[AsburyPark] Re: one more lastly: Fluff - Reality

2007-12-13 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "John C. LiDestri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > JD, You, dan and ALL the rest are needed, as is something in the form of the ESP. Infill can happen as well, THAT is where the plan should be. My wife has cousns in S. Beach in a little 2 bed and they love it. The

[AsburyPark] Re: Coaster Article on Esperanza Shutdown

2007-12-13 Thread jerseyjohn99
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, every private and public developer is hurting - depending where > they are in their cycle etc. > > The bank cut are doing little to help. > > But taking a look at Metro, they never had full crews on the project.

[AsburyPark] Re: one more lastly: Fluff - Reality

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "John C. LiDestri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It was also upsetting to see the generalizations that I read this > morning on a post about the people that would be attraced to this > building. That was gabrielle, the poor little rich girl faux hipster fai

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Johnson's Comments on Metro in the Coaster

2007-12-13 Thread Allan Peterson
Since there wasn't a performance bond, makes it easier to bail. - Original Message From: dfsavgny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 4:22:57 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Johnson's Comments on Metro in the Coaster --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: one more lastly: Fluff - Reality

2007-12-13 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 12/13/2007 9:01:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I really consider myself a very down to earth and caring person, to be stereotyped as someone that could give a shit about a community because of that fact that I can afford a luxury condo is distur

[AsburyPark] Re: one more lastly: Fluff - Reality

2007-12-13 Thread John C. LiDestri
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's continue bashing until John gets back his $$$ (if he wants): I am not exactly sure how to replyI find quite a bit of this funny, especially the name contest, on the other hand I feel very shaken and also sadden

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: As if life weren't depressing enough...

2007-12-13 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 12/13/2007 5:15:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW, I like that Sen Mitchell. I worked with him on the Deutsche Bank Bldg. He was the mediator between my client, the insurer, and DB and the Lower Manhattan Development Corp. A real class act. mayb

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Coaster Article on Esperanza Shutdown

2007-12-13 Thread lightgrw
oakdorf wrote: > > Gary, > > I think the steinbach building (which is a rental) has 38 vacancies. > Thats out of 63. > ** looks like there are 2 floors with about 3-4 apts rented. The person must have been in one of those areas. I just think that if the Steinbach's building is a hard s

[AsburyPark] Re: Coaster Article on Esperanza Shutdown

2007-12-13 Thread oakdorf
learn from the mistakes and fix them. > > Talk like that builds up defenses. One of the worst things in fighting with a spouse or partner is to go sleep on the couch. Make up sex is wonderful. > HAve you been in my house since last week? I got home at 2:30 am from AC last week at the stupid re

[AsburyPark] Re: Coaster Article on Esperanza Shutdown

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > True, but eventually accountability and results have to come into play > as well. Agreed. But, we have spent the better part of 6 years yelling at each other to no effect. I am not interesting in assessing blame. The tim

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Coaster Article on Esperanza Shutdown

2007-12-13 Thread MarioAPNJ
The Eighth Circle of Hell (Bolgia 9) is reserved for Sowers of Discord (28) The poets come to the edge of the ninth ditch, and look down at a parade of hideously mutilated souls. These are the SOWERS OF DISCORD, and just as their sin was to rend asunder what God had meant to be united, so

[AsburyPark] Re: Coaster Article on Esperanza Shutdown

2007-12-13 Thread oakdorf
Gary, I think the steinbach building (which is a rental) has 38 vacancies. Thats out of 63. I posted numbers back in August.Go to Steinbachbuilding.com you can see whats available. Yes, every private and public developer is hurting - depending where they are in their cycle etc. The bank cut

[AsburyPark] Re: Coaster Article on Esperanza Shutdown

2007-12-13 Thread justifiedright
Gary I'm sure folks can make reasonable arguments for one of the many different theories about what prompted Metro's actions (of course there is only one truth and only they know it; the rest of us are speculating). The issue I brought up is whether it's right to accuse someone of being "dis

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Coaster Article on Esperanza Shutdown

2007-12-13 Thread lightgrw
True, but eventually accountability and results have to come into play as well. If someone looked at the various condo projects in Asbury for the redevelopment for the first time and saw a few with limited residents, a few totally empty, and projects stalled... wouldn't that make them question

[AsburyPark] Re: Increases in Education Aid Range From 2 to 20 Percent

2007-12-13 Thread asburycheech
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The districts that would fare the worst under the plan are cities like > Newark, Asbury Park and Camden, each of which would receive a 2 percent increase. > _Increases in Education Aid Range From 2 to 20 Percent Under Corzine Pla

[AsburyPark] Re: Coaster Article on Esperanza Shutdown

2007-12-13 Thread Jack Pitzer
"A nation divided against itself cannot stand" --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > wrote: > > > > > > Then tell it to this guy: > > > > "If Councilman Loffredo and his supporters are blaming this > >

[AsburyPark] Re: Coaster Article on Esperanza Shutdown

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Then tell it to this guy: > > "If Councilman Loffredo and his supporters are blaming this > situation on the > state of housing market, they are being disingenuous at best," Keady > said. > > That's not exactly an

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Coaster Article on Esperanza Shutdown

2007-12-13 Thread lightgrw
Is it possible that Metro is also looking at the sales figures for some of the other projects like the Steinbach's building and blaming the housing market in Asbury Park as much or more than national housing problems. I'm not sure how many people have moved into places like the Steinbach's bui

[AsburyPark] Re: Coaster Article on Esperanza Shutdown

2007-12-13 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we are entering a period in which there is going to be great > thought by the City in how to move forward and right the wrongs of the > past. Thus, I suggest no more divide and conquer. Then tell it to this guy:

[AsburyPark] Re: Coaster Article on Esperanza Shutdown

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We have one voice of reason. Maybe this is the time to take advantage of > an opportunity. > I think we are entering a period in which there is going to be great thought by the City in how to move forward and right the wr

Re: [AsburyPark] Coaster Article on Esperanza Shutdown

2007-12-13 Thread lightgrw
From the article, Keady said: “The year-round community needs to benefit from the fact that Asbury Park needs to be a resort destination,” he said. “We need to go back to what worked in the past for Asbury Park.” He continued, “What worked in the past would work for it in the future.”

Re: [AsburyPark] Increases in Education Aid Range From 2 to 20 Percent

2007-12-13 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 12/13/2007 5:05:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And the interactive >>> _New Jersey School Districts - The New York Times_ (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2007/12/11/nyregion/20071212_JERSEY_GRAPHIC.html) If you put your mouse over

[AsburyPark] Re: Increases in Education Aid Range From 2 to 20 Percent

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> I don't know how this translates in real dollar terms. An optimistic spin > would be that since we get so much to start with, 2% isn't so bad. And > compared to what we would have received without the new formula. > Probably in

[AsburyPark] Re: As if life weren't depressing enough...

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7560358?MSNHPHCP>1=10734 > The guys were watching it here all day on tv. What's the big fuss? if these guys want to kill themselves let them. We let people smoke? BTW, I like that

[AsburyPark] Coaster Article on Esperanza Shutdown

2007-12-13 Thread James Keady
City Beachfront Project Put on Hold By JOANNE L. PAPAIANNI and ELLEN CARROLL After more than a year of planning and promotion the ambitious Esperanza luxury condominium complex on the Asbury Park beachfront is closing down production, at least temporarily. Dean Geibel, owner of Metro Homes and de

Re: [AsburyPark] As if life weren't depressing enough...

2007-12-13 Thread lightgrw
Interestingly, *Mitchell * called for tougher testing but said players should not be punished for “past misdeeds.” That's kind of how I feel too, although some of the steroids were most likely illegal in the United States. If that was the case then how do you really treat this situation on a h

[AsburyPark] Increases in Education Aid Range From 2 to 20 Percent

2007-12-13 Thread MarioAPNJ
The districts that would fare the worst under the plan are cities like Newark, Asbury Park and Camden, each of which would receive a 2 percent increase. _Increases in Education Aid Range From 2 to 20 Percent Under Corzine Plan - New York Times_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/13/nyregion/13

[AsburyPark] As if life weren't depressing enough...

2007-12-13 Thread justifiedright
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7560358?MSNHPHCP>1=10734 Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.c

[AsburyPark] Re: Shore Trivia for Foodies

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Whoops! Didn't see the rest of the answer. You're guy is right. My > fault. > You know I could have answered that right after Mario first posted it (even though I had no idea of the answer). I googled it but cou

[AsburyPark] Re: Shore Trivia for Foodies

2007-12-13 Thread justifiedright
Whoops! Didn't see the rest of the answer. You're guy is right. My fault. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No actually, that's wrong. > > The Lindy salad pre-dates Draughting table at the Shore by many > years. > > The restaurant that was k

[AsburyPark] Re: Shore Trivia for Foodies

2007-12-13 Thread justifiedright
No actually, that's wrong. The Lindy salad pre-dates Draughting table at the Shore by many years. The restaurant that was known for it was I believe in Neptune City. Name escapes me. Oak? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Best, only, and correct entry from

[AsburyPark] Re: Johnson's Comments on Metro in the Coaster

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Johnson also said that delays in construction of the Esperanza, due to > > waiting for CAFRA permits and having the state perform inspections > > instead of the city, may have impacted sales. Metro was not in pl

[AsburyPark] Re: Johnson's Comments on Metro in the Coaster

2007-12-13 Thread oakdorf
> > > > > Johnson also said that delays in construction of the Esperanza, due to > > waiting for CAFRA permits and having the state perform inspections > > instead of the city, may have impacted sales. > again, maybe they wanted to flip it and it failed. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visi

[AsburyPark] Re: Name that site contest

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Anyone care to judge which Circle Asbury Partners should go to? > > I say the Eighth, anything Bolgia 4 and above. An the decades long cycle of failed redevelopment has relegated AP to Acheron. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To

[AsburyPark] Re: Johnson's Comments on Metro in the Coaster

2007-12-13 Thread oakdorf
> > Johnson also said that delays in construction of the Esperanza, due to > waiting for CAFRA permits and having the state perform inspections > instead of the city, may have impacted sales. > > WRONG WRONG WRONG. PRICE PERCEPTION SALE APPROACH COMBINED WITH PRICE Another real builder told

[AsburyPark] Re: Name that site contest

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 12/13/2007 3:56:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Anyone care to judge which Circle Asbury Partners should go to? > > I say the Eighth, anything Bolgia 4 and above. Aaron goes i

[AsburyPark] Johnson's Comments on Metro in the Coaster

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
Councilman Ed Johnson said the shut down only highlights the need for a dispute resolution agreement for all development projects in the city. He said he believed all development projects in the city should be subject to performance guarantees and requirements and developers not meeting those requ

[AsburyPark] Maxie Update

2007-12-13 Thread Anthony Granito
Hi All - We hope your holiday season if off to an enjoyable start. We just wanted to give you the latest update on Maxie and thank you once again for your thoughts, prayers and help. I ran across a quote the other day from Pamela Dugdale that sums up our feelings for you all: Dogs bring out

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Name that site contest

2007-12-13 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 12/13/2007 3:56:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The inscription over the entranceway to hell in Dante's Divine Comedy. Surprisingly, next to Will S, Divine Comedy remains one of my students' favorites. It turned one of our football heroes int

[AsburyPark] Re: Name that site contest

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Or as an alternative > > > > "Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate" > > > > Very good. > > Leave every hope, those who enter > Abandon all (every) hope, ye who enter here The inscription over the entranceway to

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Name that site contest

2007-12-13 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 12/13/2007 3:45:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or as an alternative "Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate" Dante knew his shitake. But, sometimes this is just as effective: “You don't like it, take the gas pipe.”Uncle Abe, Radio Da

[AsburyPark] Re: Name that site contest

2007-12-13 Thread oakdorf
> Or as an alternative > > "Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate" > Very good. Leave every hope, those who enter Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*>

[AsburyPark] Re: Name that site contest

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > got it. > > technology is great. makes us look smart Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email |

[AsburyPark] Re: Name that site contest

2007-12-13 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw wrote: > > > > causa perdida > > > > And inscribed over the entryway (from my family's coat of arms) > > Futue te ipsum et caballum tuum > got it. technology is great.

[AsburyPark] Tax Sale

2007-12-13 Thread Allan Peterson
Tax sale list is on the city website. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

[AsburyPark] Re: Name that site contest

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw lightgrw@ wrote: > > > > causa perdida > > > > And inscribed over the entryway (from my family's coat of arms) > > Futue te ipsum et caballum tuum > Or as an alternative "L

[AsburyPark] Re: Name that site contest

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > causa perdida > And inscribed over the entryway (from my family's coat of arms) Futue te ipsum et caballum tuum

Re: [AsburyPark] Shore Trivia for Foodies

2007-12-13 Thread MarioAPNJ
Best, only, and correct entry from a non-member who reads here: Lindey Salad and it still on the DT [Draughting Table] menue. It was named after Lindy Sicliano who use to own Lindy"s Restaurant in Neptune City where Brennan"s Steak House is located today. Happy Holidaze! W00t, W0

Re: [AsburyPark] Name that site contest

2007-12-13 Thread lightgrw
causa perdida > __ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo!

[AsburyPark] Name that site contest

2007-12-13 Thread oakdorf
What if Ivanka comes to town? Or Paris? I have great name if they partner with me... NAME THE NEW ESPERANZA SITE CONTEST Beers on me plus $10: Order your t-shirts Take a pick: (I took "rayo" ) there's no hope of that no hay esperanza de eso I hope you're satisfied! ¡estarás contento! I

[AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too

2007-12-13 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan is right. > > AP should celebrate Hannukah. And I'd have no problem with that. However, to celebrate Christmas but ditch the name, that's a very different thing than not celebrating it at all. That's a deliberate

[AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too

2007-12-13 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > But how about the poor jewish cop, fireman or santitation guy? > Everyone thinks he's a failure. > Add to that the one trying to sell $800,000+ condos in AP instead of focusing on commercial stuff. You think my mot

[AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ditto - but why then the conscious decision to strike the name when > they admit in private email that Christmas is really the holiday? > > That's insulting to me. Why? You want the Christ put back in Christmas

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too

2007-12-13 Thread Allan Peterson
Well, maybe Asbury will change that like Walmart did. Last year or the year before they refused to say Christmas, this year it is a part of the slogan. - Original Message From: justifiedright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:30:33 P

[AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too

2007-12-13 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Curious, that $3k you're dropping - COULD any of those items be > purchased at shops in AP? Lots of it. > Celebrate as you wish. Ditto - but why then the conscious decision to strike the name when they admit in privat

[AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's why the Italians always want a Jewish accountant or attorney. > Nail on the head. My father would not even talk to an attorney if he wasn't Jewish. But how about the poor jewish cop, fireman or santitation guy? Ev

[AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too

2007-12-13 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > . But then again, > most of my clients are Jews so if I had to put Happy Hannukah I would. > > > Dan is right. AP should celebrate Hannukah. Well, at least a guess based on tax records. That's why the Italians always wa

[AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too

2007-12-13 Thread oakdorf
> > As I'm sure they find if funny that I complain about it but can do > nothing about it, but I note there is nothing they can do about my > droppoing $3,000 originally intended for AP in stores like Wal- Mart, > Costco and Target. > Damn, I'm trying to get my desk cleared off. Curious, tha

[AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He's on my crap list. > > Got this long email from him today about all the > Decemember "Holiday" events in AP, that was laced with quotes from > Christmas songs, even using the word "Merry," but he took great > pai

[AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too

2007-12-13 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Director of Good Times, Tom Gilmor... He's on my crap list. Got this long email from him today about all the Decemember "Holiday" events in AP, that was laced with quotes from Christmas songs, even using the w

[AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Director of Good Times, Tom Gilmor said in one of his email blasts that beach bages would be for sale for hoiliday gifts. Not sure what ever happened to that. Maybe the same person who controls the city website

Re: [AsburyPark] Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too

2007-12-13 Thread Allan Peterson
The Director of Good Times, Tom Gilmor said in one of his email blasts that beach bages would be for sale for hoiliday gifts. Not sure what ever happened to that. Maybe the same person who controls the city website also dropped the ball on this. - Original Message From: justifiedr

[AsburyPark] Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too

2007-12-13 Thread justifiedright
Belmar hopes shoppers will give the gift of sun and sand By ERIK LARSEN COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU Forget Christmas and Hanukkah: Memorial Day weekend is just 164 days away, and that means 2008 beach badges are now on sale at borough hall for 2007 prices. For at least 10 years, the borough has b

[AsburyPark] Re: one more lastly: Fluff - Reality

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's continue bashing until John gets back his $$$ (if he wants): This is what is filed against the Metro parcel. North Fork has a $9M+ mortgage. The mortgage to partners is really the $4.5M infrastructure fees and the 7%

[AsburyPark] Re: one more lastly: Let's All Pile On

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's continue bashing until John gets back his $$$ (if he wants): This is what is filed against the parcel. The mortgage to North Fork is for $9+M. The mortgage to Partners is really the $4.5 infrastructure costs and the

[AsburyPark] Re: my last.. On "The Tipping Point"

2007-12-13 Thread oakdorf
--- GIVE BACK THE MONEY IN ESCROW. ESCROW. THAT MEANS IT'S HELD IN T-R-U-S-T for SPECIFIC PERFORMANCE Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: my last.. On "The Tipping Point"

2007-12-13 Thread Allan Peterson
Hold up and lets get the facts correct. I don't recall being a big cheerleader for Metro. I liked the building design, and the ad campaign. However when conditions changed and they did not, I posted a warning that they are going too far. I agree something else is at play and I would be surpr

[AsburyPark] Re: one more lastly: Fluff - Reality

2007-12-13 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote: > > > > "...with thousands of condominiums linging New Jersey neighborhoods to > > their credit, Metro Homes has spent the last 15 years" > > > > Thousands?? Wha

[AsburyPark] Re: one more lastly: Fluff - Reality

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "...with thousands of condominiums linging New Jersey neighborhoods to > their credit, Metro Homes has spent the last 15 years" > > Thousands?? What's that, one, two or three? > > several meant three or more, according

[AsburyPark] Re: And lastly...

2007-12-13 Thread Jack Pitzer
It's the Asbury Partners way of doing things. 1) Forget about restoring everything that made the area unique...tear it down 2) Put up crappy little signs with ugly fonts telling everybody how your city is being transformed into a "Jewel by the SeaAt No Cost to You" (that should shut them up

[AsburyPark] Re: And lastly...

2007-12-13 Thread Jack Pitzer
It's the Asbury Partners way of doing things. 1) Forget about restoring everything that made the area unique...tear it down 2) Put up crappy little signs with ugly fonts telling everybody how your city is being transformed into a "Jewel by the SeaAt No Cost to You" (that should shut them up

[AsburyPark] from Norman Sturner - Murray Hill Properties

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
He continued: "The extraordinary real estate financing of the past seven years has allowed marginal and sometimes part time investors to increase pricing and competition to unsustainable levels, with very little capital to lose. Now that the financing market has tightened, I believe we shall see op

[AsburyPark] one more lastly: Fluff

2007-12-13 Thread oakdorf
"...with thousands of condominiums linging New Jersey neighborhoods to their credit, Metro Homes has spent the last 15 years" Thousands?? What's that, one, two or three? several meant three or more, according to Mrs. Tashlik in 9th grade. If you use the "thousands" you must define it.

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: And lastly...

2007-12-13 Thread lightgrw
dfsavgny wrote: I am simply amazed at development down in here at the Shore. I have never, never seen projects move so slow with too small crews. I don't know, for some reason Asbury Park moves MUCH SLOWER than everywhere else. I realize that a lot of these projects are much bigger in scale b

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: my last.. On "The Tipping Point"

2007-12-13 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 12/13/2007 10:15:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hope the city directs its focus on the Cookman area. And Main St corridor -- highly visible to all. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-r

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: And lastly...

2007-12-13 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 12/13/2007 11:09:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If the developer makes a pledge to do something as part of a redevelopment designation and doesn't do it, the city can declare the developer in violation of the redevelopment agreement, and rescind

[AsburyPark] Re: And lastly...

2007-12-13 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There are some newer better ones there. Some you could post here and > think you were talking about AP. Here's one I really like: > I saw all those as well. All you have to do is cut and paste and change the town to

[AsburyPark] Re: And lastly...

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > from the hoboken411.com (http://hoboken411.com/?p=9660&cp=1#comments_ > > There are some newer better ones there. Some you could post here and think you were talking about AP. Here's one I really like: "Not true Homeworl

[AsburyPark] Re: Getting Rid of Partners

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > and rid of Metro. > > Mr. G also has an LLC in Hobo called Threesome Partners LLC. > > Threesome? > > And for Dan, he supports Rudy for pres No. I hated him as mayor. That Rudy is one, if not the, frontrunner for the

[AsburyPark] Re: my last.. On "The Tipping Point"

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Metro collapse should not come as a shock to anyone. As I stated before you can not advertise out of a slump. I did not understand the business model of heavy advertising and promotions with nothing to sell com

[AsburyPark] Re: And lastly...

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dean Geibel > should have stuck to small, four-storey buildings in Hoboken where he > can pal around with his Lil’ Buddy Dave Roberts. See ‘ya later Metro > Homes! Have fun blaming the mortgage crunch! When they first

[AsburyPark] Re: Getting Rid of Partners

2007-12-13 Thread oakdorf
and rid of Metro. Mr. G also has an LLC in Hobo called Threesome Partners LLC. Threesome? And for Dan, he supports Rudy for pres Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | T

[AsburyPark] Re: my last.. On "The Tipping Point"

2007-12-13 Thread oakdorf
---maybe Metro should show real good faith and dedication to AP and offer complete refunds PLUS to those that showed good faith in their marketing. Maybe his kids could learn to play on REAL GRASS and learn to get dirty. That's how you learn to play. Not artifically. Yahoo! Groups Links

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: my last.. On "The Tipping Point"

2007-12-13 Thread Allan Peterson
The Metro collapse should not come as a shock to anyone. As I stated before you can not advertise out of a slump. I did not understand the business model of heavy advertising and promotions with nothing to sell combined with a depressed market. By the way, you had to love the last release t

[AsburyPark] Re: Getting Rid of Partners

2007-12-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If you don't sell something for a couple years, what do you - stick > with it hoping 80 more people show up? The ESP being "on hold" may be > the best at selling anything at at Wesley. I heard lawyers have been calling

[AsburyPark] And lastly...

2007-12-13 Thread oakdorf
from the hoboken411.com (http://hoboken411.com/?p=9660&cp=1#comments_ Trump ruined a lot of small contractors in Atlantic City, way back during the Trump Taj Mahal debacle. I’m sure he couldn’t care less about Metro Homes and will take them down easily as well. Dean Geibel should have stuck t

[AsburyPark] Lyndhurst - EnCap , Trump, Redvelopment

2007-12-13 Thread oakdorf
Read this: Homeworld, Trump is out on that deal too, and he was not the developer just an investor after the fact. The Endcap project was terminated by the town. Check this quote from Lyndhurst Mayor Richard DiLascio, too bad our Mayor Quimby does not have balls like this guy. “Before Donald T

[AsburyPark] Asbury Park police warn residents to lock their cars after break-ins

2007-12-13 Thread Jack Pitzer
ASBURY PARK — Police are warning residents to lock their cars after a string of vehicle burglaries in the city. Thieves stole handbags and a credit card from three vehicles in various parts of the city between 2 p.m. and 9 p.m. on Tuesday, Detective Capt. David Kelso said. In each instance t

[AsburyPark] Re: from city web site

2007-12-13 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Events for 12/14/2007 > "...of a financial nature" The NJ Lottery is up to $130 million. I think they should vote to buy one ticket or a couple thousand. Maybe the governers office should buy them as well. If they wi

[AsburyPark] Re: to the point

2007-12-13 Thread oakdorf
> > Point Pleasant has all these things and more, the one thing Point > Pleasant doesn't have is an inner city population > and all the good bad and ugly that comes with the inner city blues. > Chief among them, riots, violent crime, gangs, > drugs, prostitutes. But the biggest difference today

[AsburyPark] from city web site

2007-12-13 Thread Traderdube
Events for 12/14/2007 Start Time9:00 AM Title Council Meeting Location Council Chambers Extra Details December 11, 2007 City Desk: Please be advised that the Mayor and Council of the City of Asbury Park will hold a Special Meeting on Friday, December 14, 2007, at 9:00 AM in the City of Asbur

[AsburyPark] to the point

2007-12-13 Thread Traderdube
The mighty oak went on" Point has kiddie rides. Point has rental housing. Point has motels. Point is "clean". Point feels safe. Point has Martells. Point has Pepsi sponsoring. Point has entertainment. Point has weekly fireworks." Point Pleasant has all these things and more, the one thing Poi