Werner how about Long Branch? The similarities between their
beachfront and ours are many. Pier Village, where I went with my
family last weekend, is working very well.
Why do you think it wouldn't work in AP?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
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> Jack I understand and respect your feelings as stated above. But
with
> thousands of people going to Red Bank everyday even in the winter,
> doesn't that suggest the Red Bank model is a good one?
>
Tommie, Yes
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All I can see is Pier Village come to Asbury, just in a different
>configuration.
> And, while the influx of retailers would probably give a boost to
>AP, my main worry is the
> character of Asbury is going to disappear. Fo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe the contingencies
> are the same as I have laid out - MM saying to Partners " do what
>you
> are supposed to do and then we'll see"
Ding Ding Ding! Give that man a prize! Very perceptive of you, Dan
the Man! L
Werner is 100% correct with this post below!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Fred, You are incorrect in your assumptions as to what
the 'planned'
> direction was.
>
> The plan was not to 'attract people year round' is was to create a
year-
> rou
when you talk about having convention hall being a destination. what exaclty
do you mean? are you talking about higher things, more then what its been used
for in the past? (before the whole redevelopment stuff started) i think its
just something that is there, everyone knows its there. the
i dont see a new file loaded. maybe its not shown yet?? whats in it? i see
the link, > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/AsburyPark /files/MM- Proposal. JPG
is this picture a rendering, if so. how is that posisable? the boardwalk
is completely different. is this even posisable, or whos th
who is doing the work in the downstairs portion of the howard jonhsons
building? asbury partners or the mm? someone said it was mm?i did notice
some work being done on the windows above the hall opening, on the south side.
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Do You Yahoo!?
1 Bad Planning
2 Let Amateurs Run It
3 Let Amateurs Own It
4 Let Amateurs Control It
5 Do Nothing To Grab The Bull By The Horns
6 Poor Execution
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> The 'visitors should go elswhere' mentality.
Who needs us bennies. Sure like our re tax payments though.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Werner,
> Is this for real;
> "I suppose most folks have never seen the rendering
> of the interior of the 'new' Casino as a 3 level shopping mall."
> Where can one go to see that? If this is in fact the direction they
> are
Arhythmick,
The BC Hotel was pre-existing and had made a comeback over the years
in spite of the lack of redevelopment. Its size and use made it
undesirable for condemnation. The same for the Empress, it was being
rehabed as a gay enclave. They were written into the plan to be saved
unless emi
Werner,
Is this for real;
"I suppose most folks have never seen the rendering
of the interior of the 'new' Casino as a 3 level shopping mall."
Where can one go to see that? If this is in fact the direction they
are going in, where the hell are the going to put parking for that?
I wonder what kinda
Werner,
Based on your understanding of not wanting to attract people why do
you suppose there were several hotels included in the design?
Thanks
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Fred, You are incorrect in your assumptions as to what
the 'planned'
>
Werner,
Based on your understanding of not wanting to attract people why do
you suppose there were several hotels included in the design?
Thanks
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Fred, You are incorrect in your assumptions as to what
the 'planned'
>
Fred, You are incorrect in your assumptions as to what the 'planned'
direction was.
The plan was not to 'attract people year round' is was to create a year-
round residential community. Visitors were not calculated into the mix
as evidenced by the planning board testimony. Parking for visitors w
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
The plan is to attract people year round, I for one don't want year
round attractions. Come labor day I want all visiters out. Do we
really need tons of traffic year round? But that's what everbody
wants. To make it a pla
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
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> Your source is wrong. Tell him I said so. MM laid out some
> conditions that are currently being met. Once completed, MM starts
> their work.
>
> From your recount of your source's info, it became clear that i
But what are your feelings about the artists rendering of the redevelopment?
Do you see them creating a mall by the sea with very little sensitivity to
preserving what
little is left of Asbury's heritage?
Maybe i'm very much in the minority on this, but I figured I'd put it out there.
All I can s
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > >Sounds like you have bigger and deeper hears than me. I hope
you're
> wrong for all of our sakes.
I only want good for AP. I have much to loose otherwise.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>
> MM is in as soon as the contingencies are satisfied by Asbury
> Partners.
What you state sounds like a contract. All information to date is there
is no contract. Do you have any info to the contrary? Perhaps
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Tommie, That really sounds like the typical 'anything is better
>than
> nothing' evaluation. It looks great ??? What about it 'looks
>great'? What does that mean to you?
The biggest question on anyone's mind when th
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple"
> wrote:
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> >Sounds like you have bigger and deeper hears than me. I hope you're
wrong for all of our sakes.
Let's hope this is not the future of these condo proj
Your source is wrong. Tell him I said so. MM laid out some
conditions that are currently being met. Once completed, MM starts
their work.
>From your recount of your source's info, it became clear that it was
all made up when your source started to make MM sound like a social
justice organiz
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Let's hope this is not the future of these condo projects here...
>
I also heard that RDR is defaulting on the its loans and BOA may move
for foreclosure. Not a pretty picture in AP. There is widespread
stockhom s
Legislator Corodemus won't seek re-election
He and Palaia both bowing out
Posted by the _Asbury Park Press_ (http://www.app.com/) on 01/5/07
BY _BILL BOWMAN_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU _Post Comment _
(http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?Date=200
Let's hope this is not the future of these condo projects here...
Failed Condos Spur Rise in Vacant Apartments
By ALEX FRANGOS
January 5, 2007; Page A2
The U.S. apartment market ended 2006 with a surprisingly large
increase in the number of empty apartments, due to a combination of
rising rent
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>... Anyone with real estate experience shakes their
> head at what has been going on here for the past 5 years.
>
As are those with planning, preservation, restoration, urban
revitalization, engineering and economic bac
"How does it build upon AP's unique character?"
Werner, what I see from that image is a complete loss of AP's unique character.
I see something like a mall sitting next to a beach. No boardwalk. Just Disney.
It figures, because the architect also designed parts of downtown Disney.
While I believe h
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There appears to be no boardwalk.
> How the hell does this company, who says in there press release that
they will try and
> preserve the historic elements of AP think that this plan does that?
> Sure, CH and the Casino rem
I have it on good sources that MM has not done a deal with Fishman,
and quite frankly, may not do anything if Fishman and Partners stay
in the deal. They are quite fed up with these bunch of losers and
continually shake their heads at how a city could have possibly given
the redevelopment right
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
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> That looks great!
>
Tommie, That really sounds like the typical 'anything is better than
nothing' evaluation. It looks great ???
What about it 'looks great'? What does that mean to you?
Some things to ponder:
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