[AsburyPark] Re: Convention Hall

Honestly I think there was an attempt to try to fix mistakes going forward and that was shown by spending the money to do the arbitration. I have spoken in the past about the waterfront agreement. Its a legacy that we will have to deal with. I will tell you that I am encouraged by iStar and Bria

[AsburyPark] Re: Convention Hall

Werner, Thank you for the clarification. As I noted in my first missive, details are important. Peace, JWK -- Jim Keady, Director Educating for Justice, Inc. j...@educatingforjustice.org 732.988.7322 www.educatingforjustice.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Convention Hall

protection to maintain what makes it truely unique. -Original Message- From: wernerapnj To: AsburyPark Sent: Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:01 am Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Convention Hall Several Months ago the City settled its arbitration case and I recall reading in the document that they were

[AsburyPark] Re: Convention Hall

The primary problem is a poorly crafted redevelopment plan and contract that gave inadequate protections to the City and public. An unwillingness/inability to fix those mistakes going forward virtually assures further erosion of what remains of the City's heritage. Werner --- In AsburyPark@y

[AsburyPark] Re: Convention Hall

Several Months ago the City settled its arbitration case and I recall reading in the document that they were 'off-the-hook' regarding any further repairs to ConHall. The wording was something to the effect that all work done to date satisfies their obligation and no additional restoration was r

[AsburyPark] Re: Convention Hall

I am not sure about that Dan. As I recall (and I would have to go back into my files to be sure) there is a clear timeline of deliverables for Convention Hall as per the Dispute Resolution Agreement that was negotiated between the City and Asbury Partners. Part of those deliverables deals wi

[AsburyPark] Re: Convention Hall

It is important to remember in the discussion on the copper panels that the responsibility for holding Madison Marquette/Asbury Partners accountable falls with the governing body. 1. Unless something changed since I served on the Council, technically, Madison Marquette is nothing but a subcontrac

[AsburyPark] Re: Convention Hall

Should it read Madison marquette offering a 5000 reward and not historical society? Nice that they do the offer And august is not late, maybe late summer but not late in the year. Youd think someone would of mentioned it sooner and maybe the word would of gotten out --- In AsburyPark@yahoo

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: convention hall work seems to be stalled?

" should have clarified... i dont mind the stage being on the beach, but i just dont like the location. it blocks the view of convention hall, which is a beautiful building... if there needs to be a stage on the 5th avenue beach, well theres one right there atop the 5th ave pavilion"     I l

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" i was talking about those odd stage lights on top of the building... but apparently theyre gone now?? i havent been there since last week so i wouldnt know for sure"     I'm not sure what you're talking about!  But if their gone, then thats good!?

[AsburyPark] Re: convention hall work seems to be stalled?

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I liked the stage on the beach. I could see that being used throughout the summer. The > lighting was temporary. > should have clarified... i dont mind the stage being on the beach, but i just dont like the locatio

[AsburyPark] Re: convention hall work seems to be stalled?

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >     The lights on CH?  Do you mean the spot lights that light up each brick post on the balcony?  I like those lights, but wish they would have done a better job with it.  I like the stage, it was cool the night of the fire

[AsburyPark] Re: convention hall work seems to be stalled?

I liked the stage on the beach. I could see that being used throughout the summer. The lighting was temporary. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" > wrote: > > > > > > > also im not sure about other people

[AsburyPark] Re: convention hall work seems to be stalled?

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > also im not sure about other people's opinions of this, but im not a > huge fan of the stage thats currently set up on the beach in front of > convention hall nor the lighting theyve attached to the building. the

[AsburyPark] Re: Convention hall windows

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "charlie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The CH windows are being installed today. They look good. I > posted a few pictures in the file section for those who can't see in > real life. > > charlie > great pics.. thanks. cant wait to be back in asbury

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Convention hall windows

Check the pictures i posted in the photo section. The color is lighter then the previous ones. The old ones were copper if im not mistaken. I was on my lunch break so i didn't look at them too closley. Pretty much just took the pictures and left. I don't know what material they are, bu

[AsburyPark] Re: Convention hall windows

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No problem. Yep, they do look great. Their going in fast too. Almost done. > == Thanks for the info - I'll have a look today. However - when I s

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No problem. Yep, they do look great. Their going in fast too. Almost done. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

[AsburyPark] Re: Convention hall windows

Thanks for the photo Charlie! They look great. Can't wait to see them in person. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "charlie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The CH windows are being installed today. They look good. I > posted a few pictures in the file section for those who can't see in >

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Convention hall Restoration

Thanks Glenn! Good work. The CH project isn't listed however. I thought there would be an interesting write up to read. Guess not. Thanks again. Did any work acutally start, or is it just the screens so far? I don't know. Havn't been up close to look recnetly. I think the CH w

[AsburyPark] Re: Convention hall Restoration

Charlie, You are in luck! I took a picture of it last weekend: http://www.landmark-studios.com Glenn http://www.flickr.com/photos/dapaw --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "charlie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone

[AsburyPark] Re: convention hall - (was lights)

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... werners knowledge about the city is very good, and he knows a lot. its clear the city doenst want his imput too much, becasue they know the plan changes things, and he would be there protesting things if he we

[AsburyPark] Re: convention hall - (was lights)

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ture. Wires could have had to re run. Unless Werner was there, I don't see how he can insist he is right. > = Allan, Actually I was there. I documented, in photographs,

[AsburyPark] Re: convention hall - (was lights)

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycheech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, Werner, we've been friends for a long time now, and I > always value your opinions. ... Thanks > for standing your ground even though it has cost you so much in so > many ways. >

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: convention hall - (was lights)

"It already happened, people came in '05, saw it wasn't ready (and won't be for some time), and stayed away in '06. I was there, I witnessed the decrease in foot traffic on the boards. Don't be surprised if there is a lack of publicity, because there is a lack of viable business. In the name of

[AsburyPark] Re: convention hall - (was lights)

It already happened, people came in '05, saw it wasn't ready (and won't be for some time), and stayed away in '06. I was there, I witnessed the decrease in foot traffic on the boards. Don't be surprised if there is a lack of publicity, because there is a lack of viable business. In the name of

[AsburyPark] Re: convention hall - (was lights)

SoWhat's your point? Someone changed some bulbs and then flipped a switch Perhaps you should look up naive in the dictionary? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "I thought I clarified that - No-one DID anything other than flip a switch. > > We

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: convention hall - (was lights)

"MM's deal in CH is not the same as the rest of the BW. Partners is still involved there." yes, i know. AP will probably alwasy been invovled there. but if MM comes in, even a little. i think things will change. youd think MM would want to be invovled, if they are truely going to be do

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: convention hall - (was lights)

"Ture. Wires could have had to re run. Unless Werner was there, I don't see how he can insist he is right." he could very well be right. but unless he was there, then theres no way he knows for sure what happened! i doubt he was there, being he wasnt clear on what lights we were talkin

[AsburyPark] Re: convention hall - (was lights)

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > all your points are clear, and true. i think convention hall will be changing in the near future though. MM's deal in CH is not the same as the rest of the BW. Partners is still involved there. Yahoo! Grou

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: convention hall - (was lights)

Ture. Wires could have had to re run. Unless Werner was there, I don't see how he can insist he is right. - Original Message From: charlie leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 4:38:55 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re:

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: convention hall - (was lights)

"What about the general lack of publicity about this upcoming summer in general. I'd like to think that some kind've PR would be appropriate about everything that is "happening" in AP." i think its too soon to do any form of marketing. someone else said this awhile back too, but not sure

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: convention hall - (was lights)

"I thought I clarified that - No-one DID anything other than flip a switch. Werner" do you know that for a fact? if you do, perhaps im wrong, and sorry in advance. becasue the last times these lights were turned on, they were missing bulbs and not all were working right. this was a few

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: convention hall - (was lights)

" I appreciate your optimism for the work of MM and hope that you are right in thinking that Asbury Park is on the right path because they're now in the picture. Just curious though... aren't you a little disappointed or upset that there really hasn't been much made of an official announcemen

[AsburyPark] Re: convention hall - (was lights)

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i think the convention hall "crown lights" being operational were the work > of MM too. > = I thought I clarified that - No-one DID anything other than flip a switch

[AsburyPark] Re: convention hall - (was lights)

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Remember that there were estimates of $10s of millions needed to > restore ConHall when the discussions of sale were being held. > > To date Asbury Partners claims tro have spent $1M on improvements. > Those improvem

[AsburyPark] Re: convention hall - (was lights)

What about the general lack of publicity about this upcoming summer in general. I'd like to think that some kind've PR would be appropriate about everything that is "happening" in AP. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Charlie, > > I appreciate your opti

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: convention hall - (was lights)

Charlie, I appreciate your optimism for the work of MM and hope that you are right in thinking that Asbury Park is on the right path because they're now in the picture. Just curious though... aren't you a little disappointed or upset that there really hasn't been much made of an official

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: convention hall - (was lights)

all your points are clear, and true. i think convention hall will be changing in the near future though. how near? i dont know. i think MM will want to be invovled with the building more. everything being done these last few weeks are done with the hands of MM. not a big deal, but the idea

[AsburyPark] Re: convention hall - (was lights)

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oy vey, that could be a real problem if water infiltrates behing the > bricks. I have been involved in that a number of times. A nightmare. If > it gets to a certain point the entire face must be stripped, fixed and

[AsburyPark] Re: convention hall lights

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The most significant isssue is the deterioration of the structural > steel around the parapet walls. Water leaking in has caused the > steel to rust and expand, which displays as long cracks around the > perimeter o

[AsburyPark] Re: convention hall lights

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apoojo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... heres hoping they fixed the roof or its another gigantic waste > of money and talent, last time i was in the attic it was still leaking, > cmon werner knowing you im sure you have sneaked in recently is it rain > and s

[AsburyPark] Re: convention hall lights

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" wrote: > > > >> > MM is serious about doing the restoration. They are hiring a plaster > restoration mason for the Paramount. > when the city got the buildings back in th

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: convention hall lights

"Naaa, just flip a switch on some new lights that have been there for years and get everyone all excited." the lights your talking about have been there for years, corrent. and their always on. nothing new. dont jump to conclusions next time. :-) - TV

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"MM is serious about doing the restoration. They are hiring a plaster restoration mason for the Paramount." oh really? whered you hear this from? that sounds good. - Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo

[AsburyPark] Re: convention hall lights

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What about the RESTORING the interior lighting, the great chandeliers > that once hung in the arcade. What about the 3 color lighting system > of red,white and blue in the Theater and Hall? > > Naaa, just flip a sw

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: convention hall lights

"The lights have been there for years !! Someone just flipped a switch." im not trying to debate you here, or argue, but if someone just flipped a switch, how come the ones on the front werent turned on too? im thinking becasue they didnt work right, just like 5 years ago in a sad attempt

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: convention hall lights

werner, stop jumping to conclusions! were not talking about the same thing here! - Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A.

[AsburyPark] Re: convention hall lights

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Naaa, just flip a switch on some new lights that have been there for > years and get everyone all excited. > > Sad, > = And notice that all the lights that

[AsburyPark] Re: convention hall lights

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Garden State Film Festival and MM." > > im leaning more towards MM. they probably said enough, things need to get done! wasnt the garden state film festival in asbury last year too? they didnt get the lig

[AsburyPark] Re: convention hall lights

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "charlie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > wow... never thought the day would come, at least not this soon. the > crown shaped lights on top of convention hall are pluged in, turned on, > and working! looks good. wonder what inspired this? >

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: convention hall lights

"Garden State Film Festival and MM." im leaning more towards MM. they probably said enough, things need to get done! wasnt the garden state film festival in asbury last year too? they didnt get the lights running for that year, so i pretty sure it was all MM. maybe MM did it for the GS

[AsburyPark] Re: convention hall lights

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "charlie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > wow... never thought the day would come, at least not this soon. the > crown shaped lights on top of convention hall are pluged in, turned on, > and working! looks good. wonder what inspired this? > Garden State F

[AsburyPark] Re: Convention Hall/Paramount etc.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > good thing the fish didn't find "that quarter". > > That's the problems with many Americans. We are so greedy, we don't > know how to give back to the community. Then again, many Americans > don't know how to appreciate wh

[AsburyPark] Re: Convention Hall/Paramount etc.

good thing the fish didn't find "that quarter". That's the problems with many Americans. We are so greedy, we don't know how to give back to the community. Then again, many Americans don't know how to appreciate when something is given back to them. Yahoo! Groups