[AsburyPark] Re: Committee Meeting

2011-09-21 Thread arcman210
I've notified Preservation NJ about the recent developments, and today they updated their listing for the Stone Pony (can be found on their website) and are monitoring the situation regarding the news of talk of possible relocation. Every little bit helps, especially when it comes to spreading

[AsburyPark] Re: Real Estate

2011-09-21 Thread oakdorf
yea, thought of you when I read that piece of it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" wrote: > > "There is probably not another town in Monmouth County where are > found more optimists than right here in our City and it is this optimism that > has made the City what it is." That i

[AsburyPark] Re: Real Estate

2011-09-21 Thread fancypaaantz
"There is probably not another town in Monmouth County where are found more optimists than right here in our City and it is this optimism that has made the City what it is." That is true! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote: > > ...It is always wise to buy real estate especially

[AsburyPark] Real Estate

2011-09-21 Thread oakdorf
...It is always wise to buy real estate especially so if you want a home First select town and if it fills the requirements of ideals of what a home town should be then buy a home in that locality We believe we have all the qualities that make for home town The time to purchase is right Disturbe

[AsburyPark] Re: Committee Meeting

2011-09-21 Thread wernerapnj
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > > > > > > Your issues are addressed in my other replies. What we are talking > > > > about is the Stone Pony outdoor stage. > > > > While this group may be discussing the outdoor stage ... That is NOT what is being referred to

[AsburyPark] Re: Committee Meeting

2011-09-21 Thread wernerapnj
This posting is inaccurate... The document referred to is.. the Advisory Committee Recommendations. Not the Redevelopment Plan The Redevelopment Plan is at http://cityofasburypark.com/pdfs/March_15_Redevelopment_Plan_Amended_120105.pdf Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "larrybertore

[AsburyPark] Re: Committee Meeting

2011-09-21 Thread larrybertorelli
Comments are due by September 30th. Redevelopment Plan: http://www.cityofasburypark.com/pdfs/DRAFT_WRP_Committee_landuse_Sept2011.pdf Powerpoint Presentation: http://www.cityofasburypark.com/pdfs/Waterfront_Committee_Presentation_Sept2011.pdf Submit Comments via Email to: asburyplann...@gmail.c

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New gang tags appearing around the city

2011-09-21 Thread cbrianwatkins
Does that guy sing/talk to himself when he's riding? I have a guy who is similar with the biking around and dealing, he is very blatant about it, lives a few houses away on Comstock, kinda in an alleyway type thing Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "

[AsburyPark] screw economists

2011-09-21 Thread dfsavgny
Experts forecast five years of doom and gloom for U.S. housing market September 21, 2011 04:30PM [alternate text] More than 100 economists, real estate experts and investment strategists projected the path of the S&P/Case-Shiller U.S. National Home Price Index over the next five years. And the

[AsburyPark] Re: New gang tags appearing around the city

2011-09-21 Thread Hinge
Bergh between AP Ave. and 1st has always been a hotspot. Lot's of discarded condoms laying in the guitar. The Delmonte Hotel across from me seems to be becoming a hot spot for drug dealing. There's an older guy who's been making drug runs on his vintage bicycle recently, and he's blatant about

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New gang tags appearing around the city

2011-09-21 Thread cbrianwatkins
Same here, although I don't gives cars who park on my side street 5mins, they get 2mins I'm on a corner lot, and they like to bring their tricks around when it is dark, we have called so many times for that, we have noticed the johns/tricks have moved to Pine Street (btwn 5th and Sunset) so now

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New gang tags appearing around the city

2011-09-21 Thread cbrianwatkins
Yes I would, give them exactly what you just ssaid and the best descriptions possible Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Claire Davids Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 15:43:10 To: Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject:

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New gang tags appearing around the city

2011-09-21 Thread Claire Davids
My husband and I were walking down Emory between 6th and 7th a few weeks back with my 5 year old. A black SUV stopped in the middle of 6th on the corner of Emory and a guy jumped out right in fromt of us and tucked something into the back of his pants and when running purposefully down the road to

[AsburyPark] Re: New gang tags appearing around the city

2011-09-21 Thread dfsavgny
exactly what you saw. If you stand in front of my house for more than 5 minutes I am on the phone with the cops. Let god sort them out. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids wrote: > > My husband and I were walking down Emory between 6th and 7th a few weeks > back with my 5 year old

[AsburyPark] Re: New gang tags appearing around the city

2011-09-21 Thread fancypaaantz
Thanks, now I feel better! Demonstrating one of our town negatives :) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: > > It is my understanding that this a Bloods Sect, they run out of AP and Neptune > > I can find out more from a friend > > My fiance had 4 guys taken in the other d

Re: [AsburyPark] New gang tags appearing around the city

2011-09-21 Thread cbrianwatkins
It is my understanding that this a Bloods Sect, they run out of AP and Neptune I can find out more from a friend My fiance had 4 guys taken in the other day. They parked a car at the corner of my street (in front of my house), the 4 guys (not kids) got out, placed the hoods on their sweatshirts

[AsburyPark] New gang tags appearing around the city

2011-09-21 Thread Hinge
Has anybody noticed the new gang tags that have been appearing around the city recently? At Library Square Park, somebody spray painted "MDP" at each of the trash containers at the 4 corners of the park. What is "MDP? MDP is short for "Murder Dem Pussies" This same tag is spreading fast. There

[AsburyPark] Re: unsold condos...

2011-09-21 Thread fancypaaantz
I have to agree on this point. I set my own alarm off once and didn't get to the phone fast enough, as I was on the phone with the alarm company telling them that it was a false alarm, the APPD were coming up the driveway. If I have any criticism, once I said "oh, I am so sorry, I set it off mys

[AsburyPark] Re: Boutique Hotel in the Casino spot

2011-09-21 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > But remember the issue of the need to pay for infrastructure. > > > > > > How is that now being defined? > The simple fact of the matter is that the city does not ha

[AsburyPark] Re: Boutique Hotel in the Casino spot

2011-09-21 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: It seems to me that MM is in a hunker down mode. > seems like i-star will have to un-hunker them. If they get in the way, dissolve the partnership - either $$$ or legally. If not, you'll wind up with them stalling something. Wonder what

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Boutique Hotel in the Casino spot

2011-09-21 Thread cbrianwatkins
Again, can't argue with that Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "oakdorf" Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:33:21 To: Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Boutique Hotel in the Casino spot --- In As

[AsburyPark] Re: Boutique Hotel in the Casino spot

2011-09-21 Thread dfsavgny
The outside authority is not the issue. They have stopped a virtual kidnapping of the local school system from what I read but I am not that up to date with it. Seems to me that good people tried to make changes here and got rebuffed because of their sexual orientation. Seemed to be a lot of cr

[AsburyPark] Re: Boutique Hotel in the Casino spot

2011-09-21 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > But remember the issue of the need to pay for infrastructure. > > How is that now being defined? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/g

[AsburyPark] Re: Boutique Hotel in the Casino spot

2011-09-21 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: Like everything else of importance in AP, control of this is held by "outside" authority. > unfortunately,it hasn't been able to run to well from "inside" authority. neither has the housing authority. Dan should change his resi

[AsburyPark] Re: Boutique Hotel in the Casino spot

2011-09-21 Thread dfsavgny
The waterfront redevelopment plan is for the waterfront. The Springwood Avenue Plan is for that area and hopefully there will be more. I hear you about discussing it privately but no need. I am dealing with the plan as the plan for the waterfront area period. As I said, the best developments are

[AsburyPark] Re: unsold condos...

2011-09-21 Thread oakdorf
as for short sales, your story is real. Unfortunately, once you get in trouble, people longer around that want to buy, but if they can hold out, then they do. It's all the loopholes that your lawyers legally use to wipe out your loss with little or no obligaiton - either tax wise (as a gain). th

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Boutique Hotel in the Casino spot

2011-09-21 Thread cbrianwatkins
The other thing is the schools. Yes its great that parents are walking their kids and getting more involved. The problem is that our school district is run by the state. We could have 3000 families move into AP this weekend, all of which could have very intelligent children, and it still wouldn

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Boutique Hotel in the Casino spot

2011-09-21 Thread cbrianwatkins
I understand how it works, lived through it myself, almost identically to you. (In CT, not NY or NJ) However, nothing done thus far in the waterfront area has taken the West Side families into consideration Ill take this discussion with you further in private, but not here Sent from my Verizon

[AsburyPark] Re: Boutique Hotel in the Casino spot

2011-09-21 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: > > Being that AP's gentrification plans exclude actual families with children, Its chicken and an egg. You won't get families with children until the schools are okay. ANd you will not get good schools until you get families in her

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: unsold condos...

2011-09-21 Thread cbrianwatkins
The quickest response time I've ever seen. Called them on Sunday for a domestic dispute. They were there with 3 cars, and had the father cuffed before I could get back into my yard Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "dfsavgny" Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogr

[AsburyPark] Re: unsold condos...

2011-09-21 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Bob Loblaw wrote: > > the city government makes AP an undespireable place to live. > EVERYTHING in AP is about revenue. my drug dealing neighbors get off scott > free despite the whole neighborhood complaining, becuase the cops are too > busy issuing tickets to

[AsburyPark] Re: Boutique Hotel in the Casino spot

2011-09-21 Thread dfsavgny
Good points but the CAFRA permit can be amended. I do not see a hotel there. I do agree Esperanza is a natural hotel site but also the slated hotel site proximate to the Carousel is optimum. The Casino as rebuilt can house many uses, recreation, restaurants, banquet hall, markets, museums, theat

[AsburyPark] Re: Boutique Hotel in the Casino spot

2011-09-21 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" wrote: > > I think the old Casino shell that extends over the water would be a great > place for a boutique hotel. With other uses in the Casino building and part > that connects with the Carousel. > > 3 Floor high - Each room could have a balcony

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: unsold condos...

2011-09-21 Thread Claire Davids
are you paying property tax on the $600k or the $300k? just curious. i don't agree AP is an undesirable place to live though, it just needs help /work and time (forgetting about the "the plan"). i think the cops do an ok job with what they've got to work with, we are in an ungentrified (is tha

[AsburyPark] Re: unsold condos...

2011-09-21 Thread fancypaaantz
I hope it works out, re the short sale and I am sorry for your situation. That is why I thought it was funny when I said to the bank, hey,what if I find my own buyer and I do not even ask for a short sale, but I just pay off whatever the difference is monthly, and they said, eh No! I was like, w

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Boutique Hotel in the Casino spot

2011-09-21 Thread cbrianwatkins
Werner 100% agree with a hotel at the C-8 site, in fact I'd rather hotels all along kingsley and ocean instead of condos Being that AP's gentrification plans exclude actual families with children, any condos built in that area will become 2nd homes for people, in the end that will have an econ

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: unsold condos...

2011-09-21 Thread Bob Loblaw
the city government makes AP an undespireable place to live. EVERYTHING in AP is about revenue. my drug dealing neighbors get off scott free despite the whole neighborhood complaining, becuase the cops are too busy issuing tickets to care. my neighbor is a volunteer C.O.P. and can't even get the co

[AsburyPark] Re: Boutique Hotel in the Casino spot

2011-09-21 Thread wernerapnj
There are numerous reasons why that is impractical. Foremost being that State CAFRA policy limits construction on the ocenfront which is intended to minimize threats to life and property from hurricane and flood conditions. If a hotel were allowed it would likely be cost prohibitive to build to

[AsburyPark] Re: unsold condos...

2011-09-21 Thread fancypaaantz
Yes, before I do anything I will have it all researched. The point really, my personal experience is just an example. If this "plan" comes to be, isn't it just going to be more and more of this with all of our property values getting more and more depressed. We need to adress the other issues (e

[AsburyPark] Re: unsold condos...

2011-09-21 Thread oakdorf
speak to an accountant. Not a bad move converting it to "rental" - if you sell you sell and may have some tax beneifts. If you don't sell and want to convert it back to your primary home - it might work out as well. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit you

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Will it Stay or Will it Go...

2011-09-21 Thread shuvee
Yep. That and the pretty dreadful dressing rooms and backstage facilities. Acts are definitely not clamoring to play Convention Hall and that is not likely to change when there are so many other options around. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Hinge" Se

[AsburyPark] Re: unsold condos...

2011-09-21 Thread fancypaaantz
I have not really explored it but my understanding is that if you can pay, they have no incentive to work with you re: short sale or modification. And unless there are dire circumstances, why destroy credit, have tax implications, open youself up to legal action, etc.? I think it is just better

[AsburyPark] Boutique Hotel in the Casino spot

2011-09-21 Thread Dave
I think the old Casino shell that extends over the water would be a great place for a boutique hotel. With other uses in the Casino building and part that connects with the Carousel. 3 Floor high - Each room could have a balcony with an ocean view. Something like the hotel tides feeling but

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: unsold condos...

2011-09-21 Thread Claire Davids
isn't that what shortsale is though? or even what about a loan modification? both of which i believe destroy credit (i'm not sure the technicalities) and the only way to get them to consdier that is to just stop paying the mortgagebut - i know if you're thinking about something like that

[AsburyPark] Re: Will it Stay or Will it Go...

2011-09-21 Thread wernerapnj
That depends on what its used for. ConHall was not designed for modern sound systems and concerts. The building materials, shape and acoustics are terrible for contemporary productions. That's because ConHall is part of an instrument designed into the building, a Theater Organ. If you've neve

[AsburyPark] Pay Parking ....

2011-09-21 Thread oakdorf
without parking meters, the town would need to raise additional monies to operate. Should a homeowner pay another $150 year in property taxes or a landlord pass those increased taxes to the tenant? Do you as a tenant want to pay another $15 per month in rent to support free parking? And as lon

[AsburyPark] Re: Will it Stay or Will it Go...

2011-09-21 Thread dfsavgny
It is my recollection that we are not talking about moving the SP building. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" wrote: > > > > I'm sure we can all recall what happened when it was proposed to tear down > > the club in 2

[AsburyPark] Re: Will it Stay or Will it Go...

2011-09-21 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" wrote: > > > Moving residential zoning off of that block to accommodate an expanded Stone > Pony would be far more beneficial to Asbury Park. > > Werner > My first recommendation. Yahoo! Groups Links <*

[AsburyPark] Re: Will it Stay or Will it Go...

2011-09-21 Thread Hinge
Unfortunately, Convention Hall is one of the worst sounding concert venues in the country. That's probably the main reason for the sparse amount of shows presented there. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" wrote: > > That would not be the best option. > > ConHall and Paramount are

[AsburyPark] Re: Will it Stay or Will it Go...

2011-09-21 Thread oakdorf
back to the same old debate here. Plenty more venues - modern, more seating, sound etc. If you spend tens of millions to build, you have to figure out how to recoup the $. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Will it Stay or Will it Go...

2011-09-21 Thread cbrianwatkins
CH and the Paramount are essentially being wasted by MM, they could have SO much booked in there and they don't, its really a shame Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "oakdorf" Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:40:37 To: R

[AsburyPark] Re: unsold condos...

2011-09-21 Thread fancypaaantz
Also note with banks, if you are a total disaster, they have an incentive to work with you, but if you are not, they won't. So, I posed the following to the bank, as a hypothetical... I said, what if I owe say $300K and I find a buyer on my own for $270K. Can I work out a payment plan for the $3

[AsburyPark] Re: Will it Stay or Will it Go...

2011-09-21 Thread oakdorf
CH is REALLY filled with music history. That's something that missing in that building. If someone had half-a-brain, they'd do a bit of research and come up with a mini look at who was there. Be a nice little ting to walk around. Ditto for the paramount. I have a concept. -

[AsburyPark] Re: unsold condos...

2011-09-21 Thread fancypaaantz
I bought not to flip but to hold on for maybe 5 years or so, have a fun weekend place, place to surf And then, well, life happened! Changed jobs, got married, had a child, got divorced, etc. The rent will never cover my costs, it will only help, but then I have to worry that the tenants will

[AsburyPark] Re: Will it Stay or Will it Go...

2011-09-21 Thread wernerapnj
That would not be the best option. ConHall and Paramount are already used for what they were designed for. Certainly not to their full potential, however the space is already taken up. The storefronts are in use and there is little if any space left for use that would not negatively impact the

[AsburyPark] Re: unsold condos...

2011-09-21 Thread oakdorf
I'd appeal your taxes again. Why not. One of the big rushes about when you bought your condo was the "quick" conversion of 1-5 units in AP to "condo" ownership. Pre-conversion I had a looked at a couple. The city back then was to quick and desperate and let these happen. So a place like yours

[AsburyPark] Re: unsold condos...

2011-09-21 Thread fancypaaantz
My house is techinically a condo, converted in 2004 with the 5 units in the front house. Hard to comp. It is near North Beach, 2 bed, 2 bath, no tax abatement, taxes around 6K (down from 8k- I fought the law and I won). I do not want to default. My understanding is NJ is a recourse state, so I w