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> A: Religion, Politics, & Sex
> Q: What are three things you should never discuss in polite company?
>
> Seems you guys covered all three in a single post!
and I would add...
"we did it in a polite manner."
Peace unto
A: Religion, Politics, & Sex
Q: What are three things you should never discuss in polite company?
Seems you guys covered all three in a single post!
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> However I am not new at these things.
Would it matter if I were new to these things? Would it matter if I
were more experienced than you to these things? I say no to both.
Numbers are numbers, and neither of us have them. The difference is
I'm not supplying assumed ones - you are.
ButI
Analysis is speculation, thats a given.
However I am not new at these things.
Its not scientific, never said it was.
I am a theologian, and a professional Bloviator.
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However, there is a way to test this theory.
Cote got 200 votes. You canvas those 200 people and ask them
>
> It must be some divine power that you have that you can discern
how anyone voted. Please explain that last sentence. ~joe
This one is easy. Now that you revealed actually how little you
know abou tthe process, it will be my last response on this issue to
you.
First - you get the names of
Who is Rev Kev? Sorry I'm a newbie here. I just got home from college and
I live with my brother here. There doesn't seem that much to do here.
Deirdre
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You can't use a "general law of statistics" as an indisputable fact,
Rev. You are no more certain that a vote for Murray, or Singh, or
Otes or Anderson would not have gone to Sanders, etc. than I am
certain it would have. There is no way of knowing, and worse yet no
fact from which to draw an
Oh the "gay long branch" thing... why would anyone have to leave
long branch because they're gay? Makes me think RevKev has some
personal axe to grind throwing that one in.
I never said that was the reason he left Long Branch.
Unfortunately your are looking more closely at the Gay thing, and
n
At 2:18 AM + 5/13/05, noblarneyzone wrote:
>Being gay is not what troubles me.
>
>It's being corrupt that troubles me...
>
>Again..
>
>"Christ died for sinners (the corrupt) - and I am just as needy of His
>Grace as the next man."
>
>and more facts are pouring in as we speak...
>those that are
Are you familar with the law of general statistics associated with
voter opposition to incumbents...
They generally vote for anyone who runs against them.
In so noting, every vote would have gone to the challengers in the
trimmed ballot. (10 only names)
The interesting downside to that statist
At 2:10 AM + 5/13/05, dfsavgny wrote:
>
>Well I will give you that the speculation of the votes being paid for
>is just that and not appropriate, but the other analysis was okay.
>
>About the other post about the vote buying with the JOBS person from
>Long Branch. What is upsetting you abouthis
Being gay is not what troubles me.
It's being corrupt that troubles me...
Again..
"Christ died for sinners (the corrupt) - and I am just as needy of His
Grace as the next man."
and more facts are pouring in as we speak...
those that are employed through the per diem work program in asbury
par
Joe:
If you doubt that votes are bought for cash, than you are nieve.
It happens everywhere.
However, your right I should not be remiss as a Man of God...
and in that vain...
allow me to simply say; "God forgive us all for what we do each and
every day, all of us."
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That was only his second sentence. If that's the second sentence it
makes the rest of the 10 paragraph "analysis" crap.
>
> ~joe
Well I will give you that the speculation of the votes being paid for
is just that and no
Let's see if I'm right about your position, Werner.
Assume the carnival here right now has a permit from the City and
liability insurance. Are you in favor of it being here, or not in
favor of it being here? Please - do me the honor of answering this
question, because the answer will prove wh
is bradley park classifyed as a "formal garden"? the
only attention that park has gotten in the last few
years is having its grass cut. it looks nothing like
it should, or for that matter, nothing like it will
look like in the furture.
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At 9:56 PM + 5/12/05, dfsavgny wrote:
>--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> My analysis of your analysis: crap. Leave the numbers to JJ... stick
>to the god stuff, rev. ~Joe
>
>Come on Joey D, play nice, after all you won! What's crap?
Yesterday Reveren
Congratulations on your victory, Jim. We probably don't see eye-to-
eye in all areas of national or international politics, but you are a
man of conscience and principle (I was going to say "conviction" as
well, but that's probably not the right word to use here) who has the
best interests of th
my friend used the wording emminent domain. he also said they were given 90
days to vacate as of may 1
where are all these people supposed to go. and does the state have to
find them new places to live.
what else has this current council given away.
who owns the asbury boardwalk?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i have a friend living in the belmont for many years. the
buildings
were
> taken by emminent domain. the owner has been in court for many
years trying to
> save her buildings. she lost. fishman got his way...as usual
To the best
Were the court cases reported or appealed? If so please let me know
the names of the parties.
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i have a friend living
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The buildings look fine. Are we going to cover every inch with new
construction?
Yes, the entire neighborhood south of Asbury Avenue, west to Grand
Avenue and south to Cookman is slated for taking, demolition, and
condos
i have a friend living in the belmont for many years. the buildings
were taken by emminent domain. the owner has been in court for many years trying
to save her buildings. she lost. fishman got his way...as
usual
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Dan I think you may inadvertantly be assuming an extreme to my
> argument, when in fact it is Werner who is extreme here.
> It is Werner's postion on the other hand, that neither of those
> functions, the carnival or
Why, are there problems from these buildings? Why don't they try to
take the buildings where the drug dealers live? Seems to me there are
mainly seniors there in need of care. The buildings look fine. Are we
going to cover every inch with new construction?
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Let's hope so.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I heard a rumor that the residents got notice yesterday to get out
and
> the buildings are to be demolished. Anybody know wanything about it?
> Nice old buildings.
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I heard a rumor that the residents got notice yesterday to get out and
the buildings are to be demolished. Anybody know wanything about it?
Nice old buildings.
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LOL...NOW do you see why we who voted Bush in 2000 wore T-shirts
calling the "popular vote winner" Sore Loserman?
Mandate, Schmandate. The people have spoken. In a field of 19, with
8387 votes cast, anyone who had less than 441 votes received less than
the amount received if all voters just pic
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My analysis of your analysis: crap. Leave the numbers to JJ... stick
to the god stuff, rev. ~Joe
Come on Joey D, play nice, after all you won! What's crap? I think rev
kev said it plainly, there were more votes against
Post-Election Views- with Ed Johnson, Pam Lam, Jim Keady Tonight!
from those who won and those who lost - and those who voted!!
Did you have trouble finding your polling place? Tell us about it.
Call in and make your opinions known.
What's ahead for the new council? What are your priorities?
My analysis of your analysis: crap. Leave the numbers to JJ... stick to the god
stuff, rev. ~Joe
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
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> Dan I think you may inadvertantly be assuming an extreme to my
> argument, when in fact it is Werner who is extreme here. I don't
> mind a permit for a large scale operation like a carnival that
will
> charge money
Thanks for responding Jim K, and congratulations on your efforts.
Best of luck.
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Dan I think you may inadvertantly be assuming an extreme to my
argument, when in fact it is Werner who is extreme here. I don't
mind a permit for a large scale operation like a carnival that will
charge money for things (so long as the approval process isn't
burdensome). I don't think somethin
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "jerseyjohn99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> I'm with BB on this. Public parks are for public use, whether that
> use is growing dandelions, racing monster trucks, or holding anti-
> globalization rallies. As long as the proper permits/insurance are
> in place &
In a message dated 5/11/2005 9:15:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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Has Jim
K left the message boards?
Not to worry Oakd. I am here. I have just needed a little
bit of time to recover from an exciting, but nonetheless, grueling campaign
run. I need a few more da
BB
You miss the point. Obviously you do not need a permit to play a
causal game of football in a park. All parks, or portions thereof,
are not created equal. Go to any great city park (Central, Prospect)
and certain areas are limited to certain uses. Any organized sport
league playing in a pub
I'm with BB on this. Public parks are for public use, whether that
use is growing dandelions, racing monster trucks, or holding anti-
globalization rallies. As long as the proper permits/insurance are
in place & the city is getting a piece of the action from any money
changing hands, I'd rather
Were always required for any event held. Like holding an event in CH.
Typical requirements were insurance, police/security, clean-up etc.
More importantly was a fee - to cover it all plus.
In the case of CH - there was an event fee/rental fee which was either
flat or included a % of sales PLUS
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Werner et al.
>
> Your remarks here about the parks reminded me of a video I bought
during a
> fundraiser here several years ago. It included scenes of AP from the
30's
I looked at that auction and it is most likely the one, how
Rev Kev: I have reviewed your work below, and note that every
assumption you make is for votes to go away from the incumbants.
You have no way of knowing where votes from some of those candidates
would have gone if they didn't run.
I dig you Rev Kev but there is no scientific usefulness to yo
You're a piece of work!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I would like to make clear that I completely enjoyed the Monster
> Truck ride and I hope they bring it back again this July 4th. Of all
> the attractions that were there that day, it is the on
I would like to make clear that I completely enjoyed the Monster
Truck ride and I hope they bring it back again this July 4th. Of all
the attractions that were there that day, it is the only one I
remember.
When historians look back at us today and research what
the "histirical uses" of the pa
The results, as reported by the City Clerk's office were: Sanders,
952; Johnson, 841; Loffredo, 831; Bruno, 784; Keady, 578; Schneider, 544;
Mellina, 488; Koperweis, 468; Hamilton, 463; Pam Lamberton, 396; Mohinder Singh,
394; Mamie Moore, 270; Harold Suggs, 258; Louise Murray, 207; Cheryl
05/12/05
I agree with Dan; and I think I have the video that you are
interested in. It was done by Mr. Delpizio (remember him?) from
Public Works...
It's at the bar if you anyone wants to see Asbury in full bloom in
the 30's.
Leonard Soriano
ANYBODYS; 108 St. James Place.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Werner et al.
>
> Your remarks here about the parks reminded me of a video I bought
during a
> fundraiser here several years ago. It included scenes of AP from
the 30's or
> 40's, and I particularly remember the parks, lakes, l
I was at a council meeting once where they had to vote to issue a permit to
the Ladies Cotillion (sp?) to have a dance, surely there must be a permit
issued and fee collected to have a carnival in a public park. Insurance held
by the carnival owners would be one of the big concerns.
Greg
Werner et al.
Your remarks here about the parks reminded me of a video I bought during a
fundraiser here several years ago. It included scenes of AP from the 30's
or 40's, and I particularly remember the parks, lakes, landscaping as they
were then. I've looked all over today and can't
>
> Well I am certain he is happy. It is a disingenuous statement since
no
> candidates that I know of wanted to stop the redevelopment. The only
> thing that many wanted to stop was Asbury Partners' continual
> violation of the redevelopment deal and the status quo attitude of
the
> counci
I appears that yahoo will not accept images in email.
I've uploaded them to my photo folder on the yahoo site.
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A few pictures are more effective than this discussion.
I will close with what I said at Council -
'If you don't care, just be honest and say so'
Excerpt from APP on the election.
"The people have given the incumbents a mandate to stay the course and
bring Asbury Park back as the prominent New Jersey shore community,"
Larry Fishman, chief operating officer of the city waterfront
redevelopment company, Asbury Partners, said Wednesday.
"T
Now we're arguing about parks, our public assets and should there be
absolutely no safeguard for them. Come on folks, let's give a
little! Don't read everything as an absolute. I think we can all
agree that certain public areas need to be properly maintained and
perhaps, limited to certain acti
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
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> "Official" stats that are outdated are as useless as "unofficial"
> stats. You were here in 2000 - those states are off, particularly
> property values and income levels. You also can't use bad stats
and
> the excu
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1. for your numbers work
> 2. for in some way - looking at question of state aid - and
wondering
> if at some point in time - if aid will be reduced and taxes would
> rise.
>
> To be like the rest of the county.
>
> Tha
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Dan -
> Last time I asked Reidy, which was after you'd expressed frustration
at this
> process, he gave me no reason for me to suspect that the city had
decided to
> drop you. So what do they tell you?
> Maureen
>
No answer to emai
At 3:19 PM + 5/12/05, Skip Bernstein wrote:
>Joe, you're telling me the Master Incompetent held a public event on
>city property and is so devoid of common sense, he was unconscious of
>the threat posed by "
the tents [being] erected over disused flower
>beds
"? Wow! With friends and supporte
Obtuse; look it up, it'll delight you.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> All of which has what to do with the use of the Park that Werner and
> I were discussing?
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
Joe, you're telling me the Master Incompetent held a public event on
city property and is so devoid of common sense, he was unconscious of
the threat posed by "
the tents [being] erected over disused flower
beds
"? Wow! With friends and supporters like you/he needs me.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogro
All of which has what to do with the use of the Park that Werner and
I were discussing?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> "
non-point quickly morphed into your usual "I hate Fishman"
point
"
>
> BB82, no if you try comprehending, you'd have a chan
"
non-point quickly morphed into your usual "I hate Fishman" point
"
BB82, no if you try comprehending, you'd have a chance at `getting'
the meaning of my post. I happen to enjoy The Fish; hell if The
Fishman weren't here I'd have to invent him, the boys total ignorance
re development, his great
At 2:51 PM + 5/12/05, Skip Bernstein wrote:
>...I don't know if your extensive experience includes attendance at the
>October 14th groundbreaking; but if you weren't there, it may interest
>you to know that more than a dozen persons stumbled into a depression
>left from a previous event, which
Your initial non-point quickly morphed into your usual "I hate
Fishman" point, which has nothing at all to do with what Werner and
I are discussing. Lot's of cute jabs at me personally in your post,
but really you offer nothing to support Werner or me.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip
"No tent stake has ever punctured a line in those parks that I'm aware
of. No car has ever fractured its oil pan in Bradley Park.
Asbury
Park is a hassle free place to come and have a good time. I don't
want to scare folks away over highly unlikely liability [scenarios]."
BB82, you are of cours
Werner: Nothing impromptu about those football games. There were
leagues.
IF you don't think football is tougher on grass than a carnival
or trade shows, then you aren't playing football right.
If you think football is not "an historically significant use" in
Asbury Park, then please don't eve
thank god Asbury Park will enjoy another 4 years of a united
goverment. Shows that the folks of Asbury have grown beyond the ploys
of yesterdays politics (split the vote). Asbury Parks voters, truely
voted with thought( who would ever believed Asbury Park had come this
far).Mr.Keady, best of lu
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> You are historically incorrect about these parks having just a
> passive use as a garden. We used to play recreational football in
> those parks. It was filled with frisbee players that we used to
> fight for space
Werner,
Not only do I stand by my prior points, but they are stengthened.
You are historically incorrect about these parks having just a
passive use as a garden. We used to play recreational football in
those parks. It was filled with frisbee players that we used to
fight for space against.
Jim,
Thanks for bringing that to everyone's attention. I can assure you that all of the Keady, Koperweis, and Schneider signs have been removed. My wife Victoria and I scoured the city yesterday picking them up. I promised to do so as did many other candidates. Let's see what happens. IF
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> entertainment use was on the BW - but other plans exist - what if
> instead these fields were turned into a soccer field or bb field?
Most inappropriate option of them all.
Those parks are designed to be passive gardens co
entertainment use was on the BW - but other plans exist - what if
instead these fields were turned into a soccer field or bb field?
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Aren't parks there to be used by people? Carnivals are fun.
-and-
> As for the rest of your post, I disagree that so much
> permission/approval etc. should be needed to throw a simple party.
> Parks are for the peopl
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Why end with saying that I miss many points? That's a personal
> attack that doesn't have anything to do with what we are talking
> about. I won't do that to you.
Calling the following comment a "personal attack" i
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