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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "evosap" wrote:
> >
> >.when you love someone, do you care what they look
> > like?
>
>
> Yes, even more so.
>
No, but I do appreciate when they shave their legs and pits. Call me
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>.when you love someone, do you care what they look
> like?
Yes, even more so.
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due process brennan? christmas lights brennan? people get high on
money and ideas. i am amazed how many people get sucked into it, the
falsity. i mean...look at the ads, the facades with the two by fours
holding them up. remember the murals of the shop fronts?
maybe we should ask them if we
And with sales jumping like that, why stop now?
oakdorf wrote:
>
> In an article dated Dec 6
>
> FIFTY was the number:
>
> “Since sales began three months ago, The Esperanza has sold more than
> 50 homes, proving the burgeoning interest in Asbury Park,� said
> developer Dean Geibel, managing p
When I had an office in town it seemed like everyone ate at either
Frank's, TJ's or went to Clancy's.
I agree with you, Asbury is bigger than a one restaurant for lunch.
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> In a message dated 12/12/2007 7:20:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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..
>
> i'd give anything for a rerun of the speech he gave at salt water just
> a couple of months ago...
I went to one in the summer at Salt where he held up the book. For me,
that was my finale.
Reminds me of early days of 1980's stock broker training programs.
Where is Brennan today?
Ya
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> In an article dated Dec 6
>
> FIFTY was the number:
>
> âSince sales began three months ago, The Esperanza has sold more than
> 50 homes, proving the burgeoning interest in Asbury Park,â said
> developer Dean Geibel,
wow..heady shit for the list. idea "viruses" are also called "memes"
richard dawkins apparently came up with the name long before gladwell,
though i mean to get that book...its pretty fascinating to think about
how many memes exist, how they restrict us, control us. i gotta
wonder if geibel and
according to an article on the 'net, Mr. Geibel paid 1/2 the costs to
redo his kids football field for a team he coaches. $450,000 out/pkt.
And AP can't get ONE field for Little League.
Do more digging, that field was probably funded 10 times.
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In an article dated Dec 6
FIFTY was the number:
âSince sales began three months ago, The Esperanza has sold more than
50 homes, proving the burgeoning interest in Asbury Park,â said
developer Dean Geibel, managing partner of the Hoboken-based Metro Homes.
Geez, you'd think the sales team mus
Prospective partners pay Trump an initial fee of several million
dollars and agree to pay 8% to 15% of the gross sales of their condos.
If the Trump name produces the 20%-plus premiums, both parties make out.
Finally, the Trumps get as much as half of every dollar paid exceeding
a benchmark, typi
> More than a one music venue town.
>
> Go to the same ol' places all the time, you get infected with group
think.
>
>
right on that. I was there one day last year and there was a local
lawyer bullshitting about something (didn't know me), a local builder
and co.
Still an interesting plac
>
> I remember that when I first moved here out of college, I thought
that the
> boardwalk was somewhat corny. Especially because they wouldn't
permit liquor
> on the bw (cept 4 HJ).
we usally had a keg in our office at the waffle house. every know and
then, our "friends" would get a 16 o
The idea of the book is about creating believers - as in spreading an
epidemic, a virus one that catches on.
>From what I read, there is one section where the tipping point is 150.
I'm curious if Dean wanted to reduce the size of THE ESP to 151? Read
on
Hopefully, "The Tipping Point" by the
The Geminids are back, but this year the asteroid that generates
this meteor shower is closer to earth than any other time since it
was discovered. Should be a brilliant show - 60 to 120 meteors an
hour.
Thursday right after evening twilight if you go to the beach and
look east/northeast, you
In a message dated 12/12/2007 7:20:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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how much more simple can you get then Frank's?
We're more than a one luncheonette town.
More than a one music venue town.
Go to the same ol' places all the time, you get infected with group
In a message dated 12/12/2007 7:19:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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And jenks got their start in ASBURY and OG. HIS major frustrations
even back them "RESTRICTIONS PLACED ON HIS BUSINESS" That is something
that frustrated boardwalk concessions all the way to 1990 ( i w
>
> Gimme a place in town with daily specials like meatloaf -- casual
enuf so
> that I can stir the peas into my mashed potatoes with gravy.
>
> Clancy's sucks, still have to drive to the real joint, Kelly's.
>
how much more simple can you get then Frank's?
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And jenks got their start in ASBURY and OG. HIS major frustrations
even back them "RESTRICTIONS PLACED ON HIS BUSINESS" That is something
that frustrated boardwalk concessions all the way to 1990 ( i was one).
READ ON>>
In th
In a message dated 12/12/2007 4:25:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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I think you also need far more "simple
lunch" places than Asbury generally has right now.
Gimme a place in town with daily specials like meatloaf -- casual enuf so
that I can stir the peas into
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hahahahhahahha
> I hate Wesley Grove. It has completely ruined the view from my
living room.
>
I'd buy a picture of lake or stick a flatscreen TV with some changing
scenery in my window if I were you.
If you don'
In a message dated 12/12/2007 6:53:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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Point has kiddie rides. Point has rental housing. Point has motels.
Point is "clean". Point feels safe. Point has Martells. Point has
Pepsi sponsoring. Point has entertainment. Point has weekly firewor
> places like the House of Blues etc, cool retro themed hotels, great
restaurants and the like
> would put this city back on the map.
I'm sure you've seen more then me...but I look to use the
entertainment zone Seminole Hardrock in Hollywood Fl as an example.
Cookman Ave to the Casino is a per
Hahahahhahahha
I hate Wesley Grove. It has completely ruined the view from my living room.
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote:
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> > -...the incentive - ONE MILE of Oceanfront with rights to develop
AP also has a worldwide connection with the music biz.
More people know about AP because of Bruce then anything else.
Besides the boardwalk, it's our number one commodity, and at the same time the
least
realized commodity.
Turning the entire redevelopment zone into an adult oriented entertainment
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> -...the incentive - ONE MILE of Oceanfront with rights to develop 56
> acres.
>
> How do you f that up?
>
Let me answer part of that:
1. Approve the design of Wesley Grove.
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--- Point Pleasant would Werner's perfect example of what works - well
almost.
Point is PRIVATELY owned - not the entire boardwalk, but various
parcels along the BW. Point also had a great fire at end of the season
some years back.
They got the aquarium as little as it. The same time period, AP
-...the incentive - ONE MILE of Oceanfront with rights to develop 56
acres.
How do you f that up?
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> Is there something that the town of Asbury Park could give to Madison
> Marquette as incentive (ie additional development rights in the city)
> in return for buying out Asbury Partners on the boardwalk?
>
> Just an id
Considering the fact that in Pt. Pleasant, where the boardwalk is packed every
single day
during the summer, and people are paying way too much money for food, parking
and
everything else, I guess you are right.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In
Here's your incentive. A successful redevelopment with your name Madison
Marquette as the
developer.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arhythmick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Is there something that the town of Asbury Park could give to Madison
> Marquette as incentive (ie additional devel
Is there something that the town of Asbury Park could give to Madison
Marquette as incentive (ie additional development rights in the city)
in return for buying out Asbury Partners on the boardwalk?
Just an idea...
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>
> Tax liquor sales on the Boardwalk. 2% sales tax on booze. Will it
> stop anyone from buying.
> No.
Sunshine, sand and water. What more do you need? What's the problem?
Partners. If you just build the stuff for peop
>
> Many shore communities have switched to full residential uses. The
> only problem with that model is that the only source of revenue
> becomes residential real estate taxes. You can figure out the rest
by
> yourself.
>
What Dan is saying is look who's left to pay all the salaries of
runnin
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> Dan can make sense of where I'm going.
>
> TAX 'em.
>
My second recommendation (already given) to the City after getting a
new redevelopment attorney.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Yeah, but aren't you walking a fine line there when it comes to taxes?
>
Nope.
They have to carry their fair share. There is a fine line. How about an
entertainment tax - like $1.00 per ticket at each venue. Do you e
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> I'm sure Werner can help me out with this one but isn't that a lot
> closer to the historical plans of a beach/tourist town?
yes
> So what is the lure with all housing? Does it really bring in a ton of
> tax revenue -
Yeah, but aren't you walking a fine line there when it comes to taxes?
Remember the exodus of people out of NJ because of the cost of living here?
Isn't it a better idea to have a large scale industry, like entertainment which
has tons of
employees and patrons coming to spend money and pay taxes
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Because it sure seems like the
> places that have been built aren't exactly having people line up
around
> the corner to live there.
>
They did line up at Wesley and N. Beach - sort of. Then they didn't
know how to build o
Not to mention that a true entertainment district would includes shows
in the late morning and afternoons geared to the school kids and field
trips.
Jack Pitzer wrote:
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> On the other hand, say a real viable entertainment district was
> developed. This would
> create tons of jobs in our city,
On the other hand, say a real viable entertainment district was developed. This
would
create tons of jobs in our city, and all those workers would need to eat. Prep
work to put
on a show begins early in the afternoon, it's not just a nighttime thing.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgn
Ok, I'll admit my ignorance when it comes to housing issues and how that
all plays into tax dollars (the whole abatement issue confuses me with
regards to this as well) but anyway...
Can anyone explain to me how Asbury Park would be better off with the
several condo projects planned and those i
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> > > destination. They help each other. Ever hear of restaurant row?
> > >
> >
>
> Restaraunt Row is great - at night.
>
> They struggle during the day and without office workers or strong
> daytime retail, they suffe
> > destination. They help each other. Ever hear of restaurant row?
> >
>
Restaraunt Row is great - at night.
They struggle during the day and without office workers or strong
daytime retail, they suffer - as do other regualr retailers that
really need daytime foot traffic, especially when t
Another thing just came to mind.
We have no idea what the future of the ESP is going to be. For all we know,
what has been
built might wind up sitting there rotting away for years.
But, what they have started looks like the beginnings of a parking garage,
which is exactly
what would be needed i
Another thing just came to mind.
We have no idea what the future of the ESP is going to be. For all we know,
what has been
built might wind up sitting there rotting away for years.
But, what they have started looks like the beginnings of a parking garage,
which is exactly
what would be needed i
I can't disagree with that.
In fact, a restaurant row in conjunction with an oceanfront
entertainment district would probably go a long way.
Think about all the plus's of this:
Jobs.
Traffic into the city.
Positive PR for the city.
Other local industries popping up to support the entertainment dist
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> In my opinion, retail isn't going to do it. We are already saturated
> with that. Same goes for eateries.
You are right about the music but wrong about the restaurants. AP is
already known for a wide radius as having
If you really think about it, music is the only constant that has
brought large crowds to AP on a consistent basis. Think back to the
WNEW concerts all the way up to Hall and Oats. Music is and should be
the key to the future of AP.
People will trek to AC to see big name shows there, just as they w
I stopped by the Asbury Park Roastery to score some more of my drug of
choice. I saw Alli preparing some very beautiful gift boxes full of
her delicious coffees and teas. That made shopping a lot easier for
me. These make an awesome gifts and promotes some of the best of
Asbury Park.
Asbury
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How about Bueno Sera, starbucks, no joe, Ashes, teak, red, bisto,
diner, zebu, basils, pastariadiner, ze
I meant the immediate "feel" you get when you walk out of CV. Personally I
go for the
>
> Beach Cinema has worked as it is lcoated in what you'd call a "safe"
> family area.> And Clearview in RB,
How about Bueno Sera, starbucks, no joe, Ashes, teak, red, bisto,
diner, zebu, basils, pastariaand more.
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Beach Cinema has worked as it is lcoated in what you'd call a "safe"
family area.
And Clearview in RB, showing non-cineplex films, is also considered safe, I
guess; though the shootings going on in
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Beach Cinema has worked as it is lcoated in what you'd call a "safe"
family area.
And Clearview in RB, showing non-cineplex films, is also considered safe, I
guess; though the shootings going on
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the most out of the box thing that would have a huge
impact on AP would be something like a House of Blues, like I
mentioned before.
I'm all for more and varied music venues also. Someplace to go
I for one don't think so! I believe that there's a whole lot, we
don't know! Just like the White House; it's a secret!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I think the think that bothers people the most is that - at least from
> an outsider's perspective -
LOL!
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rook782" wrote:
> >
> > How about Dan S. for Deputy Mayor/ Like Bush/Cheney or
> > Sanders/Bruno.
> >
> > Anyone want to guess what I'm implying?
> >
> That I would be a b
Beach Cinema has worked as it is lcoated in what you'd call a "safe"
family area.
Then you have Vic's, which hasn't been the same since the old man
died and they're trying to make more $.
I actaully walked out about 1.5 years ago, when the pizza was so bad
I actaully walked bck to the kitchen.
In my opinion, the most out of the box thing that would have a huge
impact on AP would be something like a House of Blues, like I
mentioned before. If one of those were built here, it would definitely
succeed and probably jumpstart many other things.
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Kohl's Dept store will be opening in Middlebrook Shopping Center
pending Twp approval.
I can think of 2 places where Kohl's would of been nice.
1. Where Lifestyles is 30,000 sq ft
2. From another view - Steinbach's - had it been left all for retail.
That as well could be considered "failed" a
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As optimistic as this sounds, I think there's a couple of problems.
Bradley has an advantage that if you go see a movie at that theater,
you can stay parked and walk to a wide variety of restaurants
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Total BS about reorg. Why would you shut your sales office? We will
> suffer for the lack of guarantees.
>
Exactly. Sales office, at least skeleton staff should remain.
Also, see Maureen's piece on asburyradio.com.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Drove past ESP this morning - The worker's port-a-potties were being
> hauled away. And looked like some metal was being secured/packed on
> racks. Office closed up.
>
> Someone told me the sales team had no clue. They w
Drove past ESP this morning - The worker's port-a-potties were being
hauled away. And looked like some metal was being secured/packed on
racks. Office closed up.
Someone told me the sales team had no clue. They were called Fri and
told don't come to work the next day.
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I can only think of one statement, coming to mind; "Hindsight is
20/20"! What else can I say? Werner, you laid it out for them, but
did anyone listen? No, but they FIND time, to hassle you and anyone
else, that they feel threatened by! To the City: "We told you so"!
We need REAL law and order
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "John C. LiDestri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-
> 12/1197440355201690.xml&coll=1
>
ANOTHER ASBURY DREAM DELAYED
Developer calls halt to condo complex
Wednesday, December 12, 2007
BY MARYANN SPOTO
Star-Ledger St
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> http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-
> 12/1197440355201690.xml&coll=1
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One of the big issues is NOT to allow it to be redesigned in such a way
you wind up with something that looks like Asbury To
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> Exxon plans natural gas terminal off N.J.
>
>
Good. Take some of that oil money build Exxon a corporate office on
Dan's dream spot - the One Muni Plaza.
Let dan take the first swing with the wrecking ball.
> > thanks. The Weg's Tomato basil is a great starter in our house if I
> > don't make my own.
> >
>
> whatsamattau! nicea jewish boy donno howwa to maka di sauce?
>
John has done a wonderful job. One ting about Weg's, they have made you
feel comfortable to buy "their" brand. The same thing has
Exxon plans natural gas terminal off N.J.
IRVING, Texas, Dec. 12 (UPI) -- Exxon Mobil Corp. plans to build a $1 billion
floating natural gas terminal 20 miles off the New Jersey coast, the
multinational U.S. energy giant said.
The boatlike terminal, dubbed BlueOcean Energy, would be the first E
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Maybe a look into the people holding the positions, not the structure. Let's
face it, the manager has our finances a mess and the end in site was the
condos. It is going to take a while for building to return.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rook782" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> No. I was implying that Deputy Bruno and Vice President Cheney really
> run the show. So, I was implying that you need your puppet.
It was a feeble attempt at humor on my part. I would not like to seek
public office but
No. I was implying that Deputy Bruno and Vice President Cheney really
run the show. So, I was implying that you need your puppet.
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rook782" wrote:
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> > How about Dan S. for Deputy
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I think the think that bothers people the most is that - at least from
> an outsider's perspective - it doesn't appear that the Council holds
> Asbury Partners accountable for either their actions or the contract
> origin
I think the think that bothers people the most is that - at least from
an outsider's perspective - it doesn't appear that the Council holds
Asbury Partners accountable for either their actions or the contract
originally signed. There has been too many loopholes, including those
set up in the
I'm not sure what the answer is.
What do you think needs to change about the council for them to be
more effective?
Am I wrong, and the council is doing a fine job?
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" wrote:
December 12, 2007
Hoboken's Rebirth Fuels School Aid Formula Fight
By WINNIE HU
HOBOKEN, N.J. In the early 1970s, Hoboken was so broken down that
some residents feared for their lives. Crime and arson were rampant,
and those who could afford to fled to neighboring towns like Secaucus.
But gleam
As optimistic as this sounds, I think there's a couple of problems.
Bradley has an advantage that if you go see a movie at that theater,
you can stay parked and walk to a wide variety of restaurants.
Currently, we only have one viable movie theater, The Paramount.
Not too many places that you can w
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Yeah, but is a full-time city manager enough for a city such as ours?
Would it be any different from a full time mayor? Or are you
suggesting that we redo the government structure and have a full time
mayor with full t
Yeah, but is a full-time city manager enough for a city such as ours?
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" wrote:
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> > Doesn't this whole issue point out the inadequacies of a city with a
> part time
> >
Asbury Park to throw parade saluting young football heroes
By NANCY SHIELDS
COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU
City and school officials announced Tuesday that a parade to honor the
championship Asbury Park High School and Pop Warner Blue Bishop
football teams will begin at 1 p.m. Dec. 22 at Bangs and DeWit
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Doesn't this whole issue point out the inadequacies of a city with a
part time
> administration?
We have a full-time city manager.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rook782" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> How about Dan S. for Deputy Mayor/ Like Bush/Cheney or
> Sanders/Bruno.
>
> Anyone want to guess what I'm implying?
>
That I would be a bigger prick than Guiliani.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> > >
> > We pack their pasta sauce as well as their salsa.
> >
>
> thanks. The Weg's Tomato basil is a great starter in our house if I
> don't make my own.
>
whatsamattau! nicea jewish boy donno howwa to maka di sauce?
Folks at Bradley's Beach Cinema keep quietly doing their thing, and I'm
assuming they're very successful at it. Lines to buy tickets, even during the
week. Clean theater. Less is More. They are a "mom & pop" operation as far
as I know. Here's their weekend line-up. Although I've seen th
Doesn't this whole issue point out the inadequacies of a city with a part time
administration?
Too many things are falling thru the cracks here, as they have for a very long
time.
For example, what is going on with The Metropolitan demolition? That building
is rapidly
falling apart...but what i
Hi Group members,
As a citizen and taxpayer, and not as a BOE member, I wanted you
to know that Danny McKee and the Little League parents are planning a
protest rally at the Little League field (6th Ave. at Memorial Dr.)
this coming Friday at 1:15 PM.
The new State monitor, Mr.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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I read the quotes I posted in a book called the 4 hour work week by
timothy ferriss, the book is loaded with great quotes.I highly
reccomend it.
I have not cu
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "John C. LiDestri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I read two interesting quotes the other day which relate to your
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Quotationspages.com has a great collection, including:
Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close th
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