Pretty sure Laplacca had a sign up for the last month or so saying they
were moving.
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Hi everyone.. Havn't been on here in months... Just skimmed through about 500
messages. Off topic, but I need 2 manikins for a Halloween display. Anyone
know of any local? Cheap? I don't care what shape their in, since they will
be clothed. Thanks.
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Was this change in radio announced awhile ago? I never read about it,
maybe I was in the dark.
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Like MIke just said, there are no hosts yet, so it has that cheesey sound
to it. G Rock had the same thing when they first came out, most stations do
until they find real hosts. I don't think its likely any of the previous hosts
will carry over.
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Havn't posted in awhile... I remember the original station when I was in
HS, FM106.3. That was a good station... Then it sold and out came G rock. G
rock was pretty bad when it first came out, for a few years actually... But It
got better. I turned on the station the other day unaware
"And why must everything be designed in 'suburban-stucco- modern'
architechture ?
I'm still picturing that bandstand building, how badly it was
butchered architecturally.
And how easy it would have been to preserve it as the really unique
piece of AP that it is. It would still be occupied by t
One of my frienids works at the SP. I think its days in its current
location are numbered... I wouldn't be surpised if during the roof
renovations a large probem is discovered...then the whole building would be
declaied unsafe!
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I think your missing the point, but not sure. I havn't been reading all
these messages because I can tell by the subject line what their about. Just
the fact that it's annoying to scroll down through 100's of messages each
day. And not seeing any messages about anything "AP based."
"and yeah its been busy...its actually quite easy to change your
preferences so that you don't get any mail or limited. i don't get any
emails, just jump into the fertile pond when i feel like it."
No one should have to set their mail differently. The point was If
you want to talk abou
I'd say calm down too, just in general, about it all. My mail box is
filled up daily.
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I can't remember it at the moment, but if I remember, I'll post it. I
searched the old threads on this group from '99-'00, but no luck. I found the
topics that talked about the gallery, but no names mentioned. I'm sure someone
on here will remember it.
_
"If you don't think you will succeed you shouldn't even think of opening
any business. There is a difference between a positive outlook and an
unrealistic outlook. During the winter months the only thing I have
seen on the boardwalk is a cold ocean wind."
The point was, maybe they do think th
"Some people on the boardwalk have unreal expectations. I was in the
candy store near the casino and the people that own that think that
they will have enough traffic in the middle of the winter to be open 7
days a week."
Well, if you were the owner of that business, wouldn't you have a posit
I saw the railings a few days ago. I took some pictures to post on here,
but never got around to posting them. Maybe I'll do that later today. They
look good in my opinion.
I don't think that area near the lake is ready to be opened just because
the railings are up.
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Their days are numbered... Removing lettering and exterior features are
some serious signs!
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I used the parking meters for the first time a few days ago. I had no
problem using the machine. It's pretty much straight foward Enter your
number... pay.. hit the green botton and take your paper as record.. The only
problem I see is their locations. It doesn't make sence that y
That sounds like it could be true. There always seemed to be a lot of
"stuff" in the garages.
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Some said this before, but I don't know how true it is. Maybe because the
motel part is built so close to the road that it's worth leaving? Meaning if
you were to start from nothing, you'd never be able to build that close again.
I don't know.
Also, even though the motel part may no
cujosmom2 -
I agree, seems kind of odd..
The meters in Red Bank shut off at 8pm or something, right? Also, most
beach town take away their meter parking in the fall and winter months.
Although I guess pier village in LB has theirs year round now.
"
There used to be a visitors center in the 1st Ave pavillion. Forget to
look if it is still there - group? I think the maps and info should be
available and visible at the beach badge stationsor put a big visitors
kiosk in the middle of the BW."
I'm almost positive that's no longer there.
It looks good in my opinion. Havn't seen it in a few days though, but
things were being installed the last time I checked it out.
I think it will give the element of fun that the boardwalk is lacking so
far. It will be bring new memories and maybe at the same time help spark old
ones.
"I see we will have another hotel joining the mix. On the web and they are
listed for the upcoming oyster festival. More proof that Asbury is on the way
back."
Tides Hotel, what do you mean?
"
There's lots of old clubs that could "come back" .
The Saint, in my day, was the Clover Club.
I miss the Clover Club."
I didn't know the building was ever anything other then The Saint.
Hmmm... This could explain the neon clover over the door?
Good of you to check! I havn't been down there yet, but will be in the
near future to check it out. Now that I think about it, I think the railings
on the 5th ave were to be painted black? At least they were in some of the
renderings... But like you said, we will have to just wait and se
"
Great to hear... finally. Its been a long time coming. That lattice
just was awful. I would think the railings will be painted orange in
the coming days to match... they wont leave it two toned for sure.
Are they on the 1st floor along of 5th ave on the deck too? Or the
bandshell?"
Railings on the 1st ave and 5th ave pavilions. Sweet! They look
good. It was dark, but I saw them.Stainless steel, which goes
along with the modern design. Although weren't the ones on the 5th
ave already painted orange? They painted the extension piece on top
to match the orange a fe
"
More recently, didnt they make a commitment to have the entire
beachfront done by Memorial Day? Its almost Labor Day."
Interesting indeed! A lot of things were sopose to be done by Memorial
Day. Then they pushed things back till July 4th weekend. The set back was
due to delays due to a
That's true. Next year things will be different i'm sure. Also, since
the goal was to have a year round beach front, There should be things open all
fall and winter on the boardwalk...
A bar/restaurant is planned where the previous Cabana Club was. It looks
neat how the back of the
"
Exactly. Why pick on them? THEY took a risk - MM and Style.
I'm just waiting for a 50 or 70% sale.
They have a cool bathing suit I've been eyeing."
Yes, they took a big risk. Give them credit for that. Not everything is
going to be for everyone. If you don't like it, don't go the
I think the best idea when it comes to Tillie would be to create a new
venue of sorts, that would showcase the image of Tillie. Maybe some sort of
attraction on the boardwalk? Could he be worked into the new water park? Or
beach club??
I like the images, but I never fully understoo
Interesting. Of course, if you don't want to go there, don't However, it
doesn't seem like the right kind of place for it's location!
The point I was trying to make earlier was, unless something is going on,
the boardwalk doesn't have that "magic" that it had the other night Th
"Motif seems to already be out at Convention Hall... the
space is now empty. It doesnt belong in there anyway. Nobody is
looking to buy a couch when they go to a show at CH or to the beach."
Nice point... Which relates to what I was saying before... Some places
that are currently on th
"
The "North Side" of North Beach – Facing Ocean Avenue that you ask
about…. North Beach faces Ocean Avenue on the EAST side; get a
reliable compass! (Then again, sandpiper got west and east confused.)
HA! I noticed my typo after I had already hit send. Didn't bother to
send out a co
"
The "North Side" of North Beach – Facing Ocean Avenue that you ask
about…. North Beach faces Ocean Avenue on the EAST side; get a
reliable compass! (Then again, sandpiper got west and east confused.)"
HA! Yes, i noticed my mistake after i already hit send... Didn't bother
to send ou
Where else would you locate one though? mini golf that is. Arn't most,
if not all the open space lots already filled up plans? I guess maybe there
are a few left north, near north beach area.
Parking will always be a problem. Most beach towns have their share of
problems. Once their filled up, their filled up! You can't provide an
unlimited amount of parking.
"
As much as we all criticize the redevelopment and the developers,
seeing something like this makes us realize that Asbury Park has really
rebounded. Its no longer the ghost town it had been. Its a great city
that hopefully will only keep growing. And it has nothing to do with
condos."
"
I was under the impression the developers wanted to finnally get that
street reopened. I think it would be better for the flow of the
street grid if it was. One thing to notice is that last year, the
westbound side was used for two way traffic... this year the lines
were repainted and i
"
That was just a rendering, an early rendering at that... alot had
changed on that rendering, including windows and design elements. If
you notice, they finished off the top of the sloped roof with
flashing to match the rest of the pavilion... as well as the color
change at the end of the
"Whats the deal with 6th Avenue eastbound between Kingsley and Ocean? Is
the BCH using it as parking for its guests? There were many cars in
there and there are no numbered spaces, so it would technically be free
parking for those who park there. There are always gates up but the
seem to g
"
The railings do look good. They are a similar mesh style but not
exactly like the 5th Avenue Pavilion ones. I would think the 5th Ave
Pavilion railings will match the existing ones so they dont have to
change the old one which they left up. Since some railings are going
in, I would thi
Some of the finished 1st ave pavilion railings were installed a
few days ago. The temp wood ones that faced the Ocean Ave side are
gone. Also, the 2nd story balcony terrace railings are up! I think
they changed styles from the original railings. There was a modern
stainless steel railing p
Whoa... No hard feelings here.. And nice background info there
about yourself! Your posting name looked different to me for some reason.
Sorry... My yahoo i.d. sometimes comes up different on my end. So does my
messenger, it's strange. Yes, I know you're not new. Howe
Sharon -
"Oh boy-
Do we really think that a ANOTHER rock and roll museum is needed in
Asbury Park? Wouldn't it be cooler to recreate another great time in Asbury
Park
instead of continuing to live in the past and talk about it over and over
again..It seems
to be as bad as making th
"This is an Asbury Park Group and you live in Ocean Twp., so what's
your problem? So, should the museum be in Ocean Twp.? Just asking."
What's my problem?! What's yours??? ... I think maybe you are new to
the group, since I havn't seen your name posting to often. What difference
doe
"Next time I see Gary on the boardwalk, I plan on asking him what the fate of
the bandshell is.
Perhaps some of my pals here could do the same thing. I'll report back with his
answer. It
really burns my ass to see what was once a fantastic feature of our boardwalk
now serving
duty as a roo
"Oh boy-
Do we really think that a ANOTHER rock and roll museum is needed in Asbury Park?
Wouldn't it be cooler to recreate another great time in Asbury Park instead of
continuing
to live in the past and talk about it over and over again..It seems to be as
bad as making
the stone pony a the
I just checked out your link. Interesting. That sign use to be on the
fence, didn't realize it ended up on the building.
"
Yeah. Its pretty hideous, in my opinion. Tacky and cheap.. and out of
place. It was designed for the side of a stage or canopy, not to be
bolted to the building. Its further neglect to a building which should
be respected and treated like an imporant part of the city history. Am
I the o
" And would someone please
> explain to me why that giant triangular coors light advertisement is
> necessary or even allowed?"
Are you serious?
Another thought about the Stone Pony... How come the sidewalk on the
northern side of the building wasn't done "the right way" H... I think
we all know what's coming, or rather going.
8-15? I was at a show at the Stone Pony this
past Sat, and noticed a lot of beach people using them. Some machines had the
words free parking flashing on across the screen, others didn't!
I'll have to check out the water park items tomorrow. I'm very interested
to see them in real life.
Charlie
Thanks Pawprint! I'm emailing now for more info.
I'll check it out later, or if anyone else on here has the info, share
it! Perhaps i'd enter, although I don't know how the type of media would
work? Lot's of questions!
"yesterday noticed they now put a "coming soon" sign in front of the
waterpark boardwalk side. Just the concept pic they had in the window.
in front of the spot between 1st and sec is a sign announcing a
sculpture contest with a 1,000 first prize."
What kind of sculpture contest? Did did
I don't know what this is? Is that area big enough??
From pictures years ago, the first ave pavilion looked plane. It may have
been an old building that's been around a few decades but I don't really see
anything that architectural intriguing about the building.
Weather you like the current remodel or not, something needed to be done
wi
Hi pawprint,
Yes, I'm well aware about the whole talking to people part of life! :-)
That wasn't the point I was making, or trying to anyway. There are plenty of
places to go in AP. I was mainly talking about the boardwalk, and the
direction it may possibly go in. If, like others
There are two typos in there, let it be known! for the spelling police!
:-)
"
Those restrooms are toilets - not changing rooms/lockers etc. Be nice to come
to the
beach for the day, wash off and get dressed to maybe go out to dinner ... say
at
McCloones, Stella or The Deck or head downtown
The basement (there is one) of the 4th ave pav and Susnet Pav (up) both
"
Which is the missing piece of the puzzle that is so needed. Reportedly
that was to be provided in the 2nd ave beach club which is now on
hold. I think the city has to force these facilities to be in place
for next season.
You can see the increase in daily beach badges by families. Lockers,
"
Which is the missing piece of the puzzle that is so needed. Reportedly
that was to be provided in the 2nd ave beach club which is now on
hold. I think the city has to force these facilities to be in place
for next season.
You can see the increase in daily beach badges by families. Lockers,
It's a good idea to have bathrooms in the Casino, and i suspect that will
happen. Just like their are public bathrooms on the souther side of CH open to
the public now. Right before the beach bar. I wonder if visitors wondering
around even know their there yet? They should have a sign s
Since we're on the topic of bathrooms and what not. Doesn't the boardwalk
now have one planned at the 2nd ave beach club complex? I thought towards the
end of the meetings, MM decides to go with the idea on having a public bathroom
there.
One at the beach club, one in the future casi
"
should have clarified... i dont mind the stage being on the beach, but
i just dont like the location. it blocks the view of convention hall,
which is a beautiful building... if there needs to be a stage on the
5th avenue beach, well theres one right there atop the 5th ave pavilion"
I l
"
i was talking about those odd stage lights on top of the building...
but apparently theyre gone now?? i havent been there since last week so
i wouldnt know for sure"
I'm not sure what you're talking about! But if their gone, then thats
good!?
"that scaffolding had been on the northeast corner of the paramount
theatre for months now... does anyone know if theyre still working on
the building?
also im not sure about other people's opinions of this, but im not a
huge fan of the stage thats currently set up on the beach in front of
"Sorry - I was thinking the thread was about the Convention Hall stairs to the
beach... "
Haha, oh all right. I at first didn't know how I felt about the stairs.
The stairs leading up to CH. I know their not part of the original design of
the building, but I think i like them. They are
"To me the modern metal railings do not fit the architecture of the
original building. I don't know if the stairs were ever originally
there, but, I wouldn't think. If they do decide to alter a historic
structure, would it be too much to ask that the original iron work be
replicated??"
We
I don't think the containers are done! They are all white. They look
nothing like the renderings proposed. Of course, we all how pointless some
renderings can be... But the white container is a pretty far stretch from any
form of the rendering. I think more work is to be done on them.
I'll have to check it out. If you're on the boardwalk side, the right side
is still open the way it always was? With new railings going up, that look
pretty cool. Stainless steel. Some sort of lighted post it looks like. The
left side was always a 2nd story. I'll take a look
"Has anybody noticed the new stairs that are on the north side of the 1st Ave.
pavilion?
1) Aren't they in a green space?
2) Aren't they on what's supposed to be a sidewalk leading to the boardwalk?"
Yes, i saw them a few days ago. Jack! You're behind on your news! There
were a bunch of
"I keep hearing rumors that the Empress is very upset with MM's build up of
the first ave.
pavillion, which effectively ruined most of the view from their premium ocean
view rooms.
Can anybody confirm this?"
I heard the owners of the Empress were in talks with MM about what they
can do
"
an example of what it WAS on the front. This is what was stuccoed over
on the rear from what I recall.
It's open. It's clean. They pay taxes."
All true. Of course.
here are a few more.
http://homepage.mac.com/peterlucia/noweverthen/asbury/ap1.1fold/empres1.jpg
"
The Empress remodeling was started before the redevelopment deal. The
stucco on the West side came first. Then the redevelopment plan
required approvals for the East side. The TRC and Planning board
wanted it restored to a look more in keeping with its original design.
Those terms were not c
"This past Saturday should leave no doubts regarding the validity of my
criticisms of the traffic circulation and parking design in the
beachfront.
It was total grid lock."
I wasn't there, but I have a very good idea of what you're talking
about. I'll agree, because i've seen what you
"
I never implied that the pavilion and the center were matched or
should be matched. But your question is 'how did it fit before it
was remodeled'. Well its unique to Asbury. Architecture goes through
phases and certain buildings from the 50s/60s are recognized as
worth saving. Its a recor
s, but I think they had a timeline to get the work done by,
or else their ownership would be questioned. Maybe someone else remembers more
details on what happened there.
Welcome to the group!
Charlie
"
You make some good points about the 5th AVE pavilion and it probably
did seem a little crazy in 1961 (although the Rufus Nims roof design
and orange and white color scheme had become ubiquitous across
America by then), but it managed to grow on visitors and become an
indelible part of the
"
Someone asked for an example when i mentioned the mismatched
buildings, just look at the one next to the convention center.
Imagine taking the US capital, or any classy building, and painting
it 3 differnt colors.
Orange on the left, cream in the middle and yellow on the right
doesnt s
Nice comments Jack! I like the containers, I think they look neat! Also,
i don't think their completed! Didn't the renderings on line show different
images or abstractions on the sides of them? I think the white is just the
base coat. They were in a rush to get them open and operationa
Werner,
I didn't cut and paste everything you said just now, but yes, it does make
sence what you say. Sometimes it just seems like you word things in such a
way, that it leads people towards your way of thinkng.
Everything you said is true, however, the parking for beach goers lines
"
Is still to build 3000+ high end Condos and a retail/commercial
beachfront for the use of the condo dwellers."
Werner, does the plan really mention that the retail/commercial area is
designated for the soul purpose of the condo dwellers? I somehow doubt it
does, but if i'm mistaken, sor
Of course things should have been done a long time ago. But
"They are not modern, they are cheap. Thats the "new" trend in todays
architecture sometimes refered to as placeless design or cartoon
architecture."
In my opinion, they are modern. But, to each their own! You have the
right to think what you want, just like I do! :-)
"Basics like
I forgot where I heard it, maybe it was a city meeting. If down the road
main street is changed to one lane, AP is in trouble! Do you know how many
cars go through both of those lanes each way? Image if they were forced into
one. Traffic! Parallel parking? Forget it! Doing that in a
"
There is only so much space on the boards themselves to build. They
have to maximize every inch of that space. That's why you have the "pop-
up" retail - the converted storage units. What gets developed west of
ocean ave could be unique.
Time will tell - might be 1, 5 or 10 years..."
"
Reminds me of all the classic strip malls I see getting the fake
victorian make overs. Not to mention the new strip malls. Everything
looks the same and fake."
What? How do you think they all look the same? All the buildings are the
same style, modern. But, I don't know if it's a tru
I can't see the site either, just a yellow screen.
Bikes are all right early in the morning, when no one is there. But
during the day? The board walk is meant for walkers first, bikes second.
That's how it is anywhere. It's not called a board WALK for nothing!
The minniture golf looks super nice. I like the waterfall action going
on. The rocks. Nice! 5 dollars per person isn't bad either. I drove by on
my lunch today, and saw a bunch of people playing.
I take back part of what I just said a minute ago. People in the know
keep referring to the new AP as something similar to South Beach, FL. Meaning,
the same idea, not the same place. Family in the daytime, and a complete
different adult friendly lifestyle at night. I guess the high end
Jack -
When I was on the boardwalk last night, I took notice of the AC unite on
the 5th ave pavilion. Assuming we are talking about the same one, it is by no
means in any location where there were seats present before! The unit sits on
top of the large "block" on the roof, just west of t
"Asbury Park had another great year of fireworks with a crowd bigger than
any I have seen since the early 80s. Scenes like last night make me
seriously wonder why some people doubt Asbury Park could be a tourist
attraction again. I'm sure many city residents were watching the
fireworks di
"Currently the ramp stops at the supper club.
If anything, perhaps MM will start integrate the bandshell after all the other
pavilions are
done. I'd like to think that they understand the importance of preserving it."
MM may be off on some of their doings, but I don't think they are flat
"At very least, I can definitely say there were seats there.
I attended quite a few events there when it was in use, I did sound there on a
few
occasions and at least once, my band played up there.
I do agree that an elevator would be a good move, but I tend to think the
majority of
peopl
Interesting. No, I don't think it would be wise to have every business in
AP posting flags all over the place. I think to a CERTAIN extent it's all
right in the waterfront zone. It's a near area, obviously it's twice as hard
for anyone to open anything down there. It's "dead." It's a h
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