RBR actaully has requirements to "get in" their program. They took the time and
resources to
create a good program , so they say, in in the arts, math etc. I've heard good
and bad.
Don't think ALL the kids go there. A handful. Probably even a handful of
african american
students are "sent" th
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please do me two favors, explain what your referring to RBR
RBR is short for Red Bank Regional, where the white kids that are
supposed to be in Asbury Park High School are being bused to.
>and would
> you, or anyone, e
Tommy, you keep referring to Red Bank Regional, " Red Bank Regional
isn't private. It's an out of district public
school, taking all the white kids from Asbury's home district. That's
gotta stop."
Please do me two favors, explain what your referring to RBR and, would
you, or anyone, explain wha
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apeaexec1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's the reason that I was given. Asbury does not offer the
>same
> programs that RBR has.
John That's what the Commissioner's Ruling said in 1996 - better
music in Red Bank.
That's not a good enough reason to se
I'm with you on vouchers. I'd love to see it happen.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> At what point is educational opportunity considered equal?
>
> Shouldn't a kid and parent be held repsonsible for reaching that
goal?
>
> TD - - how about closing t
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apeaexec1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think I would rather be in Iraq. But I have never been there, so who
> knows what the difference. I like the idea of the cops, however, they
> were there after the October shooting. They were supposed to stay all
I think I would rather be in Iraq. But I have never been there, so who
knows what the difference. I like the idea of the cops, however, they
were there after the October shooting. They were supposed to stay all
year. Now the staff members are saying they are gone. I am not sure
how far a S
" I'd like to know if those "sold" signs are actually valid, or something
placed
there to give the perception of a sale."
i know many developers sometimes over exagerate their progress, hoping to
attract new buyers, but what reason do you have to feel that wesley really
hasnt sold what th
Bring in the national guard. I'm sure there are few guys in Iraq who'd rather
stand in the
hallway here.
How about bringing the police. Drastic, if you say it is bad then why wait. YOu
have a state of
emergency, don't you?
Since the Paramount or CHall is not being used, how about shipping the
At what point is educational opportunity considered equal?
Shouldn't a kid and parent be held repsonsible for reaching that goal?
TD - - how about closing the high school and giving each parent $13k per kid
voucher to
go anywhere they want? With the savings vs. AP spending, there is even
relo
I meant to say no confidence.--- In
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apeaexec1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Here's the reason that I was given. Asbury does not offer the same
> programs that RBR has. The BOE Interlaken President has asked
> several times how to get out of it. However, you
Here's the reason that I was given. Asbury does not offer the same
programs that RBR has. The BOE Interlaken President has asked
several times how to get out of it. However, you have a lot of
people that bitch and moan that Asbury doesn't offer a safe
atmosphere. That's the true fact. As f
Not when you have a 450 year, head start! Equal Opportunity, is just
what it infers! You can write all of the psychobabble, you want and
twist the words of Malcolm and Zora Neale Hurston. Funny, How Malcolm
Little, aka, Malcolm X, is referred to as just "Malcolm", like HE was
your personal, frie
Is the author, related to Ward Connerly? These are ALL right-winged,
"paid to say that African-Americans, DON'T want equal opportunity"!
Shouldn't have dignified you, with an answer! She's a stone, "Aunt
Jemima"!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> In Ca
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apeaexec1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Better yet, how do you make them go to the public school that they
>are
> required to (AP) instead of the loophole of sending them to RBR.
Overturn the decision that created the loophole.
>AS I
> said yesterday, it'
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tommy - for now, give me an example of how getting those kids (whose
> parents are looking for a better education and safer) back into AP
>over
> the next 4 years will improve the education for the rest?
That's not what
they can not afford private school or
> be able to move so one parent raising hell has little
> effect
YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO SEND YOUR KIDS TO PRIVATE SCHOOL. Look at this
way, your schools are funded better then any school in the state - and
almost the nation.
The school budget each year is
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If you want to make some money you can place a bet on
my child getting her education and if faced with
situation i would be doing more than complaining some
parents have stated that their complaints have fallen
on deaf ears and they can not afford private school or
be able to move so one parent rai
February 27, 2007
In New Jersey, Districts Find Aid Increases Insufficient
By WINNIE HU
Nearly half of the increased state aid that Gov. Jon S. Corzine
promised for schools in his budget proposal last week will be eaten
up by teachers' benefits and school construction, and much of the
remaining
Exactly. And with all those "sold" signs, wouldn't work be progressing much
faster to get
those tennents in? I'd like to know if those "sold" signs are actually valid,
or something placed
there to give the perception of a sale.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w
You should be complaining about it.
That your kids have to suffer. How many kids get promoted for the sake
of keeping everyone happy and fluffing the results?
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and how many did they really sell??
By now any subject to contracts are long gone. What were the original
closing dates. Anyone who jumped in early would be a fool not to have
taken an out by now.
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Woe, there pardner!! Let's keep that record straight.
I saw progress compared to what? Let's not take this out of context:
Friday, September 1, 2006 - If our tour with Westminster today was to
assure us that at least 55 people are crawling all over the development
known as Wesley Grove, it faile
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Sounds like they will make the deadline with the city.
>
Not all in the DRA for June 2007. That's only Hojo's. There's CH and
the Casino too.
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Better yet, how do you make them go to the public school that they are
required to (AP) instead of the loophole of sending them to RBR. AS I
said yesterday, it's been questioned before and no one seems to have
the answer. Yet we as taxpayers fund these kids to attend a "music
program" that th
So the story of the day is restaurant plans for HoJo moving ahead.
After I got through fuming at the fact that most of the maneuvers of late,
before the council as well, have been to force down the throats of the planning
board a plan to rehab the lower level of the 5th Ave pavilion in slap-dab
Yeah, but do you honestly think that completing that project is taking
place in a timely manner? I don't.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I understand what you are saying but haven't we been down this road
before. I seen to recall Asbury Radio posit
But given the fact that the state pays 85% of it or
more - what's the
real concern?
You're starting to sound just like to NJ Board of
Education Commission. "We're paying for it!!" "What
are they complaining about"
In speaking with some parents they basically feel like
it's a losing battle.
Maybe if residents of AP paid 85% of the schools operating budget, then
there would be an uprising. That's why people are concerned in non-
abbott districts - we fund our own schools and those of the abbotts.
But given the fact that the state pays 85% of it or more - what's the
real concern?
T
Maybe she can make it work. Give her the $80 million next year.
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I believe the issue is as much (if not more) about wealth as it is
race. Before everyone jumps down my throat - let me explain.
Bottom-line in this country (and everywhere else on earth) money
buys influence. And when you don't have much money you get very
little access to politicians and "le
I understand what you are saying but haven't we been down this road before. I
seen to recall Asbury Radio positing an investigative story how the worked
stoppped only to then tour the building and see progress. I believe they have
a garage under the site do you may not see all the trucks. Als
School choice.
Win a lawsuit and most parents will still not send their kids to AP,
UNLESS there were some signs of improvements. So far zero - minimal if
any.
Many of those parents send their kids to private - not to RBR.
I'm all for letting a parent in AP choose to send their kids to a
pri
Sounds like they will make the deadline with the city.
- Original Message
From: Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:14:56 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Restaurant plans move ahead
BY NANCY SHIELDS
COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU
ASBURY PARK
The Asbury Park Press opinion page invites you to share your thoughts on our
editorial about Asbury Park schools at
http://forums.app.com/viewtopic.php?t=3253
Editorial page editor Randy Bergmann also had a recent blog that drew lively
discussion about on Asbury Park schools, here:
http://rb
Thanks Denise - That's the one!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Denise" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [:O] www.state.nj.us/njded/legal/sboe/1997/asbpk.pdf
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote:
> >
> > TD: Lsats are June 11. Can't wait.
> >
> > Given the true facts, I see no
Now your missing the point on purpose.
THE KIDS IN HOWELL ARE GOING TO HOWELL.
THE WHITE KIDS IN ASBURY'S DISTRICT ARE NOT GOING TO ASBURY, THEY
ARE BEING BUSED AWAY.
If you can't manage enough intelligence to wrap your head around the
difference, then I can't help you.
I guess your school s
[:O] www.state.nj.us/njded/legal/sboe/1997/asbpk.pdf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> TD: Lsats are June 11. Can't wait.
>
> Given the true facts, I see no reason why the schools in NJ are not
> funded equally. Again, TD, at what point are things consider
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I know Justice Thomas' thiking pretty well.
>
>
Then read what he said.
kids of color can succeed - with kids of color.
Tommy, AP has to concentrate on education, not looking for reasons why
ot can't educate. S
I know Justice Thomas' thiking pretty well.
He would not favor busing kids from home to away, to create a racial
balance away.
Similarly, I'm certain he would not support busing from home to
away, to segregate home.
Me neither.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Private schools have zero to do with this. I support them. I
support that parents that send their kids there.
Red Bank Regional isn't private. It's an out of district public
school, taking all the white kids from Asbury's home district.
That's gotta stop.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,
Even if the law suit was won, the parents still can send their children to
private school or do home schooling. Without vastly improving the high school
first and making it a desirable place for students to be, any law suit would
be futile.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tommy,
DIVERSITY is not the answer to solving the educational failures of AP.
Did you read what Clarence Thomas said?
Black kids are succesfully educated. Just not in AP.
Solve the crime, the drugs and family issues that these kids and plenty
of others face everyday.
---
Doesn't a parent have a right to send their child to a private school
if they so choose. Many people actually move to such towns that ARE
sending districts because of religious preferences - not always fear
of AP.
If you know you're going to send your kids to a private school - why
move into a
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>
I think the Abbott lawsuit took about 4 years.
I'm with you on this one Tom. I don't understand the rationale
> (legally) around letting students in this district go to other
> district's public schools. Req
I'm with you on this one Tom. I don't understand the rationale
(legally) around letting students in this district go to other
district's public schools. Requiring those students to go to APH of
pay for private would improve the overall diversity of the school
while increasing the focus on imp
exactly, thanks
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think you mean the County. The City never had him.
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler"
> wrote:
> >
> > Firsthand info, FYI. The family wasn't happy with the fact tha
I think you mean the County. The City never had him.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Firsthand info, FYI. The family wasn't happy with the fact that
the
> city didn't inform them of Alex Franklin's release from custody
> either. Only afte
Firsthand info, FYI. The family wasn't happy with the fact that the
city didn't inform them of Alex Franklin's release from custody
either. Only after a phone call to the city two days later, was the
family told of his release and stated "you should have gotten a
call".
--- In AsburyPark@yaho
Oak you have taken my ball and run onto a whole different field with
it. In fact, you are not even playing the same sport with my ball.
NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING in any of my posts has to due with
inequality in funding. NOTHING.
My topic is that we are sending the white kids away from
You need only to look at the Frederick Douglas Academy in Harlem, New York
City. Here is a school that is entirely minority and has one of the best
reputations in the country for academic success. Almost 100% of their
graduating students attend college. The school is located in one of the
po
TD: Lsats are June 11. Can't wait.
Given the true facts, I see no reason why the schools in NJ are not
funded equally. Again, TD, at what point are things considered equal?
Is it the point every kid from an Abbott district gets into a college
of their choice or gets straight A's, what about the
The January 1994 edition of the newsletter of the National Association
for Neighborhood Schools reports on two Missouri officials, both black,
who oppose the continued forced busing of children. St. Louis Mayor
Freeman Bosley questions the point of sending almost 14,000 black
youngsters out of
[The District Court of Kansas City, Mo.] found that racial imbalances
constituted an ongoing constitutional violation that continued to
inflict harm on black students. This position appears to rest upon
the idea that any school that is black is inferior, and that blacks
cannot succeed without t
There is no reason to think that black students cannot learn as well
when surrounded by members of their own race as when they are in an
integrated environment.
What sound, sensible words. How long so many of us have waited to
hear them and see them once again in public print.
>>> READ THIS>
In California, the new century dawned with a lawsuit meant to do that.
The ACLU sued state education agencies in 2000 on behalf of poor,
mainly nonwhite students "being deprived of basic educational
opportunities available to more privileged children," says the suit.
Williams vs. California des
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Pretty low blow to suggest my goal here is to enrich attorneys. I
> guess that's all Thurgood Marshall was doing in Brown v Bd of Ed?
Read my post from yesterday on closing the high school.
1. Brown vs Bd. of
Pretty low blow to suggest my goal here is to enrich attorneys. I
guess that's all Thurgood Marshall was doing in Brown v Bd of Ed?
I would never suggest that you only try to see AP rise so you can
make a buck off realty. I know you love the joint. Give me the
same courtesy.
I blame the s
Thank you and all the others for the kind words. I'm still caught
between suing or just moving on. I will be filing losses on income
tax, but withouit any income, not sure how it can benefit me. That's
the sad part. Your words echo thousands of others I've corresponded
with, but pompous Asburia
Told ya. Trust me, if not done by the spring, they'll just put it off
until the fall, yet again. There are endless seasons to put it off
until! Go by north beach, and see how many contractors are there
while you're at it.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
So, I took another close look at Wesley Grove this morning. It appears
that there is hardly any work going on there at all. Shouldn't there
be contractors swarming all over that place to try and get it complete
by the spring?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
why blame the state?
If someone is entitled to send their kids OUT of the AP district under
TITLE 1, then how do you expect to FORCE a parent (via this lawsuit to
enrich the attorneys) to SEND their kids in to this school?
Close the high school for the next 5 years.
---
I can't help, but agree. Your posts, say it all, in a nutshell!
thanks, Tommy, for laying it out, as only you, can! Appreciate it!
SB
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apeaexec1" wrote:
>
> > The RBR deal for
I don't like your tone, either, miss!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> There you go again... I don't agree with you so I must be a
> racist... No one in my life has ever called me that before you, and
> you are calling me a racist for simply ques
Allan, you said:
"It always comes down to race".
I say:
It's a way for keeping Blacks, "dumbed down"! What else can you call
it? It, WAS Jannerone, back in the 80's, with Black kids, lacking
basic skills! If you weren't raised with Blacks, how would you know?
I've had AP graduates, go off to c
BY NANCY SHIELDS
COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU
ASBURY PARK The city Planning Board Monday night gave beachfront developers
the
go-ahead to begin interior work for a new restaurant in the vacant Howard
Johnson's in
the Fifth Avenue Pavilion.
However, the board withheld full approval for plans to g
It looks like the poor guy, was screwed, royally! I went to the
website and thought, what a beautiful business. I feel really bad,
for this man. Can you file the loss on your business income tax? Can
you sue? I would! Renting a bike would be easier for me, rather than
buy one, for the few ti
Didn't know you were/are, an attorney. I think the 2 of you combined,
are a formidable force! You both, seem to know the ins and outs, of
the Abbott decision and how one person, CAN make a difference. Are
you willing to take this on? You both, seem to want the BEST, for our
kids! I'm eternally
ASBURY PARK: Twelve candidates, including all five incumbents, are
seeking five seats on the Board of Education.
Board Vice President Garrett Giberson, 518 Deal Lake Drive, filed for
his second three-year term. Two incumbents who were appointed to fill
vacancies last month Gregory Hopson Sr
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