Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park cop loses gun

2008-01-11 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 1/11/2008 11:13:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My response to Joey Vento - Stronzata! Add to the list of Disgraziato: Angelo Mozilo, son of a Bronx butcher, CEO of Countrywide, who has a half billion exit package, leaving behind livid stockholder

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2008-01-11 Thread fancypaaantz
I did R Stone for Spanish for a while, but then I did not have the time. I thought it was worth it, well done. It is one of those things I keep meaning to do again, both for Spanish and French. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 1/11/2008 11:04:20

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2008-01-11 Thread FleurDeLis
LOL! I died laughing! Joey endorses the 1st Italian-American! He just contradicted himself! In the 1st video, he exclaims, he hates hyphenated Americans! Says he's an American of Italian descent! In second video, read the first line, above. He also suffers from "Half-Heimers", just remember

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park cop loses gun

2008-01-11 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 1/11/2008 11:04:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have not heard Italian spoken in my family in 20+ years. I miss it so much that I just began taking lessons in Manhattan one night a week. It's much tougher when you are older. I miss it too. My hi

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2008-01-11 Thread Jack Pitzer
Ha --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" wrote: > > > > In my first life, I was in love with a French girl who lived in > > Strasbourg. I moved there for awhile to live with her. We spent week > > days in t

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2008-01-11 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In my first life, I was in love with a French girl who lived in > Strasbourg. I moved there for awhile to live with her. We spent week > days in the city, and on weekends we'd go visit her parents in > Turkheim, which i

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2008-01-11 Thread Jack Pitzer
In my first life, I was in love with a French girl who lived in Strasbourg. I moved there for awhile to live with her. We spent week days in the city, and on weekends we'd go visit her parents in Turkheim, which is a beautiful wine producing town. Those were the days... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogro

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2008-01-11 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: to > an American who did not speak French- the international language of > love). > > My mom's father was Jewish and spoke English and some Yiddish. His > grandparents spoke Yiddish and Russian. > In my second life

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2008-01-11 Thread fancypaaantz
And that is really the point- its is all of our experiences, which is why we need to be tolerant and understanding. My family is a big mix, my father's grandparents came from Italy, never spoke English. My father's parents spoke both, and so on. My mom's mom came from Belgium as a 19 yr old w

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2008-01-11 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was raised in an Italian immigrant neighborhood in Boston and I don't remember anyone telling me I had to learn Italian. Yeah, the Irish really welcomed those wops to Boston, and Brooklyn, and Philly. Yahoo! Grou

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2008-01-11 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My favorite "American of Italian Descent" speaks on "English Only." > > Go Joey! Go Joey! Go Joey! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeNHJCQDyIA > My response to Joey Vento - Stronzata! While I agree with him a

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2008-01-11 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This discussion has moved off of its original focus. If AP has a > hispanic affairs liason and some officers speak spanish, then we >are > doing the right thing. > > But what it moved onto quickly was xenophobia. Did you

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2008-01-11 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > My father came here after WW I and spoke badly broken English until he died > at age 90, nearly 70 years later. He and many of his generation of > immigrants preferred to live in Italian enclaves and speak Italian among thems

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park cop loses gun

2008-01-10 Thread Mike Hemeon
I was raised in an Italian immigrant neighborhood in Boston and I don't remember anyone telling me I had to learn Italian. Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/10/2008 12:06:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know of a few Italian people

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2008-01-10 Thread Jack Pitzer
I speak dog if you ever need any help... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" > wrote: > > > > Oakdorf would say... the want the $. But, nevertheless, the > > expectation is different and far more toler

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2008-01-10 Thread fancypaaantz
"Stay where you was"- Joey Joey needs to take some English classes! Ha! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My favorite "American of Italian Descent" speaks on "English Only." > > Go Joey! Go Joey! Go Joey! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeNHJ

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2008-01-10 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My favorite "American of Italian Descent" speaks on "English Only." > and no one referred back to Wikipedia? We have room for but one language in this country, and that is the English language, for we intend

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2008-01-10 Thread justifiedright
My favorite "American of Italian Descent" speaks on "English Only." Go Joey! Go Joey! Go Joey! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeNHJCQDyIA Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Ema

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2008-01-10 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oakdorf would say... the want the $. But, nevertheless, the > expectation is different and far more tolerant. > But my comment should be clarified - I'm sure you've been around even more - where it's NOT even t

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2008-01-10 Thread justifiedright
So you end with us being less "tolerant." If they are smart enough in other countries to know speaking English will generate more so they do, that same idea is magnified in the US. Even more money for speaking English here. It's not a matter of toleration. It's a matter of being able t

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2008-01-10 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 1/10/2008 12:06:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know of a few Italian people who struggle with English. I'd like to hear somebody tell them English only. My father came here after WW I and spoke badly broken English until he died at age 90,

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2008-01-10 Thread fancypaaantz
--But everytime we print signs in Spanish, newspapers, applications, have TV stations, radio stations, etc., we make it easier to not learn English.--- Last comment on the topic and then I will move on as Oakdorf has suggested... I am pretty well traveled, although not nearly as well as I would

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2008-01-10 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote: > > > Call the Yankees or Mets and aks them why they televise the games > >on > > cable or are telecast in Spanish. > > > > $$$. > > I guess that makes it O

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2008-01-10 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Call the Yankees or Mets and aks them why they televise the games >on > cable or are telecast in Spanish. > > $$$. I guess that makes it OK then ;-) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:

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2008-01-10 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But everytime we print signs in Spanish, newspapers, applications, > have TV stations, radio stations, etc., we make it easier to not > learn English. > Watch a Yankee game in spanish or the news in spanish. I

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2008-01-10 Thread justifiedright
But everytime we print signs in Spanish, newspapers, applications, have TV stations, radio stations, etc., we make it easier to not learn English. Somewhere there's a tipping point where you go from helping someone out of a disadvantaged situation to making it easy for them to stay disadvantag

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2008-01-10 Thread fancypaaantz
I don't think anyone is really counseling people not to learn English, but it is naive to think someone can move here as an adult and easily learn to speak English well while working a very long day. It is hard to learn a second language if you are studying it full time, it is even harder if yo

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2008-01-10 Thread justifiedright
I don't think Oak disagreed with me. Whether learning some other languages will kick open a few more doors for you is a different topic. Being in America and not learning English will close a whole bunch of doors. I see it as a real human rights issue. Anyone who isn't counselling people to

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2008-01-10 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree with Oakdof. please stop agreeing Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Tr

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2008-01-10 Thread fancypaaantz
I agree with Oakdof. I lived in Costa Rica for a while and I speak very little Spanish (I studied French in school). The people there were wonderfully compassionate and most spoke English. They were more than happy to speak to me in English and teach me Spanish along the way. There is a huge ex

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2008-01-10 Thread Jack Pitzer
I have to agree completely with Oak. When I see those "Speak English or Die" bumper stickers it makes me want to puke. On the global scheme of things, the "english only" attitude is incredibly arrogant. I know of a few Italian people who struggle with English. I'd like to hear somebody tell them E

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2008-01-10 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > English Only!! > > Not xenophobic, rather caring and compassionate. > > You can't get ahead financially without speaking English. You can't > fit in socially without speaking English. > > For THEIR sakes, Engl

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2008-01-10 Thread justifiedright
English Only!! Not xenophobic, rather caring and compassionate. You can't get ahead financially without speaking English. You can't fit in socially without speaking English. For THEIR sakes, English Only!! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi Everybody - > I pu

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2008-01-10 Thread restore881FM
Hi Everybody - I put together some notes on last night's Council Meeting and Pete posted them up on AsburyRadio.com last night. Thanks, Pete!! I should've added that Werner Baumgartner had a very sober take on what worked out to be a passionate argument on whether the police were making enough

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2008-01-09 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sounds like counsel disagrees with me. > > Isn't the only time counsel disagrees is when there's someone to bill . Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.c

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2008-01-09 Thread justifiedright
Sounds like counsel disagrees with me. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you are interested in the answer to the question, you can search on > liability for negligent gun storage and see the cases on the issue. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*>

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2008-01-08 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you are interested in the answer to the question, you can search on > liability for negligent gun storage and see the cases on the issue. > it's nice to have more lawyers out there): My daughter is tinkering with

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2008-01-08 Thread fancypaaantz
If you are interested in the answer to the question, you can search on liability for negligent gun storage and see the cases on the issue. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual E

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2008-01-08 Thread Jack Pitzer
Meanwhile here in AP, I run out for some Milk Bones and kitty litter. I walk out of my house and one of our cities long time crack addicted prostitutes is standing on the corner near my apt. How do I know she's crack addicted? Because she likes my dog and can't resist blurting out things when

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2008-01-08 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > > > > There MUST be a regulation for this? If not, there should be. If it is Years and years ago I worked at bar as a bouncer in another town. the local poli

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2008-01-08 Thread justifiedright
Well, someone always "can" sue, the question is can they win. It would be a negligence case, but within that area of law there is what's known as an "intervening cause." I would say the City would probably win that case on a summary judgment motion. I feel bad for AJ. He's a very committed of

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2008-01-08 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There MUST be a regulation for this? If not, there should be. If it is > not carried on the person off duty it should be in a secure lock box. > Sorry to be cruel, but there has to be some sort of consequence to pay > f

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2008-01-08 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Articles like this make AP look terrible. It's just one long running joke. > > > Asbury Park cop loses gun > BY NANCY SHIELDS • COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU • JANUARY 8, 2008 > > > > ASBURY PARK — City police Sgt. Amir