Re: [AsburyPark] soliciting money specifically to be used

2006-03-05 Thread Tom Wolfe
My mistake - I thought $400,000 in loans had to be paid back but I guess if we raise money to pay them off fast the money the City of Asbury Park would have paid could have been reallocated to other important things. I personally agree with all those good ideas. Just make sure that you earmark

[AsburyPark] Rev. Kevin Brown A True American Gadfly

2006-03-05 Thread jerseykev
GADFLY (noun) a person who stimulates or annoys especially by persistent criticism of a Government that refuses to operate on behalf of the people   I invite you all to view my comments at Long Branch City Council Tuesday, 2/28 Immediately after my remarks in the Public Speak Portion of the

[AsburyPark] Cabaret on Cookman

2006-03-05 Thread gtscarano212
Dear List Members - This information is pasted along for the Asbury Park Historical Society latest fundraising event.  I hope to see you all there for what should be a great night of entertainment.       Cabaret on Cookman  Presented by Red Fusion  and the Asbury Park Hi

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Gadfly Def.

2006-03-05 Thread gtscarano212
In a message dated 3/5/2006 7:01:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If people really care they would go see for themselves. They have something you will never ever have and that's a life. Your life is breaking balls just like Rita, that's why she recruited you.

[AsburyPark] 25% 50%25%

2006-03-05 Thread gtscarano212
Just plain wrong...the reason the people do not come to meetings is because the old council either choose not to listen or not capable of thinking out side the box. Most people who are regulars do not complain about the remarks from the audiences, but the faces and stares from the counc

[AsburyPark] Re: soliciting money specifically to be used

2006-03-05 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Why don't you raise money run Rita for council make her Mayor and everthing will be perfect. Taxes will go down crime will go down their will be developement up and down the waterfront recreation will improve the school will proste

[AsburyPark] Re: Gadfly Def.

2006-03-05 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > If people really care they would go see for themselves. They have something you will never ever have and that's a life. Your life is breaking balls just like Rita, that's why she recruited you. Like Tommy said the resident gave t

[AsburyPark] soliciting money specifically to be used

2006-03-05 Thread gtscarano212
Try soliciting money specifically to be used to put computers in the police cars, then use extra money to help teenagers to get working papers and mentors for first jobs. Leave the water park alone, its a done deal. Should install cameras to keep the place safe from vandals.  

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Gadfly Def.

2006-03-05 Thread gtscarano212
Every town has a Rita, and it's not welcomed but you need a watchdog group or government would run wild. I just think if Rita and her group had more tact the council meetings wouldn't get so crazy. At the next meeting let's see who throws the first punch. Well maybe the meeting after that

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Jerry... happy -- Cost is the issue

2006-03-05 Thread Tom Wolfe
RE: AP Spray Park Does any of the politicians or active community members on this Yahoo group know what, if any, legal issues there are about City of Asbury Park soliciting money specifically to be used to repay the $400K? If they cannot, what would we have to do to solicit donations, sell raff

[AsburyPark] Re: Gadfly Def.

2006-03-05 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Every town has a Rita, and it's not welcomed but you need a watchdog > group or government would run wild. I just think if Rita and her > group had more tact the council meetings wouldn't get so crazy. At > the next meeti

[AsburyPark] Re: Gadfly Def.

2006-03-05 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Every town has a Rita, and it's not welcomed but you need a watchdog group or government would run wild. I just think if Rita and her group had more tact the council meetings wouldn't get so crazy. At the next meet

[AsburyPark] Re: Jerry... happy -- Cost is the issue

2006-03-05 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Tom Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If I am out of line, naive, or unrealistic, forgive me. > None of the above. The spray park is already in operation. It was paid for (50%- $400K) in state funds and (50% - $400K)) in a low-interest loan to the city, wh

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Jerry... happy -- Cost is the issue

2006-03-05 Thread Tom Wolfe
About the Spray Park: If the City of Asbury Park cannot afford the entire cost, is it possible to solicit donations on the boardwalk this year from both locals and tourists to help out? I do not know if the City can organize it or if a non-profit would have to be set up. Maybe between donation

Re: [AsburyPark] Those are Jerry's words.

2006-03-05 Thread Tom Wolfe
As a new (part-time) resident, I am glad to hear that law enforcement is succeeding. On that note, I highly suggest that those that have yet to participate in the Citizens On Patrol (COP) program sign up immediately. Not only will you be helping to make your own city safer but the Citizen's A

[AsburyPark] Re: Gadfly Def.

2006-03-05 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > JJ and all else, > > Don't be locked to the varied dictionary definitions of Gadfly (some > postive some negative). > > When it comes to municipal watchdogging, GADFLY is absolutely the > highest honor you can re

[AsburyPark] Re: Gadfly Def.

2006-03-05 Thread bluebishop82
JJ and all else, Don't be locked to the varied dictionary definitions of Gadfly (some postive some negative). When it comes to municipal watchdogging, GADFLY is absolutely the highest honor you can receive (Socrates was the first). Embrace it. Feel free to call me GADFLY at all times. It is

Re: [AsburyPark] Track Record for Labeling

2006-03-05 Thread restore881FM
PS - Nancy's not the first guilty party in using Gadfly to dismiss a critic. How's this for déjà vu; The Homes News used the term repeatedly in quoting administration critic, Dave Harris, during the redevelopment of New Brunswick. Harris was a community activist, ran a home for unwed mothers

[AsburyPark] Re: Jerry... happy -- Cost is the issue

2006-03-05 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dan I haven't been to a Council Meeting in months however everytime > that I been there the meeting was always being disrupted by Rita > Jerry > and sometimes you having your own discusions while the council is > trying t

[AsburyPark] Re: New Urbanisn - Duany's Gift to AP

2006-03-05 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Dan, Thanks for finding this article. It echos what I have been > saying for the past several years. A look around the beachfront will > yield a view that should be a growing concern. > > Duany's rubber stamp

Re: [AsburyPark] Gadfly Def.

2006-03-05 Thread restore881FM
Perhaps the definition of "gadfly" should be noun 1. person who asks questions of elected officials as though they were accountable. 2. person who asks questions the media ask in other towns, but can't or won't in said example for fear of being alienated or isolated by public officials. 3. _e

[AsburyPark] Re: Jerry... happy -- Cost is the issue

2006-03-05 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "jerseyjohn99" > wrote: > > > > > > Dan I haven't been to a Council Meeting in months however everytime that I been there the meeting was always being disrupted by Rita Jerry and s

[AsburyPark] Re: Those are Jerry's words.

2006-03-05 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dennis, no one questioned Jerry's use of "white woman" and "black woman" and his posts that effectively called the mayor a racist. (OK.. Tom Deseno said a little something.) But the majority of everyone on this boa

[AsburyPark] Re: Jerry... happy -- Cost is the issue

2006-03-05 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dan wrote..." > > It is the east side where owners are being literally > yanked from their properties in the name of redevelopment." > > > What are you referring to Dan? Denny, I was not referring to landlords reloca

Re: [AsburyPark] Those are Jerry's words.

2006-03-05 Thread Joe D'Andrea
At 11:53 AM -0500 3/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >With all your wining Joe, even I cannot tell if you are bring me up or down to >your level. >This is a weird way to ask me out for a date? Let me put your mind at ease. I am not asking you out for a date. ~joe Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To vi

Re: [AsburyPark] Those are Jerry's words.

2006-03-05 Thread gtscarano212
With all your wining Joe, even I cannot tell if you are bring me up or down to your level. This is a weird way to ask me out for a date? SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park n

Re: [AsburyPark] Those are Jerry's words.

2006-03-05 Thread Joe D'Andrea
At 10:48 AM -0500 3/5/06, traderdube wrote: >Yeah, Joe, Jerry did say them, but worse is repeating them, as nauseum. > >I'll tell you what you might do to alleviate the strain on your moral >blinders, get a copy of Joni Mitchell's Both Sides Now, >take a listen and take heed. Dennis, no one ques

[AsburyPark] Those are Jerry's words.

2006-03-05 Thread traderdube
Yeah, Joe, Jerry did say them, but worse is repeating them, as nauseum. I'll tell you what you might do to alleviate the strain on your moral blinders, get a copy of Joni Mitchell's Both Sides Now, take a listen and take heed. Jersey John, have you seen the water park in AP? Does t look simila

[AsburyPark] Re: Jerry... happy -- Cost is the issue

2006-03-05 Thread traderdube
Dan wrote..." It is the east side where owners are being literally yanked from their properties in the name of redevelopment." What are you referring to Dan? I know for a fact, I was there, that everyone who lived in the 2 apt. buildings under renovation were treated more than fairly in thei

[AsburyPark] Re: New Urbanisn - Duany's Gift to AP

2006-03-05 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When Renderings Clash With Reality > By ANTOINETTE MARTIN > MONTCLAIR ... > > "The Hempstead developer took the buildings to the legal maximum > size," Ms. Kadus said. "It's entirely legal, but it is kind of > shocking

[AsburyPark] New Urbanisn - Duany's Gift to AP

2006-03-05 Thread dfsavgny
When Renderings Clash With Reality By ANTOINETTE MARTIN MONTCLAIR AS the first of 10 huge homes being built on the site of the former Marlboro Inn began to rise last fall toward its full height and breadth, so did the hue and cry. "Montclair monstrosities!" thundered resident critics on a blog

[AsburyPark] ALERT - PASSING IT ON

2006-03-05 Thread jerseykev
ALERT The Assmbly's "Commerce and Economic Development Committee" is holding hearings on Redevelopment for "increased ratables and economic development."  They made it an irrebuttable presumption that if YOUR real estate is designated "an area in need of redevelopment" then the only thing