[AsburyPark] Re: Bankruptcy Clause in Agreement - ambulance chaser

2005-05-20 Thread bluebishop82
Come clean? I don't recall the issue of who I am ever coming up, Skip. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm glad you enjoyed that; now why don't you come clean and sign your > contributions? I assume from Dan's letters that you are in fact Tom

[AsburyPark] Re: Bankruptcy Clause in Agreement - ambulance chaser

2005-05-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm glad you enjoyed that; now why don't you come clean and sign your > contributions? I assume from Dan's letters that you are in fact Tom > DeSeno. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain, I am the great

[AsburyPark] Re: Bankruptcy Clause in Agreement - ambulance chaser

2005-05-20 Thread Skip Bernstein
I'm glad you enjoyed that; now why don't you come clean and sign your contributions? I assume from Dan's letters that you are in fact Tom DeSeno. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now that's funny Skip! See, we can rib each other a little bit > witho

[AsburyPark] Re: Bankruptcy Clause in Agreement - ambulance chaser

2005-05-20 Thread bluebishop82
Now that's funny Skip! See, we can rib each other a little bit without actully being insulting. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > `As for you calling me an "ambulance chaser,"' > I have it on good authority that Tommy, BB82 or whoever in hell thi

Re: [AsburyPark] D'ANDREA AND COASTER ARE RIDICULOUS............

2005-05-20 Thread Lighty
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] D'ANDREA AND COASTER ARE RIDICULOUS On 5/20/05 10:28 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I like to put up the first $500.00 for the new publication. If Asbury Partners can fund the Coaster to promote the council, small investors and taxpayers

[AsburyPark] Re: Bankruptcy Clause in Agreement - ambulance chaser

2005-05-20 Thread Skip Bernstein
`As for you calling me an "ambulance chaser,"' I have it on good authority that Tommy, BB82 or whoever in hell this is, limits himself to chasing monster trucks; and you can take that to the bank. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nice backtrack. Now

[AsburyPark] Re: nothing out of the ground

2005-05-20 Thread bluebishop82
See my later post Gerry. The contract couldn't be drafted before the election (I went away for 10 days right before the election). The issue became moot after May 10, so there is nothing to show you (see my post you copied below - it was part of my offer). The election contingency was discus

[AsburyPark] Re: Bankruptcy Clause in Agreement

2005-05-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nice backtrack. Now you're just projecting your lack of > understanding on to me. My original post made no mention of the > bankruptcy clause. It was your original post that tried to make it > seem the redevelopm

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: nothing out of the ground

2005-05-20 Thread gtscarano212
Tommy can I see a copy of that contract. Jerry In a message dated 5/20/2005 2:50:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can't speak for those projects, but some people were awaiting the outcome of the election before investing.  Perhaps those projects were doing the

Re: [AsburyPark] D'ANDREA AND COASTER ARE RIDICULOUS............

2005-05-20 Thread gtscarano212
I like to put up the first $500.00 for the new publication. If Asbury Partners can fund the Coaster to promote the council, small investors and taxpayers should fund the new publication. If the council (re-election team) can raise over $65,000.00 (over $30.00 per vote)to get re-elected, ho

[AsburyPark] Re: Bankruptcy Clause in Agreement

2005-05-20 Thread asburycouple
Didn't understand the slam at AP either. And you go Tom! 3-5 years of bankrupcy litigation wouldn't make buying a unit right before the election a good investment. I'd have asked for the same clause. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nice backt

[AsburyPark] Re: Bankruptcy Clause in Agreement

2005-05-20 Thread bluebishop82
Nice backtrack. Now you're just projecting your lack of understanding on to me. My original post made no mention of the bankruptcy clause. It was your original post that tried to make it seem the redevelopment rights would stay clear of the bankruptcy court (that was the point of your post),

[AsburyPark] Re: Bankruptcy Clause in Agreement

2005-05-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I never said it was "no good." I've read your bragging about the > lawyers you deal with being the best there is. Go ask one of them > what proceedings you could expect from creditors if this provision > is trigger

[AsburyPark] Re: Bankruptcy Clause in Agreement

2005-05-20 Thread bluebishop82
I never said it was "no good." I've read your bragging about the lawyers you deal with being the best there is. Go ask one of them what proceedings you could expect from creditors if this provision is triggered. If your lawyers think that the City just gets to take the rights using this clau

[AsburyPark] email to Aaron

2005-05-20 Thread dfsavgny
Mr. Aaron Tom DeSeno, a local Asbury Park attorney, has stated that the bankruptcy clause (Section 8.8) contained in the redevelopment agreement with Asbury Partners would not be enforceable in a court of law. Can you please opine as to the validity of this statement and the enforcebility of

[AsburyPark] Bankruptcy Clause in Agreement

2005-05-20 Thread dfsavgny
Here it is Tommy. Please tell us nonlawyers why it is no good and why our city government thinks we are protected by it. 8.8 Bankruptcy of Master Developer. (a) As used herein, the following terms shall have the following meanings: (1) The term "Bankruptcy Event" shall mean e

[AsburyPark] Re: nothing out of the ground

2005-05-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do some more homework on the enforceability of that Bankruptcy > Clause and then get back to me, OK counsellor? > So are you saying that Jim Aaron, our redevelopment attorney wrote an agreement with a meaningless and

[AsburyPark] Re: nothing out of the ground

2005-05-20 Thread bluebishop82
Do some more homework on the enforceability of that Bankruptcy Clause and then get back to me, OK counsellor? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Enough stalling and > >

[AsburyPark] Re: nothing out of the ground

2005-05-20 Thread bluebishop82
"House of Cards???" That hurts JJ! Those guys were using phony appraisals to rip off the mortgage companies. That doesn't have anything to do with a contract contingency to void a deal (by the way my contract was not ready to be signed before the election so it became a non-issue anyway). In

[AsburyPark] Re: nothing out of the ground

2005-05-20 Thread jerseyjohn99
Election Contingency?!? I didn't realize the "House of Cards" thieves were out of prison already! In a booming real estate market, what seller in his right mind would offer to void a contract contingent on the inherent risk we face living in a democratic society??? You must have one fast talki

Re: [AsburyPark] Digest Number 1278

2005-05-20 Thread Lighty
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] Digest Number 1278   Maire and I mentioned the Hall of Fame on the show last night and the home page had a short report the day after the announcement. It's still up there if you go to site dir. and click on NJ Hall of Fame. Hopefully we can add udates as they happen.

[AsburyPark] Re: nothing out of the ground

2005-05-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I put an offer on a property here in AP, and insisted upon > an "election contingency" that would allow me to void the contract > if I did not like the outcome of the election. Tommy, I hope you renegged on the de

Re: [AsburyPark] Digest Number 1278

2005-05-20 Thread restore881FM
Gary - Of course the Casino would be a wonderful venue, joined by recording and musical training studios, sound stages, a viewing theater for independent films and/or a performing area that could also be used for drama coaching. The proceeds from filmgoers and concertgoers could augment any a

[AsburyPark] "Re: applebees, ruby tuesdays ect.–‘fo’get it!" wonder who

2005-05-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hell that's easy; who else? > But you're my favorite curmudgeon Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this grou

[AsburyPark] "Re: applebees, ruby tuesdays ect.-'fo'get it!"

2005-05-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anybody care to throw out their thoughts on the museum? > > Gary, you know my thoughts, which I have stated here before. You have to have a place on the waterfront. I don't think people locally appreciate how big this can

[AsburyPark] "Re: applebees, ruby tuesdays ect.–‘fo’get it!"

2005-05-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Times Square you have foot traffic - even when it was the center for > porn. Like AP, it was a matter of time and a mayor with skills to get > it done a few \differences here The parallels I referred to did not of course

Re: [AsburyPark] "Re: applebees, ruby tuesdays ect.-'fo'get it!"

2005-05-20 Thread Cheryl Vacchiano
It's the best news I've heard all year!!!Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/20/05 11:22 AM, "David J. Mieras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Thank you for the words of support for the New Jersey Music Hall of Fame> (NJMHOF) www.njmusic.org . We are actively seeking and in negotiation for a> spo

[AsburyPark] "Re: applebees, ruby tuesdays ect.–‘fo’get it!"

2005-05-20 Thread oakdorf
I was in Franks some time ago enjoying my lunch - more enjoyable was listening to a certain writer for TCN ranting to a couple business owners...about all the problems on Cookman, problems with individuals etc. One good thing about the hangouts in AP - you get to here what everyone is thinking

[AsburyPark] Re: nothing out of the ground

2005-05-20 Thread oakdorf
most of the properties were always bought with "an election contingency" - just no one ever mentioned it. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED

[AsburyPark] "Re: applebees, ruby tuesdays ect.–‘fo’get it!"

2005-05-20 Thread Joe D'Andrea
At 5:51 PM + 5/20/05, Skip Bernstein wrote: > >Shucks Joe, I didn't realize you cared. However, when eavesdropping >it would behoove you to get it right. It's not eavesdropping when one can hear a conversation without doing anything surreptitiously. Perhaps you're unaware of your surroundin

[AsburyPark] Re: nothing out of the ground

2005-05-20 Thread bluebishop82
Can't speak for those projects, but some people were awaiting the outcome of the election before investing. Perhaps those projects were doing the same. This even came up in the campaign itself. The anti-redevelopment talk of some candidates was enough to make investors nervous. I put an offe

[AsburyPark] Re: nothing out of the ground

2005-05-20 Thread bluebishop82
Can't speak for those projects, but some people were awaiting the outcome of the election before investing. Perhaps those projects were doing the same. This even came up in the campaign itself. The anti-redevelopment talk of some candidates was enough to make investors nervous. I put an offe

[AsburyPark] nothing out of the ground

2005-05-20 Thread charlie leonard
thats a good point, i was begining to question that also. howi is it possiable that all three sites are still below ground level? i know it takes awhile to do things, and order matierals. but it does seem like bothsites are at a plateau and waiting for something.. but by the end of last week, i

[AsburyPark] Re: applebees, ruby tuesdays ect.–‘fo’get it! numbers game

2005-05-20 Thread Skip Bernstein
"…seaview square …before it was sold? …an empty run down mall, with zero foot traffic." I should have explained the problem with cul-de-sacs, they're great for restricting drive through traffic, as in suburbia; they suck for retail districts dependent on anything but local foot traffic. Seaview

[AsburyPark] "Re: applebees, ruby tuesdays ect.–‘fo’get it!" wonder who

2005-05-20 Thread Skip Bernstein
Hell that's easy; who else? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And when visitor's do venture into town for -- oh I don't know -- a > birthday lunch with Mom and friends, it doe

[AsburyPark] Re: Time to start mourning HoJos... check in the mail

2005-05-20 Thread Skip Bernstein
"I heard a rumor that Fishman is buying his lease/business out." Fish bought the lease and liquor license for $250,000 nearly 3 years ago, George still waits for the check supposedly in the mail. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogr

Re: [AsburyPark] D'ANDREA AND COASTER ARE RIDICULOUS............

2005-05-20 Thread JWKeady
In a message dated 5/20/2005 11:36:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: THE COASTER IS APIECE OF CRAPPERIOD A suggestion...    Since you are critical of both the TCN and the Coaster, which you should be, might I suggest that you start a new publication in AP t

[AsburyPark] "Re: applebees, ruby tuesdays ect.–‘fo’get it!"

2005-05-20 Thread Skip Bernstein
`when visitor's do venture into town for …it doesn't help that the local curmudgeon sits …and bad mouths the city and everything it's doing. …those ladies from Rumson are not likely to return anytime soon..."' Shucks Joe, I didn't realize you cared. However, when eavesdropping it would behoove yo

Re: [AsburyPark] "Re: applebees, ruby tuesdays ect.-'fo'get it!"

2005-05-20 Thread charlie leonard
a small paper like tri city news isnt like a real newspaper, its more like a maginze of sorts. they only put in it what they want. nothing wrong with that, but thats just type of paper it is.. Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail

RE: [AsburyPark] Re: applebees, ruby tuesdays ect.foget it!

2005-05-20 Thread Tyler, Mark
Title: RE: [AsburyPark] Re: applebees, ruby tuesdays ect.foget it! It had parking though. -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of charlie leonard Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 12:52 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject:

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: applebees, ruby tuesdays ect.��fo�get it!

2005-05-20 Thread charlie leonard
"Asbury's a cul-de-sac, with limited purchasing power, limited parking and streets that frighten the greater market area; chains aren't going to pioneer the near nonexistent pedestrian traffic (and family restaurants in Asbury?) to win some sort of humanitarian award; they'll only go where the numb

[AsburyPark] ED JOHNSON AND JIM KEADY ARE THE ONLY HOPE......

2005-05-20 Thread mognj
Highly educated, intelligent, sophisticated, open minded, astute leaders who understand fairness and what needs to be done in Asbury Park. Men of vision who grasp socio/economic problems and are smart enough to seek answers from outside experts if needed. In other words, not 'know- it- alls.'It

[AsburyPark] "Re: applebees, ruby tuesdays ect.-'fo'get it!"

2005-05-20 Thread oakdorf
YOu have to go for it - but you have to find the support. Remember - some the largest investors with real $ have come in to AP and gone home. With phrases like "they've got to be kidding me..." "How much..?" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.

Re: [AsburyPark] "Re: applebees, ruby tuesdays ect.-'fo'get it!"

2005-05-20 Thread Lighty
On 5/20/05 11:22 AM, "David J. Mieras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you for the words of support for the New Jersey Music Hall of Fame > (NJMHOF) www.njmusic.org . We are actively seeking and in negotiation for a > spot. I do not think that people are aware of the incredible talent and > ski

[AsburyPark] D'ANDREA AND COASTER ARE RIDICULOUS............

2005-05-20 Thread mognj
Now Joey D in the letters column says the city doesn't pay him...it's UEZ funds.That's still the cities money Joey, you fraud. And The Coaster...edited by Ellen Carrollendorser of former boy friend Jim Brunoyou call that ethical Ellencome on! THE COASTER IS A PIECE OF CRAPPE

[AsburyPark] JACOBSON AND TRICITY ARE OUT (OUT) OF CONTROL..........

2005-05-20 Thread mognj
Last week Dan intimated Johnson was a lackey...an indentured servant to Bruno, Sanders and Loffrado. Can you believe the nerve? I certainly detected a touch of racism in there as well.but we know the TRICITY NEWS is a racist rag that no blacks read or advertise in, so what do you expect fro

Re: [AsburyPark] "Re: applebees, ruby tuesdays ect.-'fo'get it!"

2005-05-20 Thread David J. Mieras
Thank you for the words of support for the New Jersey Music Hall of Fame (NJMHOF) www.njmusic.org . We are actively seeking and in negotiation for a spot. I do not think that people are aware of the incredible talent and skills our Board of Director's possess. IMO we have the two foremost and p

[AsburyPark] "Re: applebees, ruby tuesdays ect.–‘fo’get it!"

2005-05-20 Thread oakdorf
Times Square you have foot traffic - even when it was the center for porn. Like AP, it was a matter of time and a mayor with skills to get it done a few \differences here Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To un

[AsburyPark] "Re: applebees, ruby tuesdays ect.–‘fo’get it!"

2005-05-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The requirements for the chains are pretty simple for most - TRAFFIC > and VISIBILITY. > > I can't tell you how many times I've driven down cookman to show > people what's happenning - makes it a tougher sell - but people

[AsburyPark] "Re: applebees, ruby tuesdays ect.–‘fo’get it!"

2005-05-20 Thread oakdorf
The requirements for the chains are pretty simple for most - TRAFFIC and VISIBILITY. I can't tell you how many times I've driven down cookman to show people what's happenning - makes it a tougher sell - but people have to have a clue. Someday, I tell them. Soon. Outsiders are more impressed

[AsburyPark] "Re: applebees, ruby tuesdays ect.–‘fo’get it!"

2005-05-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And when visitor's do venture into town for -- oh I don't know -- a birthday lunch with Mom and friends, it doesn't help that the local curmudgeon sits next to them at the restaurant and bad mouths the city and everyth

[AsburyPark] Re: Time to start mourning HoJos...?

2005-05-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "cathryn.be" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > there was an article in yesterday's asbury park press about howard johnson's > chains with a picture of the one on the boardwalk(business section). the > owner (george) wouldn't comment for the article. why do you thi

[AsburyPark] Re: Bruno's SweetHeart Deal...What the newspapers aren't telling you

2005-05-20 Thread Joe D'Andrea
At 12:52 PM + 5/20/05, Skip Bernstein wrote: >Was this lost in cyber space: Great points but seems slightly (11 >days) stale. We all read it on May 9th. Where were you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To un

[AsburyPark] "Re: applebees, ruby tuesdays ect.–‘fo’get it!"

2005-05-20 Thread Joe D'Andrea
At 4:17 AM + 5/20/05, Skip Bernstein wrote: >...Asbury's a cul-de-sac, with limited purchasing power, limited parking >and streets that frighten the greater market area; And when visitor's do venture into town for -- oh I don't know -- a birthday lunch with Mom and friends, it doesn't help t

Re: [AsburyPark] Time to start mourning HoJos...?

2005-05-20 Thread cathryn.be
there was an article in yesterday's asbury park press about howard johnson's chains with a picture of the one on the boardwalk(business section). the owner (george) wouldn't comment for the article.  why do you think that is?  i'm not clear on where the howard johnson's fits in the redevelopment

Re: [AsburyPark] Boardwalk material

2005-05-20 Thread cathryn.be
so what type of wood or other material is the boardwalk made up of? I'm a bit suspicious of the recycled plastic but that's me.  It doesn't feel or look as good (although no splinters!) and although yes it's better not to use up more trees(however we could use less trees for paper goods and let

[AsburyPark] Re: Bruno's SweetHeart Deal...What the newspapers aren't telling you

2005-05-20 Thread Skip Bernstein
Was this lost in cyber space: Great points but seems slightly (11 days) stale. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, kyangazi denson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Leslie: > >You forgot to list Bruno's SweetHeart deal. The $65,000 or so personl injury case Weldon approved when he was fire chief

[AsburyPark] Re: Bruno's SweetHeart Deal...What the newspapers aren't telling you

2005-05-20 Thread kyangazi denson
Leslie:      You forgot to list Bruno's SweetHeart deal.  The $65,000 or so personl injury case Weldon approved when he was fire chief.  I believe that's why Bruno, Kate and John L approved the back pay for the convicted felon and still support him to this day.  He's a crook, but he's our crook