsavgny
Or like our 421a certidficates in NYC which you get for building affordable housing. Mark, what do they last 10 years? It must be on a declining basis though, I forget. What I meant to say before is that you let the developer build extra density in certain areas in return for things like rest

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1108

2005-01-08 Thread muffolettom
I guess you're asking Ben about my post on the tax abatement. I promise to track down and confirm the basics of the abatement. I just want to be clear that the worst thing about the abatement is the number of years it lasts. A 16 year tax abatement is meant as a reward. For example, buildin

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1108

2005-01-08 Thread muffolettom
If only you were in charge Dan - great vision. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://d

[AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1108

2005-01-08 Thread dfsavgny
Ben I don't have a problem with the waterfront being developed with some condos. For instance, Wesley Grove, North Beach and C-8 and the other infill spots as long as the density is kept reasonable. As for the waterfront/boardwalk itself, I agree, let's forget this Disney World/Times Square

[AsburyPark] Re: fishman - the tax abatement & Fatal Flaws

2005-01-08 Thread SkipDragon
Fatal Flaws This deal was doomed from the outset. This didn't have to be, but is, being primarily product of the ignorance of its architects; the deal's architects Terry Weldon and the Fishmans who were so successful in their sole pursuit of maximizing equity on their buy that they've neglect

[AsburyPark] Re: Loffredo Response

2005-01-08 Thread dfsavgny
I emailed it because that is what they told me they preferred. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/8/05 9:29 AM, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Well I've lost hope that APP will print my response, since they got > > it Thursday and

Re: [AsburyPark] Loffredo Response

2005-01-08 Thread Lighty
On 1/8/05 9:29 AM, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well I've lost hope that APP will print my response, since they got > it Thursday and it's not in yet. I guess they had too many stories > in the Triangle. > I hope you mailed or faxed it. The only times I've ever had stuff publ

[AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1108

2005-01-08 Thread terry12622000
Ben, do you think it would help Asbury Park if the property tax was just on the value of land and not on improvements?--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dear Neighbors: > > I would like to offer the following: > > 1. Let's not forget that Terry Weldon negotiated th

[AsburyPark] Loffredo Response

2005-01-08 Thread dfsavgny
Well I've lost hope that APP will print my response, since they got it Thursday and it's not in yet. I guess they had too many stories in the Triangle. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from