Dan,
 

In reference to your comment:

You're mind was made up
when AP|APAC made its endorsement no matter what truths are revealed
to you. How sad.
I've just re-read all your posts going back as far as February 9.  I was impressed with your single-minded focus on redevelopment issues as you see them, with very few forays into rumor or innuendo.  On the other hand, it is evident that your mind was made up even back then with nary a concession made since then to any of the truths revealed here.  I don't find anything wrong with that,... and I won't comment, "How sad."
 
But I'm baffled as to how you know when exactly I made up my mind, to say specifically it was at the moment of AP|Action's endorsements.  When I said yesterday that "by now, minds are made up," it was in the context of "now," the day before the election, not February, March, or April.  Despite last minute revelations ("truths," as you call them) from all sides, I still doubt any minds were changed since the weekend, especially on this list. 
 
It's presumptuous of you to imply that my use of quotes precludes any thinking on my part.
They are tools of rhetoric that I judge to be useful shortcuts; others here prefer their facts, figures, and statistics. 
 
If we were debating national issues such as social security, unemployment, or the debt, I would find the following a useful shortcut to my thoughts regarding politicians and their partisans who hold up their charts and cite numbers: There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics.  -Benjamin Disraeli
 
For most people, that quote cuts to the chase more effectively than mind-numbing explanations about the differences between rates and numbers; the totally different meanings of average, mean, and medium.
 
Respectfully,
Mario
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
========Original Message========
Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: 'fact' that ÃâËfactsÃââ ar e often abused
Date: 5/10/2005 7:04:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> As I said earlier today, by now, minds are made up, and all we're
left with 
> is "one-upsmanships."  Nothing said here today is apt to change
anyone's 
> mind; so what's the point?


Well, I guess that does say it in a nutshell. You're mind was made up
when AP|APAC made its endorsement no matter what truths are revealed
to you. How sad. Why not put down whatever quote book you are looking
at and start thinking for yourself.







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