Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Just curious - no greater than the least

2006-02-14 Thread gtscarano212
  That's Metro's modus operandi. They are trying the same thing here. They went ahead and spent money before they had approvals and when you balk, they say that it's not fair. Some on the Council and this City think Metro is the white knight. While I like their building, I say slam

[AsburyPark] Re: city, asbury partners - you can ask council

2006-02-14 Thread Skip Bernstein
"is there anyway to find out, what exactly the city is asking, telling asbury partners to do?" I believe "what exactly the city is asking, telling asbury partners to do" is on tomorrow's council agenda; if not you can ask council. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, g

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread charlie leonard
jerseyjohn, one quick thing.  you talked about how the sopranos butchers the langauge.  doesnt that happen with any ethnic status? and not just italians???  did you ever watch the tv show the nanny a few years back, how many over slanged jewish terms did she say?  do all jewish people really sou

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread jerseyjohn99
Gotta disagree with you there dfs. Italians are portrayed as criminals and terrorists far more than blacks, Latinos, or Arabs combined. Zogby did a survey a few years ago, asking teens how they perceived ethnicity in movies/television. http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=348 >> When as

[AsburyPark] Re: Council meeting and Bills to be approved...

2006-02-14 Thread oakdorf
never looked at this before. But it's the agenda for approval is posted on the city website. I have no idea what the bills are for - just interested in all those bills Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsu

[AsburyPark] JERRY... Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread apoojo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 10:18 PM + 2/14/06, apoojo wrote: > >...> i kinda supported you, and got my head bit off by jerry, hes been > >very testy since joe laid the law down to him, > > Notice Jerry never responded. I'll repeat it , si

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Tommy the probblem is that this guy has no life now that he's banned from the Wonder Bar he has to take his camera elsewhere until they realize what an ass he is. He's not worth responding to, I think the main peopl

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Tommy the probblem is that this guy has no life now that he's banned from the Wonder Bar he has to take his camera elsewhere until they realize what an ass he is. He's not worth responding to, I think the main peopl

[AsburyPark] city, asbury partners

2006-02-14 Thread charlie leonard
is there anyway to find out, what exactly the city is asking, telling asbury partners to do?  in order to make up for the lack of work, or missed deadlines.  it would suck pretty bad, if it was all ended, and the city didnt really get anything, and everything was signed, before anyone knew what

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Passing you by...

2006-02-14 Thread charlie leonard
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[AsburyPark] Re: Council meeting and Bills to be approved...

2006-02-14 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't believe the City pays his legal fees. The City pays for Fred L. As for the tax abatements they don't pay school tax the city gets a little more than it normally would. With a 80 million dollar budget I doubt t

[AsburyPark] JERRY... Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread Joe D'Andrea
At 10:18 PM + 2/14/06, apoojo wrote: >...> i kinda supported you, and got my head bit off by jerry, hes been >very testy since joe laid the law down to him, Notice Jerry never responded. I'll repeat it , since he slipped in there that he doesn't read every post. I'll even put his name in the

[AsburyPark] Re: Council meeting and Bills to be approved...

2006-02-14 Thread Joe D'Andrea
At 10:31 PM + 2/14/06, bluebishop82 wrote: >...Does anyone know how much he charges the City per hour? For what time >period is the $52K? Oak's blowing smoke... The bills he is referring to are less than $51K and they represent payments for both the Waterfront and General Attorney accounts.

[AsburyPark] Re: Skip, Please stop insulting BB....

2006-02-14 Thread bluebishop82
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok, reset the counter. > Done. Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL

[AsburyPark] Paterson, The Fishman swimming back to Asbury

2006-02-14 Thread Skip Bernstein
Interesting conversation with Rich DiPietro about The Fishman's failed attempt to become designated developers in Paterson, NJ, they apparently made political contributions to the mayor's re-election campaign, shortly thereafter their other development lawyer, Alfred L. Faiella, attempted to slip i

[AsburyPark] Re: Council meeting and Bills to be approved...

2006-02-14 Thread bluebishop82
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3. Aaron must of been busy and never slept. He ran up almost > $52,000 > in legal fees. CAn't imagine what he billed in LB. Plus his other > clients. Oak, Does anyone know how much he charges the City per hour? For what

[AsburyPark] Re: Statewide Eminent Domain Abuse Group Forming

2006-02-14 Thread bluebishop82
Kevin, I am hoping you can satisfy my curiosity on something. When you go to this meeting, can you tell me if they discussed on their agenda at all the evils of having judges use a loose construction of the Constitution? That's exactly what caused the Kelo decision, and I am curious to know

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread apoojo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" wrote: > > > There is help for the self-absorbed, try talking to a shrink. > > That's about 4 posts today with personal insults towards me from this > guy. Not

[AsburyPark] Council meeting and Bills to be approved...

2006-02-14 Thread oakdorf
Does anyone operate a budget or shop as if it were THEIR $: 1. Why do you have EZ-PASS fines? - Learn how to go through the correct lane. All someone has to do, is fill out the viloation form or call - and pay the .35 or .70 toll. There is probably a couple hundred in fines. 2. They paid $380

[AsburyPark] Statewide Eminent Domain Abuse Group Forming

2006-02-14 Thread jerseykev
Dear advocates for justice:   This just in from Erin Blake, president of the student group Princeton Justice Project (PJP), and our "host."  The university is providing Bowl 1 in the Woodrow Wilson School building (Robertson Hall) on campus.  This facility is made possible only because

[AsburyPark] Re: Skip, Please stop insulting BB....

2006-02-14 Thread bluebishop82
1 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "I know what will happen if I post something back to him... endless > posts jumping on me telling me to stop. [and from David] Ok, reset the > counter." > > Blind one be my guest, knock yourself out, just stop

[AsburyPark] Re: Fwd: MEETING SITE CONFIRMED!

2006-02-14 Thread bluebishop82
Kev, What's this meeting for? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > Dear advocates for justice: > >This just in from Erin Blake, president of the student group Princeton > Justice Project (PJP), and our "host." The university is providing Bowl 1

[AsburyPark] Re: Skip, Please stop insulting BB....

2006-02-14 Thread Skip Bernstein
"I know what will happen if I post something back to him... endless posts jumping on me telling me to stop. [and from David] Ok, reset the counter." Blind one be my guest, knock yourself out, just stop whining. My god (and I'm an agnostic) you represent that you're a lawyer, you pretend to be r

[AsburyPark] Fwd: MEETING SITE CONFIRMED!

2006-02-14 Thread jerseykev
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[AsburyPark] Skip, Please stop insulting BB....

2006-02-14 Thread oakdorf
Ok, reset the counter. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious - no greater than the least

2006-02-14 Thread oakdorf
Thanks Dan. I was hoping you'd see why I posted those snippets. Times have changed. Time to STOP dealing unless the REAL money, as in developers, come in. There are few areas in NJ that are truly in need of abatements. I said truly. You don't need Walmart on every corner. Jsut need crime/drug c

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why is it Italians always want a Jewish Accountant or lawyer? Because they are the best;) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsub

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread bluebishop82
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is help for the self-absorbed, try talking to a shrink. That's about 4 posts today with personal insults towards me from this guy. Not a word from any of you to him. I know what will happen if I post somethi

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious - no greater than the least

2006-02-14 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > AND ON METRO, ABATEMENTS, POLICITCAL CONTRIBS. As to what brings > Metro into the picture in AP > > > The defeated ordinance would have given an abatement to Hoboken- based > developer Dean Geibel, whose deal with H

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread Skip Bernstein
"The worst that I hear is when people say "I used to know guys like that back in my old neighborhood." No they didn't. Tony Soprano kills someone almost every week. They never knew anyone like that in their neighborhood because no one like that ever existed. See the problem there? Soprano is g

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know > that at one time or another other ethnicities and races wen't > through it, but they have all been moved under a safety net now. > Just try coming out with black face now in Hollywood and you will be > c

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious - no greater than the least

2006-02-14 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- so who's knocking down C-8 and rebuilding the rest of the you know > whatit - the Jews or Italians? > The Italians are doing the knocking down and building but the Jews are paying for it. Yahoo! Groups Links

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious - no greater than the least

2006-02-14 Thread oakdorf
AND ON METRO, ABATEMENTS, POLICITCAL CONTRIBS. As to what brings Metro into the picture in AP (2003)Hoboken City officials began closed door negotiations with developer Dean Geibel that brazenly ignored the recommendations of this new Master Plan. ...Dean Geibel, the developer of 800

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious - no greater than the least

2006-02-14 Thread Skip Bernstein
"so who's knocking down C-8 and rebuilding the rest of the you know what - the Jews or Italians" Henry Vaccaro's doing the knocking and Dean Geibel, if Larry leaves him with any money, is the rebuilder; a well known urban builder from Jackson, Jeffrey Fernbach, is alleged to be building North Beac

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread oakdorf
Why is it Italians always want a Jewish Accountant or lawyer? We all get tee'd off and the sterotype, rightfully so. Hopefully, your kids won't watch The Simpsons or South Park. One thing your kids have to try to do, is make themselves the best they can be - depsite it all. Yahoo! G

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread bluebishop82
The problem I have with the Italian American stereotype as criminals is that it is accepted as "OK" to portray it. You can't even go too far with it. Over and over and over you see it in movies, in commercials even in cartoons, and it is seen as acceptable. I know that at one time or another

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious - no greater than the least

2006-02-14 Thread oakdorf
--- so who's knocking down C-8 and rebuilding the rest of the you know whatit - the Jews or Italians? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious - no greater than the least

2006-02-14 Thread Skip Bernstein
"Hath not a Jew eyes? Hath not a Jew hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions, fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means, warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer, as a Christian is?" Hath not any man, woman, pe

[AsburyPark] Re: AP Getting Paid by Whom?

2006-02-14 Thread Skip Bernstein
"Can you imagine the visuals if they shot it from a helicopter over the Atlantic? But it will crash worse than C-8 if we don't have the new developer on hand to talk about the new grand design... Where is Metro?" Where indeed; where's The Fishman and his little can of yellow paint, where's the fi

Re: [AsburyPark] Blowing up C-8

2006-02-14 Thread charlie leonard
"Tommy - I believe the hold up in the demolition of c-8 is due to a lack of a permit to rebuild to the height Metro Homes desires. "   i didnit know there was a delay, everyday i go by, it semes there is less and less of it standing.  Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without anno

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread charlie leonard
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread charlie leonard
"I despise the Sopranos.  It is highly offensive to the Italian American community.  James Gandolfini is the "Step n' Fetchit" of the 21st Century.  I hope they put that on his tombstone.I protest any association, past and present, with that show and this City. This City has a proud Italian Amer

[AsburyPark] Shylock

2006-02-14 Thread dfsavgny
Interesting that what Skip brought up comes full circle, that the character of Shylock, is the label for much of what goes on in the Sopranos. A negative label for Jews eventually becomes a negative stereotype for Italian Americans, of course, because the act was practised by some. I post an i

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Alas the Queen has spoken, which of course means it's time to put > another happy face on that which she finds offensive; can't help but > ask what her Highness thinks of the Merchant of Venice, Shylock in > parti

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Followup for skip: > > > Plot Summary for > The Merchant of Venice (2004) He hath disgrac'd me and hind'red me half a million; laugh'd at my losses, mock'd at my gains, scorned my nation, thwarted my bargains, coole

Re: [AsburyPark] AP Getting Paid by Whom?

2006-02-14 Thread restore881FM
Since this is happening in the public domain, I don't see how the city could charge the media admission... Souvenirs, yes. However, an exclusive live showing might be salable - like which network gets to cover the Olympics?(That could be a stretch.) Maybe CNN or MSNBC would pay for the exclu

Re: [AsburyPark] Blowing up C-8

2006-02-14 Thread restore881FM
Tommy - I believe the hold up in the demolition of c-8 is due to a lack of a permit to rebuild to the height Metro Homes desires. Perhaps Don Sammett could verify this. Maureen   In a message dated 2/14/2006 11:17:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes: Message: 9   

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread oakdorf
Followup for skip: Plot Summary for The Merchant of Venice (2004) Venice, 1596. Melancholy Antonio loves the youthful Bassanio, so when Bassanio asks for 3000 ducats, Antonio says yes before knowing it's to sue for the hand of Portia. His capital tied up in merchant ships at sea, Antonio mu

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread Skip Bernstein
"I despise the Sopranos. It is highly offensive to the Italian American community. James Gandolfini is the "Step n' Fetchit" of the 21st Century. I hope they put that on his tombstone. I protest any association, past and present, with that show and this City. This City has a proud Italian Americ

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I despise the Sopranos. It is highly offensive to the Italian > American community. James Gandolfini is the "Step n' Fetchit" of the > 21st Century. I hope they put that on his tombstone. > > I protest any asso

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread oakdorf
they should raffle off chance to hit the switch, if true. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apoojo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > please read it again, it is a question, should the City get the money? > if it was a statement i would probably list a half dozen possible > reasons,as long as fishman doesnt get it im ok, you seem to be very > negative la

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread oakdorf
you have a right to be offended. However, AP does have it's own Italian- American history. You would probably be able write a few plots on some of these old stories...you have to admit it,there are some good old storylines just sitting around. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread oakdorf
call an attorney. Wait, seems like that was already done. That's why it's still standing. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread bluebishop82
I despise the Sopranos. It is highly offensive to the Italian American community. James Gandolfini is the "Step n' Fetchit" of the 21st Century. I hope they put that on his tombstone. I protest any association, past and present, with that show and this City. This City has a proud Italian Ame

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread apoojo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Henry is going to implode it, captured on national TV > > > if the future rights of this implosion are being sold, to be used in a > future movie, should the city get the money? > > Please explain your reason why the city shou

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread gtscarano212
  Henry is going to implode it, captured on national TV Also the implosion may used in a Soprano episode, talks are on going.     SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Passing you by...

2006-02-14 Thread gtscarano212
Sorry group   apoojo,   i agreed with BB and thought it appropriate to comment after listening to his babble that no one sticks up for him   Looks like a silly cheerleader response, Tommy has no problem expressing himself.  On the other hand I may. He defiantly does not need a lurker to a

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread gtscarano212
> Henry is going to implode it, captured on national TV>if the future rights of this implosion are being sold, to be used in a future movie, should the city get the money?   Please explain your reason why the city should get money. The idea that Henry may get national spot light on AP shoul

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread apoojo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" > wrote: > > > > A structure like C8: How does one take it down? Cut the steel > piece > > by piece? > > > > Anyone know? > > > Henry is going to implode it, capture

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread Jim
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> A structure like C8: How does one take it down? Cut the steel piece > by piece?> > Anyone know?>Bring in Hollywood let them make a movie & blow it up or make it Parking Garage & run a Daily shuttle around the Ocean

[AsburyPark] Re: Just curious

2006-02-14 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A structure like C8: How does one take it down? Cut the steel piece > by piece? > > Anyone know? > Henry is going to implode it, captured on national TV Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the

[AsburyPark] Re: Passing you by...

2006-02-14 Thread apoojo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/13/2006 4:18:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > here here the bishop is right, not the first time i might add, i do not > care about long branch or your personal crusade take