Sunset Ave to City Hall, NY in 68 minutes, huh?
Yahoo said it's true, so it MUST be!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> JJ:
>
> Yahoo gives AP to NY in 68 minutes. That's about right, isn't it?
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "jerseyjohn99
Good question, and I'll try to give my interpretation.
When discussing religion, I'm Catholic and my wife & kids are
Jewish. (darn, I gave away the answer to the psychic waitresses). I
consider religious beliefs an adjective, not a noun. So I don't
consider myself A Catholic. (heck...neither do
JJ:
Yahoo gives AP to NY in 68 minutes. That's about right, isn't it?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "jerseyjohn99"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, NJ Transit seems to think I'm short by 33 minutes & Yahoo is
> off by 58 minutes. Considering they have a financial interest in
> posting
Skip just forget it. I should have know you weren't mature enough
to handle a subject like this.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> "
why the word Jew is derogatory but Jewish is not? I hope no one
> finds the very subject off limits. After all, I
Well, NJ Transit seems to think I'm short by 33 minutes & Yahoo is
off by 58 minutes. Considering they have a financial interest in
posting accurate times, I have less of a financial interest in
posting an accurate time, and a company based out of California
offering a free service has absolute
"
why the word Jew is derogatory but Jewish is not? I hope no one
finds the very subject off limits. After all, I worship a Jew (or
should I say Jewish guy?)."
First off I don't think anyone wants to know about your affair with
The Fishman.
I suspect it was the Nazis who coined the ultimate ins
Maybe someone on the board can help me out with this. Serious
question and I'm trying to learn.
Why is it that to say "He is a Jew" is considered insensitive or
insulting, but to say "He is Jewish" is OK. I must say for other
religions it is the opposite. If someone said of me "He is a
Cath
"Which one of these countries has ascended?Japan is the most
overatted country of all time, have you bought in to the hype? The
South Korean economy is down the tubes, how are they a success? They
are certainly better off than there communist brethren in the North,
but that is due to the US h
JJ:
This from Yahoo maps:
Starting from: Ocean City, NJ
Arriving at: Philadelphia, PA
Distance: 64.7 miles Approximate Travel Time: 1 hour 15 mins
They seem to think you are off by 25 minutes. So do I.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "jerseyjohn99"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Interesting Sandy.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > It is a slur only if it was meant in a derogotory way. The
> Jews
> > > have
I did not go back of course
but many of my friends are attorneys and situations like that are
clearly defamation of character- I'm just not the lawsuit type but I
heard from a friend who works outs at the JCC in Deal knows this
couple and they are going after them full force, it's ashame they
Where is this restaurant full of psychics? I want to see if they can
guess my family's religion & ethnic origins.
Yeah, and there's NO racism in Monmouth County...okay!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> It is a slur only if it was meant in a derogotory way
On what grounds are they going to sue?
After the bartender wrote slut(or whatever) on your bill you go back
to the place?? Why don't you sue? Or don't you have grounds to sue?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Joanne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> This is not the first time the staff at Parkhi
This is not the first time the staff at Parkhills have acted in
childish ways, I was a victim of their unprofessionalism and
immaturity last year when I received 2 tabs within a month when a
certain bartender wrote a derogatory name after my name ( like slut
and dirty) go figure, on one of the
Skip,
Which one of these countries has ascended? I'm confused about the
countries you choose as success stories? Japan is the most overatted
country of all time, have you bought in to the hype? Remember, they
were going to take over the world? The real estate of the Emperor's
palace in Tok
>From the 9th St Bridge to the Parkway is 5 minutes
Parkway to the Expressway is 15 minutes (assuming AC is closed that
day)
Expressway to Route 42 is 45 minutes
Route 42 to the Walt Whitman is 25 minutes (assuming they've stopped
construction on the day you come, and the obligatory 18 wheeler
d
Dear North Jersey natives:
Please stay out of Ocean City! There is nothing to see or do there,
and as someone mentioned, it's a ghost town.
Thank you,
JerseyJohn
but seriously, Ocean City was my family's Hyannisport/Kennebunkport
for about 70 years. Had a nice sized house on 12th & Wesley. It
I started posting on this forum around August 2001. So as not the have
to repeat a lot of stuff that has current relevence, here are some of
my observations from 4 years ago:
No City Planner - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/347
Urban Planning - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Asb
Well it's almost 7 pm. Time to go to the meeting and harass Jim
Keady. (Just Kidding!!!).
Actually there are some interesting agenda items. Even a little
Eminent Domain.
All should attend. Come on over if you are around.
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Thanks for the tip, Mario! When the bubble bursts I will swoop in
and pick up one co those condos above the boardwalk pavillions.
What a view!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],
>
>
> In reference to your comment:
>
>
> Oak I LOVE Oc
"Why don't you move there and let us know. Tell me of your freedoms
in Communist China."
I love it when right wing extremists find themselves boxed; the
failsafe position, if you don't like it here (in the land of the free)
move.
Tommy what if those of us who believe the founding fathers actua
On 8/17/05 6:45 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gary I forget why we were even making the comparison. What were we
> talking about?
One of the reasons why Monmouth County's version of the Jersey Shore is more
attractive for people to live year-round is that it's close to NYC and
-Then Asbury has to be in the top two!!!
-- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],
>
>
> In reference to your comment:
>
>
> Oak I LOVE Ocean City. I WISH Asbury could be like Ocean City
right
> now.
>
>
>
>
> Ocean City is #24 in the cou
Hello
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your
comment:
Oak I LOVE Ocean City. I WISH
Asbury could be like Ocean City right now.
Ocean City is #24 in the country for overpriced housing market! USATODAY.com
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-You call that a train. Trains are supposed to be fast. I can ride my
bike faster than nj transit!
-- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/17/05 6:18 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Faster from Ocean City to Philly than Asbury to NYC. At w
Gary I forget why we were even making the comparison. What were we
talking about?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/17/05 6:18 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Faster from Ocean City to Philly than Asbury to NYC. At worst it is
> > t
Why don't you move there and let us know. Tell me of your freedoms
in Communist China.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> "Central planning, over-planning and bureaucracy is what killed the
> Soviet Union. Perhaps you should look into that."
>
> H
On 8/17/05 6:18 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Faster from Ocean City to Philly than Asbury to NYC. At worst it is
> the same.
>
How about by mass transit? I'd bet it's a lot easier going from Asbury to
NYC than Ocean City to Philly. Maybe they have a bus or two, but we've got
"Central planning, over-planning and bureaucracy is what killed the
Soviet Union. Perhaps you should look into that."
How does the Republican Party explain the ascendancy of China, India,
Japan and South Korea?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Centr
Very funny!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -Well Tom, I guess I just hate myself to no end. [:-)
>
> -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Sandy said:
> >
> > "You get me a copy of the voter registration list
-Well Tom, I guess I just hate myself to no end. [:-)
-- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Sandy said:
>
> "You get me a copy of the voter registration list from the May
> election and I'll show you all the gay home owners that do not vote."
>
> Careful
If you drive real slow!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 8/17/2005 6:20:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Faster from Ocean City to Philly than Asbury to NYC.
>
>
> OC - Philly = 90 minutes without traffic
"If you insist upon a repeat of history, you are going to repeat some
pretty bad stuff."
Tommy how did hey let you out of, much less into, law school without a
course in reading comprehension? Now read this very slowly, aloud if
you must, "those who forget the lessons of history are doomed to
rep
In a message dated 8/17/2005 6:20:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Faster
from Ocean City to Philly than Asbury to NYC.
OC - Philly = 90 minutes without
traffic
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> -Which Ocean city? Jersey or Maryland?
>
>
> -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Oak I LOVE Ocean City. I WISH Asbury could be like Ocean City
> right
> > now.
> >
Central planning, over-planning and bureaucracy is what killed the
Soviet Union. Perhaps you should look into that.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> It's State and Federal law that protects historic resources from
> damage
> and yet allows for progres
-Which Ocean city? Jersey or Maryland?
-- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Oak I LOVE Ocean City. I WISH Asbury could be like Ocean City
right
> now.
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > youre' kidding me
If you insist upon a repeat of history, you are going to repeat some
pretty bad stuff. I'd mention one thing, but I wouldn't want JJ to
nail me with some internet rule.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> "
no slave to history. Like me
do wonderfu
-He was a man of intelligence?
Maybe we should get a few people with it now.
-- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Werner the state runs such efficient offices as the DMV. Ever
wait
> in line there?
>
> Government oversight is a joke. We shouldn't even
It's State and Federal law that protects historic resources from
damage
and yet allows for progress and forward looking development. As a
lawyer you really should look into it a bit more thouroughly before
making the comments you recently have denouncing historic
preservation.
I'm sure you can
"
no slave to history. Like me
do wonderful, progressive things
without being cuffed to the past. We can be better than out past with
only a bit of courage to do so."
Just when it appeared there might be hope our wonder boy, he reminds
us that those who forget the lessons of history are doomed t
On 8/17/05 6:02 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tim is the man. I really like this guy's posts. Like me, he is no
> slave to history. Like me he clearly has confidence that his own
> generation is good, and can do wonderful, progressive things without
> being cuffed to the past. W
Interesting Sandy.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> It is a slur only if it was meant in a derogotory way. The Jews
have
> to stop persecuting themselves. If it said Italian couple, i would
not
> be offended.
>
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
On 8/17/05 5:58 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sounds like they need year-round residential. Good plan.
>
Sounds like they're a little too far to commute to the jobs in Philly and
way too far to commute to NYC... Unlike Asbury Park.
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Faster from Ocean City to Philly than Asbury to NYC. At worst it is
the same.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/17/05 5:58 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Sounds like they need year-round residential. Good plan.
> >
>
> Sounds l
It is a slur only if it was meant in a derogotory way. The Jews have
to stop persecuting themselves. If it said Italian couple, i would not
be offended.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> By LEELA de KRETSER
> --
So people don't live on the beach in Jersey? Sounds like its time
for a fact finding tour Werner. You don't have to go very far to
see how wrong you are.
Ocean City, by the way, is currently building residential space on
top of thier boardwalk pavillions. Asbury should do the same.
--- In
They make enough in the tourist season to carry the city through the
winter. Keep in mind that the weather at the North Atantic Coast, of
which we are a part, is not conducive to beachfront activities, or even
strolling around if there were year round residential.
Werner
--- In AsburyPark@yaho
Tim is the man. I really like this guy's posts. Like me, he is no
slave to history. Like me he clearly has confidence that his own
generation is good, and can do wonderful, progressive things without
being cuffed to the past. We can be better than out past with only a
bit of courage to do so.
"As far as retail - you'll have no major interest until a % of stuff
is done. Lot of space to fill at 450,000 sq ft."
If Asbury has one mile of ocean front and you built these 450,000 sq
ft. of space along its entire length, you would need 86 ft. on one
storey or 43 ft. on two.
Meet you at the P
Sounds like they need year-round residential. Good plan.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 8/17/2005 5:50:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> I WISH Asbury could be like Ocean City right
> now.
>
>
> Ocean City is
Sandy said:
"You get me a copy of the voter registration list from the May
election and I'll show you all the gay home owners that do not vote."
Careful Sandy!!! Joe D'Andrea, on behalf of New Jersey's Democrat Party
Machine, is about to call you a homophobe! He's about to claim your
comment w
In a message dated 8/17/2005 5:50:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I WISH
Asbury could be like Ocean City right now.
Ocean City is a tourist destination. Go there in the winter - it's a
ghost town.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As far as retail - you'll have no major interest until a % of stuff
is
> done. Lot of space to fill at 450,000 sq ft.
Just to put that number into proper context, most of it is pre-existing
space. The Pavilions, Con.
-The only thing the election showed was voter apathy. The voters are
turned off because of the lack of positive action on the parts of
the politicians. Five years after their initial victory the only
thing they had to show for it was a new boardwalk and the demolition
of the Palace. The people
Charlie,
My post was in response to the comparison of the liberty Bell to
the Stone Pony. The 'Stone Pony' deals with the temporal pop culture
world. It is tied to that frivolous world. I would like to think the
'Libery Bell' deals a bit more with the eternal, and overall is a more
importan
Oak I LOVE Ocean City. I WISH Asbury could be like Ocean City right
now.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> youre' kidding me, once again. No oversight??
>
> YOu'd wind up with Ocean City and no beaches. Be one giant wall of
> condos...look at the bs the
youre' kidding me, once again. No oversight??
YOu'd wind up with Ocean City and no beaches. Be one giant wall of
condos...look at the bs they played with in the number of
stories/height of building.
Give them the key? Didn't need it when it wasn't locked.
Jsut hope they manage to complete some
Ask Werner he knows all the tech stuff.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> "Where we split
I don't say that they have had 3 years to build
> because the agreement was signed 10/2002. They couldn't do a thing
> without CAFRA, and that approval was a
"Where we split
I don't say that they have had 3 years to build
because the agreement was signed 10/2002. They couldn't do a thing
without CAFRA, and that approval was about 16 months ago. That doesn't
even consider those other layers of government they had to get
approvals from."
If they "could
Werner the state runs such efficient offices as the DMV. Ever wait
in line there?
Government oversight is a joke. We shouldn't even have a CAFRA.
James Bradley had no one to answer to when building AP. How'd he do
it with no government worker to help him along?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Where we split (I think, I'm not even sure) is that I don't say
> that they have had 3 years to build because the agreement was
> signed 10/2002. They couldn't do a thing without CAFRA, and that
> approval was about
So that's how Jim won
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Regarding Asbury Park / City Council election:
>
> 1.) Only a small percentage of people actually were paying
attention (i.e.
> came to the debates, read up on the challengers, knew the names of
all 1
It gets even better,
"We are a family restaurant, and we welcome everybody," she said,
adding that the words "Jew Couple" were never intended to be
derogatory.
"We use it as a form of identity," she said. She would not elaborate on
what the restaurant does when there is more than one couple
Regarding Asbury Park / City Council election:
1.) Only a small percentage of people actually were paying attention (i.e.
came to the debates, read up on the challengers, knew the names of all 19 people
running, and knew the platform differences between each). Most people did
NOT pay at
Apparantly Skip's radar for sarcasm has failed him.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Tommy sees the light
> "Elections don't tell us what the people want. American elections
> are meaningless. Let's not even have them."
>
> At a boy; we knew you
Dan I agree with you. I too don't like the lack of timelines in the
agreement. I too don't like the lack of speed for redeveloping the
beachfront properties. Totally agree with you.
Where we split (I think, I'm not even sure) is that I don't say that
they have had 3 years to build because th
By LEELA de KRETSER
/August 17, 2005/ -- Two diners on a date at a fancy Jersey Shore
restaurant were furious when they saw the check — which listed their
table as that of the "Jew Couple."
Brooklynite Elliot Stein says h
Tommy sees the light
"Elections don't tell us what the people want. American elections
are meaningless. Let's not even have them."
At a boy; we knew you had it in you! It's that idea thing and if you
go way back, pre TV, it and its companions, principle, honor, goodwill
towards your fellows and
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> To prove my point, the last paragraph from the article Dan cited:
>
> >This week, the Planning Board postponed review of a plan by
> > Paramount Homes to build 153 condominium units in three high-rise
> > towers north
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dan:
>
> Let's say I conceded all of that below. Does Asbury Partners get
> credit for the time that they were forced through the apporval
> processes?
>
Perhaps I do not understand you. Of course obtaining approva
To prove my point, the last paragraph from the article Dan cited:
>This week, the Planning Board postponed review of a plan by
> Paramount Homes to build 153 condominium units in three high-rise
> towers north of the Berkeley Carteret Oceanfront Hotel and
> Conference Center. The project's archite
let's not forget how long it took them to SUBMIT the app to begin with -
with all the legal juggling to AVOID much of the process.
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Well I stand corrected. It didn't take one year to get the CAFRA
permit. It took 1 1/2 years.
That of course doesn't include time wasted on Technical Review
Committee, Planning Board, etc.
is there really no one on this board that agrees with me that too
much government oversight is part o
Long Branch has/had developers. Zippo middle guys.
Went pretty simple - each of you bid/propose want you think works in
area a, area b, area c and area d based on OUR master plan.
Ugly, but getting better.
How many people are waiting an hour for an Ocean front dining
experience in AP on a Fri
Long Branch has/had developers. Zippo middle guys.
Went pretty simple - each of you bid/propose want you think works in
area a, area b, area c and area d based on OUR master plan.
Ugly, but getting better.
How many people are waiting an hour for an Ocean front dining
experience in AP on a Fri
So they get the CAFRA permit in March 2004. They are supposed to be
in construction by the Summer (2004). What happened? Westminisiter
seems to think the DEP did a good job in pushing the application.
Asbury Park to get its waterfront CAFRA permit
Published in the Asbury Park Press 3/26/04
B
Dan:
Let's say I conceded all of that below. Does Asbury Partners get
credit for the time that they were forced through the apporval
processes?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w
> It is you that ignore the facts. Can you show me a copy of the plans
> to restore the Casino, CH and Pavillions? I am not asking for actual
> perfromance and restoration now mind you, merely the plans? Did the
> permits hold these up? How long has it been since the CAFRA was
> approved? Not ev
OK Skip we will live in your world - elections don't count. Feel
better now? You win. Elections don't tell us what the people
want. No need to respond now - you are having your way here.
American elections are meaningless. Let's not even have them.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Glad you guys cleared that up. In the future I promise to ignore
the
> year it took to get the CAFRA permit. Never happened.
>
> Yet another argument I've lost in the world where facts are
ignored. I
> don't think
"what was the voter turnout
Certainly a great deal higher than the
percentage that post to this board. A much more scientific study of
what the people of AP want. ...I have a different mind-set about
elections.
I've never done in my life is claim that the result isn't
what the people wanted. Th
Glad you guys cleared that up. In the future I promise to ignore the
year it took to get the CAFRA permit. Never happened.
Yet another argument I've lost in the world where facts are ignored. I
don't think I'll ever get the hang of this.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> fast track - remember? The goal was to move all this along.
>
> Vist Long Branch lately? You may not like the way it looks - but they
> got it done in more or less the same time frame.
Yes, agreed. It is not the interagen
fast track - remember? The goal was to move all this along.
Vist Long Branch lately? You may not like the way it looks - but they
got it done in more or less the same time frame.
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Am I the only one on this board who sees the bad pun in this
misspelling?
(A little levity on this board isn't a bad thing every now and then.)
~Heshy
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A few more quotes from this interesting article:
[Developers have the upper hand because "they have more lobbying
power than the towns, and more experience than many of the mayors and
council people," the mayor contended. "They know more than I'll ever
know about getting what they want."]
[Dr.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I won't argue your point about the voters in AP being duped, or
scared
> or whatever. I just note that it is disrespectful to them. I
don't
> allege you intend that in any way; I am simply opining about the
> co
Werner,
You are fogetting to subtract the time it takes to get approvals
from Technical Review Committee, Planning Board, City Council, State
CAFRA, building permits, etc.
In all fairness, you should.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In AsburyP
> Tom, what was the voter turnout in %?
Certainly a great deal higher than the percentage that post to this
board. A much more scientific study of what the people of AP want.
I know I have a different mind-set about elections. One thing I've
never done in my life is claim that the result isn'
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>...The plan (Asbury Partners') is clear in my
> mind: minimal moneys spent and flip to maximize profits. They will
> be out of here when they think the time is right. Why our city
> council would assist them in this is bey
Developers lie, Mr. George said from all-too-personal experience. They
offer charming architects' renderings that might bear little
resemblance to the projects they build. They talk about revenue riches
but leave towns with schools to build, sewers to pay for and taxes to
raise.
"The develope
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> There is no better proof than that to show the people of AP want
> this plan. That's not to say that there aren't good Asbury Parkers
> like yourself that disagree, but certainly the election results are
> the best
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Asbury Partners had several years to try building up the summer
crowd and
> hasn't done so. This year they even paid for incredible musical
> entertainment each weekend and barely let anyone know about it.
>
> This was the
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Why should I Joe. Gays don't vote in Asbury Park. Your quotes to
> the AP Press today made that perfectly clear.
Well, at least you're a man of your convictions, I'll give you that.
Yah
Joe,
When I wanted to debate a political issue on the radio with
AP/Action (staggered terms in AP) the response was no response. No
answer to my public challenge in the paper, no answer to my emails,
no answer to my phone calls and no answer even when I see any of
serveral of the members face
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can understand people who are hesitant to let the world know that a
famous
> bar exists in their town (I had to fight with Monmouth County Tourism
to get
> them to start mentioning the Pony in their brochures) but the fact
Gary, Werner is incorrect. The City Council is doing exactly what
the people of Asbury Park want (focusing on a year round residential
economy).
This plan was very openly negotiated for more than a year, and the
Council and the Master Developer met with any person from Asbury who
asked for a
At 1:52 AM + 8/17/05, bluebishop82 wrote:
>Why should I Joe. Gays don't vote in Asbury Park. Your quotes to
>the AP Press today made that perfectly clear.
Nice try counselor... I'm not biting.
I can't help but notice that rather then deal with the question at hand -- why
the 11th district
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I wonder how many people in town realize that the plan does exactly
what you
> state here. If people were given an up or down vote on that
sentence would
> the people overwhelming say "no to tourism". I think a lot of
peo
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