[AsburyPark] gun shot for the record

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[AsburyPark] Re: unsold condos...

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[AsburyPark] unsold condos...

Hadn't looked in a long time, but tax records for N Beach sow around 80 units in Paramounts name. Not sure how many of those remain unfinished, rented by them, or finished and vacant. SO more then half "unsold". that does little for you. I think I saw a 2 bed there going for 309k. That unit,

[AsburyPark] Re: Pony, WB, Tillie, Istar etc

How much of North Beach is unsold? Because I never see many lights in that place. And there are a couple of units I keep an eye on (bc they are comps of my place, sort of) and they have seriously been on/off the market for 3 years. I am considering turning my place into a rental bc I can't sell.

[AsburyPark] Re: Will it Stay or Will it Go...

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" wrote: > > I'm sure we can all recall what happened when it was proposed to tear down > the club in 2002: > http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/stone-pony-faces-demolition-20020111 > > My concerns are the same as yours. The wording in the rec

[AsburyPark] Re: Will it Stay or Will it Go...

I'm sure we can all recall what happened when it was proposed to tear down the club in 2002: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/stone-pony-faces-demolition-20020111 My concerns are the same as yours. The wording in the recommendation is an open invitation to begin the process of abandoning

[AsburyPark] Re: Will it Stay or Will it Go...

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[AsburyPark] Re: Fwd: Pay Parking Downtown

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[AsburyPark] Will it Stay or Will it Go...

I'm concerned by some misinterpretations that have cropped up in the discussion of the Stone Pony. As the Plan and Contract currently stand, the Stone Pony is flagged as a building to be retained on a Conditional basis. That being - it continues to remain open and used as an entertainment venue

[AsburyPark] Pony, WB, Tillie, Istar etc

The "Brands" The Stone Pony. In the first Bankrutpcy filing and sale, the arguments were for the name , the annex and online use. At least I thought so. It is a "brand". the original location is where it is but "a look and feel" could be duped. I know, it and other "real clubs" can't get tha

[AsburyPark] Fwd: Pay Parking Downtown

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[AsburyPark] Jones Beach v Casino

Having grown up on Long Island and been a 'rail-rat' at Central Mall of Jones Beach during my youth, I have to comment on how ridiculous it is to propose that the Stone Pony could be like the Jones Beach Theater. Jones Beach State Park is 10,000 acres of mostly wilderness with the Theater being

[AsburyPark] Re: The Plan...

I think you will see some building within the next year or so if things don't go haywire. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" wrote: > > No one really answered the question I posed first thing this morning-ish re: > The Plan. When do people think the first couple of blocks will

[AsburyPark] Furnished studio for sublet

Hi List. A tenant in my house is looking to sublet for the the winter (roughly Oct 1 - May 1). He is asking $800 (negotiable) for the furnished studio (pictures below).  Price includes heat, hotwater, electric, gas, cable and wifi.   Furnishing includes flat screen TV, couch, bed etc.  Interest

[AsburyPark] Re: The Plan...

I just have to look at "The Esperanza" to tell me that endless discussion will result in no progress in the foreseeable future. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids wrote: > > 25 years.. > > > *Satisfied Customers on Receipt - Worldwide* > Claire Davids > Managing Partner > i-P

Re: [AsburyPark] The Plan...

25 years.. *Satisfied Customers on Receipt - Worldwide* Claire Davids Managing Partner i-Parcel LLC Tel: +12015491502 Mobile: +16464316239 www.i-parcel.com On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:28 PM, fancypaaantz wrote: > ** > > > No one really answered the question I posed first thing this morning-

[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

Hinge, here is my solution: Buy my house (I will give you a good deal, certainly less than I paid for it 7 years ago) and you get room for up to 3 cars off street! :-) (Offer also open to anyone else) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the w

[AsburyPark] The Plan...

No one really answered the question I posed first thing this morning-ish re: The Plan. When do people think the first couple of blocks will be developed as set forth in The Plan, how many years? 10 years? 20 years? Never? I have 23 years left on my mortgage, what will AP look like then I wonder?

[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

Thanks :) But I love my home. It has an amazing window seat that makes me very happy. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" wrote: > > Hinge, here is my solution: Buy my house (I will give you a good deal, > certainly less than I paid for it 7 years ago) and you get room for up to 3

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

There is no logical rebuttal to that Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Hinge" Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:23:24 To: Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking I feel like I'm

[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here. Here's my final thought (sorry to repeat myself). On Friday night, a friend is coming over to play Scrabble. My street is nothing but potholes and empty parking spaces. She has 2 choices, pay $3 to park out front on an empty street, or park around the c

[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

Than the city should just switch the designation between Labor Day and Memorial Day to "Resident Parking Only" for the 200 blocks. In the winter, I doubt people would want to walk an extra block or two rather than park near the venue they intend to visit. Why should the 200 block residents even

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

Not sure about that, although Cookman is bustling in the Winter months, the waterfront hardly fills the spaces Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Claire Davids Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:11:52 To: Reply-To: AsburyPark@

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

But if you did that then people would just start parking there instead of the paid areas and you'd be back to the no parking scenario. *Satisfied Customers on Receipt - Worldwide* Claire Davids Managing Partner i-Parcel LLC Tel: +12015491502 Mobile: +16464316239 www.i-parcel.com On Tue, Sep 2

[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

All I'd like to see is one simple thing. Suspend paid parking on the 200 blocks between Labor Day and Memorial Day. I can live with the issues during the summer. But being asked to pay to park on an empty residential block is absolutely absurd. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wr

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

Well logically speaking this should happen where there is paid parking I do not have paid parking in my neighborhood, so there is no use for residential permits Even more logical, for those speaking of Cookman, would be to build a parking deck accessible to everyone all the time (not like the c

[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

I checked, it is citywide essentially. And I see a problem. There are non-resident permits as well for $300 limited to one vehicle. A resident permit requires you to register your car in JC. I am an honest person. AP is not my permanent address for tax purposes not to run afoul of NYS. It will n

[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

Is it city-wide in residential neighborhoods like Hoboken? Then all share the burden. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: > > When I lived in Jersey City there was NEVER issues, its a proven method > > Again, inquire with other cities like have done. It works > > > Se

[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

Are you doing it citywide? Because if you are not, then we are not sharing the burden. You will simply shift those visitors to another block. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: > > Visitor parking is not the issue, its residential that's the issue. > > Give me a bad rep

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

Issue with resident only parking on public streets is some of the weekend folks. If you take a look on cookman at some of the cars parked, they have flyers on them and some of those flyers are a week old, what that means to me is weekend residents are parking in public streets for days when they'r

[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

My point, reserve spaces on your block so when there is the demand present that leaves you with no spaces, those excess cars (visitors) go go to the next block perhaps. That causes residents on that block not to be able to park (the number displaced by the excess cars) and now they have the same

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

When I lived in Jersey City there was NEVER issues, its a proven method Again, inquire with other cities like have done. It works Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "dfsavgny" Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:33:31 To: Reply

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

Visitor parking is not the issue, its residential that's the issue. Give me a bad repercussion of having resident parking only spaces Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "dfsavgny" Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:24:14 To:

[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

Why not reserve spaces for residents only on my block? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > Why curtail the hours when there is zero demand? > I would have bought the permit if the city designated a number of spaces > "Resident Parking Only". > > Wouldn't it make sense for th

[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

Perhaps I do not understand you because unless you make Hinge's block resident only, it does not solve the problem. If its meter or permit, when there are events, Hinge cant park even though he has a permit. If you make it permit only, you lose revenue or you have that problem on another block w

[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

When I lived in Edgewater, a resident parking permit was $5. The signage was clear. It kept people away from my neighborhood who wanted to use the Ferry without paying, which was the only competition we residents ever had for parking. And the city collected fines for those who didn't pay attenti

[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

Why curtail the hours when there is zero demand? I would have bought the permit if the city designated a number of spaces "Resident Parking Only". Wouldn't it make sense for the city to have done a parking survey first? Find out how many residents park in the designated area, and reserve spaces

[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

That holds promise but I think residents should have to pay in the beachfront, cookman, etc. Parking is never free (always has a cost) even if its not charged for. Hogging spaces so customers can never park and frequent businesses. But even implementing some sort of resident parking has issues.

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

All the city needed to do was inquire with other cities in NJ I did some research on this when you first brought up the topic I found ONE municipality that has parking meters, AND charges their residents the way AP does. 30+ other cities/towns that have meters followed the same guidelines, whic

[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

Tough one, but I am probably leaning towards relaxing in that area off season or curtailing the hours BUT if that's done and during a concert at the Pony there's no spaces on your block what will you say? This is my entire point about the compatibility/incompatibility of uses. Residences near or

[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

"designated area" - That's been my argument all along. Thanks for reinforcing that. If I bought the $30 permit this summer, it would have been useless during Summer Stage events, or busy weekend days. All it would do would hold me hostage in a parking space on my block. My next door neighbor, w

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

I do not believe in paid parking for residents unless it is a $15 year round permit just like every other city in NJ does, pay for a sticker, be able to park in a designated area Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Hinge" Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.c

[AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking

Thanks for posting this. I read it yesterday. Since we're talking about parking ( I know I'm annoying with this topic), what do you or does anybody else feel about keeping year round until midnight paid parking on the 200 blocks west of Kingsley? My answer is easy. Take a drive to my block, 1st

[AsburyPark] Reflections on Parking

>From NYT Reflections on a Parking Meter By CLYDE HABERMAN Not to make too much of a relatively minor event, but when Manhattan's last old-time parking meter was yanked down on Monday, it meant the end of a symbolic target for some rebe

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

yes since there's nothing there --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: > > Are we planning a "new" area though? > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: "dfsavgny" > Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

Are we planning a "new" area though? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "dfsavgny" Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:47:38 To: Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure? Bui

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

Built 1914. The first zoning laws in the US were put in place in 1916 in NYC and were a direct result of the building of 120 Broadway. Dont start with stadiums. I have a lot of experience with those having been involved in killing Jets Stadium in Manhattan. LAND GRAB. Do you really believe that

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

Ever been to Wrigleyville? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "dfsavgny" Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:15:37 To: Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure? Point taken. Y

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

I personally feel the outdoor stage should be eliminated very soon anyway. Those shows aren't true Stone Pony shows. They're parking lot shows next to the Stone Pony. The real Stone Pony shows are the ones that use the stage and the venue itself. There are ways to soundproof the venue and

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > . But who would not want a 1st class outdoor theater on the beachfront as part of the Casino rebuilding? People that live in OG Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

Thanks Dan for your time, expertise and responses. In the meantime, I'm gonna enjoy what's here today. Hopefully I-Star creates a great combination for the future, incorporating the bits and pieces of AP past into the concept. And they have to. Yahoo

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

Point taken. You know that the outdoor summer stage days are numbered when that can be developed with residences. That's a given no matter what the plan says short of it has to stay. You tell folks that they are moving next to an entertainment use, bar etc, and they say yeah okay and its another

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

To me the idea of an outdoor concert stage is bad for businees anyway... at least for the business of the venue itself. I've attended quite a few "Stone Pony concerts" at Watermark, Langosta, and the boardwalk benches. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > I live at Asbur

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

Any concert venue at the Casino would be in a newly built arena portion, which is to look and feel like the old. That would mean the concert venue is indoors and likely sound proofed. The only venue I can think of that in the future would be an outdoor performance space would be the Arthur Pry

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

I live at Asbury and Bond and hear nothing during the concerts. But who would not want a 1st class outdoor theater on the beachfront as part of the Casino rebuilding? Jones Beach Theatre is not too shabby. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: > > That is something I can

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

Thanks Dan. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > asburyplanningatgmaildotcom > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > > The committee's summary was to be available on the city website: > > cityofasburypark.com. The planning department is seeking additi

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

http://www.app.com/article/20110919/NJNEWS/309190060/Park-use-urged-tract-Asbury --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > asburyplanningatgmaildotcom > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > > The committee's summary was to be available on the city website:

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

That is something I can get on board with... I personally don't feel as if moving the outdoor stage to the Casino site is going to make a difference with the sound. As this seems to be the main concern If no one believes me, grab yourself a 6pk and head to my backyard during any Summer Stag

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

asburyplanningatgmaildotcom --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > The committee's summary was to be available on the city website: > cityofasburypark.com. The planning department is seeking additional > feedback and comments until Sept. 30. Those comments can be emailed to >

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

The committee's summary was to be available on the city website: cityofasburypark.com. The planning department is seeking additional feedback and comments until Sept. 30. Those comments can be emailed to asburyplanning@gmail. com

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

I do not want to say you are wasting your time making comments here, but if you are in lieu of making written comments to the committee then you are in fact wasting an opportunity to be heard. No one is drowning out your voices. Please make all comments to the committee in writing (and here if y

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

Could you fix that email address? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > Please send your comments in in writing. You are preaching to the choir. The > official venue is > > The committee's summary was to be available on the city website: > cityofasburypark.com. The plann

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

Please send your comments in in writing. You are preaching to the choir. The official venue is The committee's summary was to be available on the city website: cityofasburypark.com. The planning department is seeking additional feedback and comments until Sept. 30. Those comments can be emaile

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

I live a block away from the Stone Pony and have no problem with the Summer Stage events, other than unruly patrons wandering around residential neighborhoods. On the other hand, the Sunday night dance parties at Paradise are incredibly loud and they aren't always very good neighbors about it. I

[AsburyPark] Re: Committee Meeting

Thanks, where can mail/email be sent specifically? Once again, pardon my ignorance on this point. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > Your issues are addressed in my other replies. What we are talking about is > the Stone Pony outdoor stage. > > You are all wasting your

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

It's no question that the summer stage should move eventually (personally I hope sooner than later) and the rebuilt Casino Arena portion would make a great "Stone Pony Theatre" where large Stone Pony concerts could be held. But the original building should never be considered for relocation. My

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

Well since the Pony and all that property is privately owned we (you, me, city) cant tell them what to do with it. But I think its our recommendation that the summer stage move eventually. I see no problem with interior performance spaces on Ocean with residences if you soundproof them. Personal

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

So is leaving the Pony as is, for indoor entertainment (non summer stage usage) and building a Summer stage on the casino site (strictly outdoor usage) an option being discussed? Or is the Pony not going to be used as a music venue at all, and all Pony entertainment being moved to Casino site?

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

I do not think its clear from the recommendations. And I think it was the concerns I had which is the incompatibility of intense entertainment and residential uses on the same site(s). The City learned its lesson as well on that with Cookman. That's why proper zoning specifies uses etc in certai

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

Oak, you missed the point. It is ALL prime real estate, most of which has been vacant for years and years. My concern that I expressed is the pattern of removing viable businesses with empty lots. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote: > > The Big Dig. > > tunnel it. > > or rais

[AsburyPark] Re: Committee Meeting

Personally I think it will be a long time if ever that all the units will be built. My opinion has not changed in 7 years. Again, remember that the Plan has nothing to do (nor can it) with timeframes etc. That is in the Deal. I only wish I could change that. But I will tell you all as a real est

[AsburyPark] Re: Committee Meeting

Your issues are addressed in my other replies. What we are talking about is the Stone Pony outdoor stage. You are all wasting your time commenting here. Written comments will be accepted by the city till September 30. Get cracking. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" wrote: > >

[AsburyPark] Re: Committee Meeting

I think you do have to go back and read it. At the end of the day, the changes, and I can think of more changes in my mind brought out at the meeting, will result in a lower number of units that can be built. I dont know why everyone cannot understand that we all (committee, council and citizen

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

The Big Dig. tunnel it. or raise the "plaza". How much would that be worth by vacating streets and does the city get any $. And if the character of the Pony were recreated, either at current site in a new, safer building, would that be so bad? If springsteen were to play in a "new" pony, wo

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

Is there a reason or clarification as to why the Stone Pony was viewed as removable from the site? (pardon my ignorance if this has already been explained, but in the report I couldn't find reasoning behind this move) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyP

[AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" wrote: > > Rather than attack i will ask dan what the reason for the Cookman avenue > closure is? at first blush i don't agree with it either but perhaps there is > a logical reason. Dan can you please comment? > Thank you > If you were at the meeti

[AsburyPark] Re: Committee Meeting

The fact is the Palcace, Albion Hotel, Charms building, and many others that could have potentially been rehabilitated were torn down only to be still vacant lots. Though there are arguments as to whether or not these buildings were structurally sound, the fact is these buildings were still sta

[AsburyPark] Reason for Cookman ave closure?

Rather than attack i will ask dan what the reason for the Cookman avenue closure is? at first blush i don't agree with it either but perhaps there is a logical reason. Dan can you please comment? Thank you Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on

[AsburyPark] Re: Committee Meeting

Putting the specifics of the plan aside, which I have now reviewed, has anyone ever mentioned a time frame? When do people think that the plan will be fully realized (if ever). 20 years? I am not trying to be argumentative here, I am curious to hear whether people in this group (1) think these b