[AsburyPark] Re: AsburySteve vs. Stand Up for Asbury

2006-07-24 Thread Steve
Hey Tom, what's your I.Q., 80 (That was FUN!) Supporting SUFA most certainly IS Anti-Homeless ... What kind of Fool are you?  Or are you Overburdened with Ignorance? (That was Better Fun!) Forcing People to be On the Street rather than in a Bed in 15 degree weather isn't "Anti-Homeless"  .

[AsburyPark] Re: A Liberal's Liberal On Rent Control

2006-07-24 Thread Steve
Oakdorf, I appreciate that you at least are trying to analyze the situation, and to see the side of the person who is locked into low income due to probably a combination of things including lack of Education, and Race as well. I just watched a show that Tom Brokaw did last night on NBC, an

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park from a newcomers perspective

2006-07-24 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Um...why do you people keep hijacking the topic? > Jack Um Jack... why do you not edit your reply to remove all the stuff already posted ? Smiley PLEASE... Folks, use the delete function or whatever technique you're fami

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park from a newcomers perspective

2006-07-24 Thread Hinge
Um...why do you people keep hijacking the topic? Jack --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Steve - I am going to sound as much like a broken record as you. > Please provide the sources for your assorted claims and statistics. I > am very interested in reading th

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park from a newcomers perspective

2006-07-24 Thread Tom
Steve - I am going to sound as much like a broken record as you. Please provide the sources for your assorted claims and statistics. I am very interested in reading them to see if you are applying them properly. Tom --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Al

[AsburyPark] Re: A Liberal's Liberal On Rent Control

2006-07-24 Thread Tom
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Why should super Wealthy People get away with paying 1/10 the percentage of Tax on their Assets and Earnings that everyone else does?" PLEASE REVEAL YOUR SOURCE FOR THIS POINT. "People like Bill Gates pay NO Tax on 90% of

[AsburyPark] Re: What Do We Do After All of Our Low Income Work Force is Thrown Out of Asbury

2006-07-24 Thread Tom
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Well Dube, I won't resort to swearing at you and calling you names (As you have)... You must have a Lot of Money to feel impervious to whatever happens!... You're obviously a good money maker (I assume), but maybe not a very go

[AsburyPark] Re: AsburySteve vs. Stand Up for Asbury

2006-07-24 Thread Tom
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "That's the way the Republicans have taken over control of almost everything. They bought up 99% of the Media, and leave OUT true news about humanitarian and Liberal things, and replace it with twisted propaganda about their stuf

[AsburyPark] Re: AsburySteve vs. Stand Up for Asbury

2006-07-24 Thread Tom
Steve, Please supply us with the sources of your statistics so that we may evaluate them. Numbers alone MEAN SQUAT! (Wow, unnecessary use of capital letters is FUN) Also, supporting SUFA is not automatically anti-homeless. But I guess you might be CONFUSED. (Again, that was FUN) Tom --- In

[AsburyPark] Timely News: When the Writer Becomes the Issue...

2006-07-24 Thread MarioAPNJ
Conservative Newspapers drop Ann Coulter's column for "stridency" 07/24/2006 @ 10:45 amFiled by RAW STORY A newspaper in Georgia has joined the tide of public sentiment against Ann Coulter and dropped her column, RAW STORY has learned. The

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park from a newcomers perspective

2006-07-24 Thread Steve
Allan, No Condo in Asbury Park is worth $1 Million, nor will any be for probably a decade, or more! As far as the Crime goes, it's 3 Times worse now than it was in 2000, Before the Redevelopment Began! Until these Clowns who think destroying the lives of 10,000 Local Minorities to get themse

[AsburyPark] Re: A Liberal's Liberal On Rent Control

2006-07-24 Thread Steve
Why should super Wealthy People get away with paying 1/10 the percentage of Tax on their Assets and Earnings that everyone else does? That's part of the problem both in NJ, and Nationally!  Corporations, big ones, were paying almost NO Tax at all until McGreevey plugged a loop hole on it (NJ Ta

[AsburyPark] Re: What Do We Do After All of Our Low Income Work Force is Thrown Out of Asbury

2006-07-24 Thread Steve
Well Dube, I won't resort to swearing at you and calling you names (As you have), but you just obviously know nothing about people are struggling to survive and can't because of forces out of their control! In this case, it's the "Big Machine" of  Redevelopment being controlled by Asbury Par

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park from a newcomers perspective

2006-07-24 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Where else can you get all this and now have to pay 400 to over a million for a home. > But the entertainment is free. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Great things a

Re: [AsburyPark] Asbury Park from a newcomers perspective

2006-07-24 Thread Allan Peterson
Where else can you get all this and now have to pay 400 to over a million for a home.Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Greetings,I'm writing this in response to the ongoing fight on this message board pertaining to racism, minimum wage and the entire Asburysteve thread.I recently moved to As

[AsburyPark] Re: AsburySteve vs. Stand Up for Asbury

2006-07-24 Thread Steve
Hello Again Mario, I think that you meant " You can catch more flies with sugar, than with vinegar", but you said "You can catch more flies than with vinegar." Anyway, I understood, and in certain cases, believe in what you said. However, in this case, the Powerful are over running the weak

[AsburyPark] Re: AsburySteve vs. Stand Up for Asbury

2006-07-24 Thread Steve
Hi Kevin, No, I didn't take anything personally, it was just that your message, although a nice thought, had no relevance to the Topic you "Responded" to!  That being that "Stand Up for Asbury" is trying to Block a Homeless Shelter we badly need here in Asbury Park, and I am FOR it! You made a

[AsburyPark] Asbury Park from a newcomers perspective

2006-07-24 Thread Hinge
Greetings, I'm writing this in response to the ongoing fight on this message board pertaining to racism, minimum wage and the entire Asburysteve thread. I recently moved to Asbury, and when I told my many friends that I was doing so, they all had the same reaction..."Asbury, ew. It's dangerous

[AsburyPark] Ocean Rescue 5th Ave beach.

2006-07-24 Thread GG518
Swimmers rescued by city firefighters ASBURY PARK: Two city firefighters came to the rescue of two Asbury Park men who were swimming at Fifth Avenue beach late Sunday afternoon, a fire official said. The swimmers, Abraham Vasquez, 23, and Jose Carlos Aguillar, 26, were rescued by firefighters C

[AsburyPark] Re: Flexibility in Eminent Domain and AffordableHousing

2006-07-24 Thread Steve
"dfsavgny", I'm assuming that you agree with, and like, the alternatives used in the Redevelopment in PATCHOGUE , NY, as far as Eminent Domain and Affordable Housing goes? I think it's Great what they're doing, and it's a shame that the insensitive Developers and Builders in the NJ Shore Are

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Greetings from Asbury Park on NJN

2006-07-24 Thread Allan Peterson
Not sure how this became a race issue however the Mayor has been leading/involved in the redevelopment since the beginning.    I'll ask, what is your opinion Sharon?Sharon Boone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> Did anybody w

[AsburyPark] Re: AsburySteve vs. Stand Up for Asbury

2006-07-24 Thread jerseykev
The "it" is the issue...   We as a people get no where divided, left - right - from the middle you embrace and require both the left and the right to move forward.  The feet bring you, the hands act and balance.   The "it" is the person...   If the right stays right and the left stays left -

[AsburyPark] Re: Stand Up For Asbury, Meeting!

2006-07-24 Thread oakdorf
Camden has rent control. I know of a 40 unit aprtment for sale there as well. The price is around $1.5m, with high offer of $1.2m. At those prices, the landlord will not make any money. Average rent: $330 per month for a 1 bedroom. The previous slumlord would not make repairs, because of the c

[AsburyPark] Re: A Liberal's Liberal On Rent Control

2006-07-24 Thread oakdorf
Problems with rent control, and I'm not reading all the other posts: 1. Whose to pay the landlord's bills for upkeep and repair and get this, to pay the property taxes? Is a tenant even willing to sahre in a 3% annual rise in expenses? 2. The social programs do pay as much as $1200 month in ren

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: What Do We Do After All of Our Low Income Work Force is Thrown Out of Asbury

2006-07-24 Thread Chris
I never said anything about my political affiliation, color, nor race.Typical liberal straw man tactics.  Keep drinking your Al Franken Kool-Aid.  You made an argument to a post I didn't create.Behavior is what I was talking about.  People acting in in-human ways and what drives this behavior. I

[AsburyPark] Please Trim the Replies

2006-07-24 Thread wernerapnj
Just a friendly request to please trim the contect of replies. There is no reason to included all of a previous post, it is already here stored on line. Remember that many folks chose to receive the 'digest' version of messeges via email. Huge repetative emails are not needed. Please snip, sni