[AsburyPark] Re: From Today's Press on MM

2008-01-08 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Gary you make a good point. 3200 is a lot of condos. > > Perhaps the market adjusts the prices until they are all sold. > > Dan would know better than I. > The build out was originally envisioned over a 10-year p

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2008-01-08 Thread fancypaaantz
except that 1. If the houses are beach homes, second homes, for people who could own a beach house here, where otherwise they could not afford it. No issue with schools if the house is a second house. If the land with rotten buildings could be sold off lot by lot for single family homes

[AsburyPark] Re: From Today's Press on MM

2008-01-08 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Are you opposed to a future in AP that puts the focus on arts and entertainment with a lesser role for condos? Think about the bigger picture...jobs and an income stream for the > city. > Nope,not at all. Lesser r

[AsburyPark] Re: From Today's Press on MM

2008-01-08 Thread Jack Pitzer
Thanks Tommy. Something about this morning and my morning dog walk got me to thinking... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" wrote: > > > > But isn't that a Polly Ana ish view of the reality of AP? >

[AsburyPark] Re: From Today's Press on MM

2008-01-08 Thread Jack Pitzer
Are you opposed to a future in AP that puts the focus on arts and entertainment with a lesser role for condos? Think about the bigger picture...jobs and an income stream for the city. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,

[AsburyPark] Re: From Today's Press on MM

2008-01-08 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When school is out, is AP a good place for kids? > Not as it currently exists. > > So how do you market a place that's not safe for kids or folks in a senior tower? Some glossy of a happy couple kissing in the sand? R

[AsburyPark] Re: From Today's Press on MM

2008-01-08 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When school is out, is AP a good place for kids? > Not as it currently exists. > > You'd be surprised. My kids go to Ocean Twp High. You want horror stories? There's problems HERE as well. Same for other distric

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2008-01-08 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But isn't that a Polly Ana ish view of the reality of AP? > Schools are only part of the picture. > People need to live in the city, not just send their kids off >somewhere else. > When school is out, is AP a good pla

[AsburyPark] Re: From Today's Press on MM

2008-01-08 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Gary you make a good point. 3200 is a lot of condos. > > Perhaps the market adjusts the prices until they are all sold. > > Dan would know better than I. > > Sell the 175 or so avaialable in the redevelopment z

[AsburyPark] Re: From Today's Press on MM

2008-01-08 Thread Jack Pitzer
But isn't that a Polly Ana ish view of the reality of AP? Schools are only part of the picture. People need to live in the city, not just send their kids off somewhere else. When school is out, is AP a good place for kids? Not as it currently exists. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <

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2008-01-08 Thread justifiedright
Gary you make a good point. 3200 is a lot of condos. Perhaps the market adjusts the prices until they are all sold. Dan would know better than I. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think almost anything could work but I think towns make it harder to

[AsburyPark] Re: From Today's Press on MM

2008-01-08 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Beachfront condos tend to not attract people who use the school > system. The town can make money from those ratables. > > That was the marketing approach to sell and to argue for tax abatements. Didn't w

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: From Today's Press on MM

2008-01-08 Thread lightgrw
I think almost anything could work but I think towns make it harder to achieve success when they try doing projects on a grand scale all at once rather than completing a project, having it work and then moving on to the next project. Tommy, weren't you a little worried at the idea of ALL of t

[AsburyPark] Re: From Today's Press on MM

2008-01-08 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But it's such a double edged sword. Do you honestly think that AP >as it now exists is a > place that's going to attract enough people to fill those condos? I >don't...and I'm not trying > to be negative. I'm looking

[AsburyPark] Re: From Today's Press on MM

2008-01-08 Thread Jack Pitzer
But it's such a double edged sword. Do you honestly think that AP as it now exists is a place that's going to attract enough people to fill those condos? I don't...and I'm not trying to be negative. I'm looking at the overall picture. I'm also sad that people are so bent on condos. That's not

[AsburyPark] Re: From Today's Press on MM

2008-01-08 Thread justifiedright
I agree Jack all those other issues need to be addressed. However, they don't solve the City's budget problems. I think condos do. If I were to move to Asbury with my 4 kids, AP looses money. You'd spend $80k per year just on education costs for the kids, and I'd only kick in $10K in taxes.

[AsburyPark] Re: From Today's Press on MM

2008-01-08 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "The company has made a wise decision not to look at the retail side > of the redevelopment in a vacuum. "We think we can accelerate the > whole process there," said Gary Mottola, the company's president of > in

[AsburyPark] Re: From Today's Press on MM

2008-01-08 Thread Jack Pitzer
Go condos? Why is it that you think that condos are our salvation? Don't you think that AP has many other problems to overcome first? Our city had the highest murder rate in Monmouth County in 2007. We have a terrible school system, and virtually no recreation for our residents or kids. We have ga

[AsburyPark] Re: From Today's Press on MM

2008-01-08 Thread Jack Pitzer
Go condos? Why is it that you think that condos are our salvation? Don't you think that AP has many other problems to overcome first? Our city had the highest murder rate in Monmouth County in 2007. We have a terrible school system, and virtually no recreation for our residents or kids. We have ga