Went down town, first time ever there is parking near taka, paid my $2 in
the conveniently placed meter, dropped some money in a local business. Im
happy, they're happy and everyone is a winner.
In this weather if there'd been nowhere to park I wouldn't have come (and
yes, I know taka validates
Trust me, I admire you a lot. You have chutzpah!
Dinner? Chili Con Carne on a raw, rainy day. Add your own
Tabasco! I know just how you feel. I'm sure that whoever let you go
is looking for a position now. I'm glad you got through it.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote:
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>
go to the steinbach or post building, or for that matter any "condo" around the
downtown,
If you want to use the steinbach or post lot, it's around another $100 PER
MONTH.
That's called providing parking for your condos. Right or wrong?
Pay per use, but not mandatory, as included in your ren
Hilton in East Brunswick used to have a great sports bar for football
Parking at said hilton = $5 an hour
Hand the barmaid/tender your ticket and they validated, free parking
Place was jammed every Sunday
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buy a burger and beer and we pay your parking
if you're In! and dine with us..
free parking with breakfast
add a few to each promotion
If you're really concerned, get creative. cost you nothing.
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Why would you have to go back and restripe it? Stripe it once, number it and
don't enforce it, I have no issue with paid parking, I encourage/welcome it, I
have seen the benefits
But I also see hinges point, its known that parking was a problem and known to
be used by residents/employees. We al
the value of an empty street.
Dan can put numbers as that is his profession.
But if own a building or have a business or are considering a business in the
immediate area, you just might want figure out where people will park if you
want them walking in your door - if you need that kind of traf
But why go back and stripe again? Whats the down side of paid parking on
Mattison? It is in the CBD.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote:
>
> I totally get what your saying about starting with Cookman and working
> outwards, however, I feel that wouldve turned into a debac
How else do you propose to stop people from hogging the parking so its
available for customers? The parking has been a real big problem. And as I am
fond of saying, NO PARKING IS FREE. Believe me, there are a multitude of
whitepapers on this. Parking always has a cost regardless of whether a fee
Maybe, buts what's the downside? On weekends you get incoome froom visitors
pparkiing on Mattison too. I've had trouble finding a spot there tooo on
weekend nights, although most of he times we walk.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote:
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> What's the point of empty parking spaces
I totally get what your saying about starting with Cookman and working
outwards, however, I feel that wouldve turned into a debacle. Could you imagine
the confusion, the city can't roll any plan out in a well executed manner, no
way they couldve pulled that off, another council, different city m
What I'm not understanding here is that it was just pointed out that during
the day, Mattison Ave is completely empty. So, there seems to be plenty of
parking at the current time. I can see that the parking that is available
will fill up quickly as businesses grow, and there should be plans in th
The spots not being filled right now by patrons is not because of the
metersI am predicting that daytime shopping/eating/drinking will be pick-up
once word spreads there is ample parking
So many people shop elsewhere purely because there is no parking, hell when I
first moved here I was one
I'm not against paid parking. I'm for a well thought out plan and I don't think
we have one.
I also don't like fighting with you. I respect you and realize that you know
about many things that I know little about.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote:
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What's the point of empty parking spaces when nobody fills them also?
What's the value of an empty street like the current Mattison?
Like I said, they should have just started with Cookman, looked at how it
worked out, and expanded paid parking from there. I think lot's of people
would've found t
And if there are NO PARKING SPOTS and they dont walk, take a cab or ride a
bike, they will never go to get that first cup of coffee? That's the entire
point of this discussion.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jenni" wrote:
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> No, but for each person who feels comfortable and happy buying
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote:
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> I'm not sure if Dan deleted his comment about commuting,
I tried to add to it but somehow it got deleted.
> but I commuted for 5 years from AP to Edgewater, 140 miles a day, 5 days a
> week. I also commuted for 4 years from Bergen county
No, but for each person who feels comfortable and happy buying that one cup
of coffee, most are going to come back another time and spend more $, bring
friends or business associates, etc. It will keep the place in business if
you keep the people happy without sacrificing all the profits, and enco
I guess the biggest question (probably the only one), is, what's more important
to the downtown now...employees/residents parking in a convenient spot for them
all day long or having open spots for patrons who have not been able to park
for years?
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You absolutely have belittled people here, and it's not the first time.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote:
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> Tension my ass...
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote:
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> >
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> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > By the
Tension my ass...
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote:
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> >
> > By the way, that photo is by Henry Vacarro, Jr. and you should see the
> > comments on the Facebook page it's from
>
> So what that Henry posted?
>
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote:
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>
> By the way, that photo is by Henry Vacarro, Jr. and you should see the
> comments on the Facebook page it's from
So what that Henry posted?
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I'm not sure if Dan deleted his comment about commuting, but I commuted for 5
years from AP to Edgewater, 140 miles a day, 5 days a week. I also commuted for
4 years from Bergen county to Bay Head. In addition, I commuted by train from
Allenhurst to Hoboken for 1 year, and rode my bicycle in ALL
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote:
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> As for the tension here today, it could have been avoided if a poster didn't
> belittle people because they don't want to pay extra for the coffee at a
> venue they've been faithful to. Maybe the little bucks don't matter to some
> people
Employees and residents are parking elsewhere, and this is the result. Like I
said, in my opinion they should've started with just Cookman, and expanded from
there if the need was shown to be valid.
It's exactly like what has happened in my neighborhood.
By the way, that photo is by Henry Vaca
hinge---
like others, I commuted to NYC for a period of time - From Elberon to Penn
station, then walked about 15-20 minutes to Madison Ave carrying my laptop.
Before that, it was the WTC to the seaport. I even walked from my house to the
elberon train station.
No limo waiting for me.
$480 a month for my commute
If I drive its $450 a month plus the headache of traffic
I feel your pain
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote:
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> This is how Mattison has looked for the past 3 days:
>
> http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/178624/sn/142168609/name/mattison_post_meters.jpg
>
So is people not shopping? Or employees and residents parking elsewhere?
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Hinge - please. Commute. It takes me 1.5 hours on public transportation to get
to work and only 30 minutes on a motorcycle. I do that rain or shine, 98
degrees or 0 degrees. I pay tolls and $200/month to park my motorcycle. What
will please you?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wr
the same gripes about paying to park were on the boardwalk area as well.
I would take a shot in the morning of pulling up, running in and grabbing your
coffee - or paper.
Meters were first installed around 1934 downtown.
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I have no worries about AP. Its on its way. I've seen it so many times in so
many other edgy places. First it was the gay community and now I am seeing a
lot of young straight hip people. Being from NYC I dont know NJ that well, but
now I understand that to many, they dont have to be in or near
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fast4u" wrote:
>
> Oak,
> For one, I am certified RETIRED! No, it's NEVER too late to improve
> oneself, educationally. It's how I got ahead, received promotions on I'm
> still married and enjoy his company. The burning
> question of the day at my house
This is how Mattison has looked for the past 3 days:
http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/178624/sn/142168609/name/mattison_post_meters.jpg
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote:
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> as far as safety goes, you have to use common sense.
>
> unless the paper wants to have a few pages dedicat
No I do not and I did not mean my comment to be personal to you, so if thats
how you took it, no insult meant. But the hard facts are that buying a single
cup of coffee and staying a long time is not going to keep that place in
business. The simple fact of the matter whether you or anyone else l
as far as safety goes, you have to use common sense.
unless the paper wants to have a few pages dedicated to crime in M county, you
only see a few snippets of crime.
Sit in ap muni court - just for the minor stuff.
Usually a full house.
Common sense anywhere. First Saturday nights are a grea
Oak,
For one, I am certified RETIRED! No, it's NEVER too late to improve
oneself, educationally. It's how I got ahead, received promotions on
time, etc. It wasn't easy, but I did it and have earned the right to
sit the hell, down! Instead of opening a business, which I contemplated, I
decided
Exactly, "perception"
When someone from outside of AP see's a headline "man shot in asbury".now
they just have AP in their head and a shooting, not where it actually took place
So many of my friends have looked at myself and my fiance as if we had 30 heads
when we suggested going out to ea
Actually, it seems like much of the downtown crime isn't reported to the media.
Not too long ago, Humorandgrace had their window smashed in my building, and
more recently somebody climbed the fire escape to the 2nd floor of my office
and stole a hoard of power tools. There has also been several
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote:
>Really? Herman Cain? I see Clarence Thomas! Jesus, save us!
>
> >
> The thing that differs me from a lot of other people running for the
> President of the United States is that I focus on the problem first. Then I
> focus on what the s
I am NOT saying there is crime there now, that is the "perception" outsiders
have. Although my car was broken into on Bond 4wks ago
2yrs ago when I was thinking of opening an office in AP I had pulled police
reports for crimes on this particular section of Cookman. Countless car
break-ins a
Apparently some of you weren't around before 1984-1994, when a few
stores were still open on Cookman like Jay Davids, the Youth Center, Wolco's,
The Press Box, Rexall Drugs and Lynn's was still open.
There were meters then and really can't remember when they pulled them up.
There were parking me
One of the more sensible things said today
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It's no wonder people are getting
It's no wonder people are getting passionate about this issue. For example, I
work on Bond street. The metered zone on this street is non-residential, all
business. The 2 restaurants are only open in the evening. I had a choice, pay
$8 to go to work, or park a few blocks away. Fortunately, they
Its not even just here, on facebook yesterday I mentioned how my mother found
parking on Cookman for the first time in years, and spent 6hrs shopping,
feeding the meter as the day went on
And a business owner on Cookman mocked me about it, (not going to mention that
store)
Residents and employ
no one's having a fit.
no one's accusing you of anything.
it's a point. people take parking spaces is one issue business owners have to
contend with. The others are having customers and paying rent, salaries
supplies along with having an in product - and competition from those with
cheaper pr
as he's my husband and sitting across from me i'm pretty sure it's not
addressing me :-)
it does get a little heated in here at times - i guess everyone is
passionate with their thoughts and the plot gets lost
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> Who are you addressing?
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> Wh
Who are you addressing?
Why is everyone being such an ass to one another, its like children in here
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...and you must be one of those who ASSume no wonder no one takes you
seriously here.
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but now i can park i'll take a local business's free internet and i will at
least buy my first cup of coffee from the local vendor which i currently
don't. I will also BUY my 2nd or 3rd cup of coffee (which i always do a
panera). so where exactly does that make me one of the "those" people?
fyi
---"tri-city news tower..."
another building with limited parking.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids wrote:
If i need a change of
> scenery and want to grab my laptop to work somewhere else, same thing, i do
> a flyby, parking, yay, i'll go to cookman, no parking and panera here i
> come.
oh - another one of those "panera people" takes a tabl
Just that all those towns have a bit different demographics - and most have a
college community or big business and more.
You can't keep building taller and inviting more businesses in without having a
realistic parking solution. This has been the case in AP since the beginning of
time, when ca
Excellent references to those other municipalities
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Definitely -this to me is the guts of the issue with AP's revitalization and
the rebuilding of the downtown area.
Right now, AP is all about food and nightlife - primarily restaurants and
bars. There are a few specialty businesses - some that have carved out a
successful niche for themselve
I couldn't remember the name, I wanted to cite that as an example
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I work at one of them. Asbury Media.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote:
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> We do need more business like that. Tech companies would be perfect.
>
> The Tri-City has been preaching this for years.
>
> A business that does not require foot traffic essentially, but has a
We do need more business like that. Tech companies would be perfect.
The Tri-City has been preaching this for years.
A business that does not require foot traffic essentially, but has a decent
number of employees in their offices each day
If the condo's were done and occupied, the meter thing
The AP meters have pay via smart phone coming soon,however, I've researched the
app that it works with and it's got nothing but horrible reviews.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids wrote:
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> I'm a weekday shopper - right now if i'm working from home and want to run
> out to grab
I'm a weekday shopper - right now if i'm working from home and want to run
out to grab a coffee i do a flyby on cookman, see if there's anywhere to
park and if not head on to panera or somethign where parking is guaranteed.
I know now that i'm sure to have parking now downtown and frankly if i'm
r
I think you've hit the nail on the head, and the reason why Cookman now looks
abandoned. Practically everything is a specialty store. If there were something
akin to a modern Woolworths, you'd generate traffic and lead the curious to the
specialty shops.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oak
The problem is the keypad. At night, it's hard to see and I see people using
their cell phones for illumination.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote:
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> > Some people are suggesting that the parking meters might actua
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote:
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> Some people are suggesting that the parking meters might actually increase
> crime when people are trying to use the poorly lit meters at night,
> especially approaching the midnight hour. I'm not sure if I agree with that,
> but it could
You have to define what a "weekday shopper" is.
What would draw one to to shop AP - is it selection, price, the scene, food,
proximity to other place of interest that day and parking.
that comes down to is it a weekday destination shopping trip? Or are those
people more likely to go to the mall
Some people are suggesting that the parking meters might actually increase
crime when people are trying to use the poorly lit meters at night, especially
approaching the midnight hour. I'm not sure if I agree with that, but it could
be a valid point. People pulling out their wallets on the stree
Seriously? A discussion about parking meters has turned into threatening to
boycott someone's business (if they even own one) because of their opinion
Are we adults or children?
Let's get back on track.
Weekday shoppers are turned off from shopping in AP for two reasons.crime
dfsavgny -
Do you own a business in town? Let me know which it is so I don't waste your
time.
Joey Schweigert
1306 Monroe
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I have one business that works on .02 to $5.00 per visit.
I've paid lots of bills with it.
Granted my visitors aren't hogging any parking spots - unless they are using
free internet from some place.
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Since when do we start dumping on people based on the volume of business they
do? If they do that every day, like clockwork, that makes them a good customer.
Lot's of people do that.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote:
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>
> If you are buying 1 cup of coffee you are not keepi
Starbucks in NJ has parking - most by local code.
Here's a real good example.
Most of you see the new strip center on the AP circle - more or less vacant. It
cost over $3 million to complete it.
A new coffee shop has been slated to open there. While the town let them build
15,000 sq ft on th
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fast4u" wrote:
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> Anyone? You're not the first. They ARE 2 entities period.
> How can you suggest that the City Engineer get involved when
> they too are in a "shady" deal, pumping up t heir salaries
> scandal?
>
I'm not commenting on another's salary.
Starbucks/local AP coffee shop = apples/oranges
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"If you are buying 1 cup of coffee you are not keeping anyone in business.
You are hogging a parking spot for nothing."
Wonder what Starbucks thinks about that?
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