[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-12 Thread sharon_b283
I don't know what my post has to do with John calling Arcman "Shaniqua"! Like Sarah Palin, you interpret situations the way you see it, comment, then retreat after you make a snippy statement with a double entendre. Remind yourself, to read back your posts to yourself before publishing, because

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-11 Thread Gabrielle Obre
this is the last thing i will post on this thread. if John had called Arcman "Shaniqua" instead of "Dolores" or whatever name he called him, people would have freaked out...or that is my guess anyway. i know this is not the place to discuss linguistics, but it is hardly petty to discuss our langua

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-11 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sharon_b283" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The same kind of law enforcement that > decimates a community of their next generation, instead of educating > and rehabilitating them, Asbury has at least received the money for educating their population, with minimal

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-11 Thread sharon_b283
Yeah, petty, huh? The country is going to "hell in a handbasket" and the "nit-pickers" have turned this group into a pardon the pun, "Bit*h-Fest"! I saw another article in the Press on 50 drug arrests. Still not all the names but 50 looks impressive! Why can't law enforcement get the suppliers?

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2008-10-11 Thread Mike Hemeon
PROTECTED]> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 11:08 AM I also know you are not less worth than me because I am a man and you are a woman. I never said that. Do not try to make it appear thats the way I feel by imp

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-11 Thread sharon_b283
LOL, you are past crazy-funny! The dog must be something! Does he talk with his eyes? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" > wrote: > > > > > > The best thing to do is to go out and pee on a tree. There are

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2008-10-10 Thread Jersey Shore John
On Oct 10, 2008, at 12:32 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: > Group Hug! and send some love to the market makers and traders. oh.. > the portfolios holders too. > > LIQUID ASSETS > > If you had purchased $1,000 of shares in Delta Airlines one year > ago, you will have $49.00 today. > If you had purch

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-10 Thread Gabrielle Obre
Group Hug! and send some love to the market makers and traders. oh.. the portfolios holders too. freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Asb

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-10 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Theres really just nothing too important to discuss about AP. > Yea, unless your're trying to sell real estate or are worried in general about the economy, property taxes, home valuess, running a business, unfinsished

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-10 Thread arcman210
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank Goddess there's a place for straight, white men to feel proud. > Whew! > Thats right. We're just people too, ya know. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group o

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-10 Thread arcman210
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please don't make me create a group called "AP non-stop high school level arguments" > > To be perfectly honest, and in all seriousness, I think part of the reason the group has slid so far off track is because AP

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2008-10-10 Thread Jersey Shore John
Thank Goddess there's a place for straight, white men to feel proud. Whew! On Oct 10, 2008, at 11:08 AM, arcman210 wrote: > I also know you are not less worth than me because I am a man and you > are a woman. I never said that. Do not try to make it appear thats > the way I feel by implying tha

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-10 Thread Jack Pitzer
Please don't make me create a group called "AP non-stop high school level arguments" --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Gabrielle Obre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > look arcman...i was just noticing a linguistic issue. that's all. i > have no idea what you think of woman and i don't really c

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-10 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The best thing to do is to go out and pee on a tree. There are a couple things men can do better then a woman. Even though Blaze was neutered he still goes out every morning and pees on trees and every now then, giv

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-10 Thread Gabrielle Obre
look arcman...i was just noticing a linguistic issue. that's all. i have no idea what you think of woman and i don't really care. i don't say that with any animosity. my point in all of this is that there is no reason to be proud of being anything when you know that we are all human beings. if you

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-10 Thread arcman210
I also know you are not less worth than me because I am a man and you are a woman. I never said that. Do not try to make it appear thats the way I feel by implying that I think I'm better than people beacuse of their gender or preference. Just as its allowed to have the parade thats held in

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-10 Thread Gabrielle Obre
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And I'm not going to get into this argument, but what's the problem > if I am offended with being called a woman's name? its no problem to me. i know i am not worth less than a man. but you and your pride are going to

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2008-10-10 Thread Mike Hemeon
e and when you respond rather than having them respond in a normal manner they open up their "can o' labels".   --- On Fri, 10/10/08, arcman210 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: arcman210 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter To: As

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-10 Thread arcman210
Let me clear something up... I'm not saying his comment is a cheap shot because he called me a woman's name. The reason its a cheap shot is because its an insult in which he is trying to get me to insult him back, to make me look like a fool. And I'm not going to get into this argument, but wh

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-10 Thread Jack Pitzer
Without pointing any fingers at all, why can't this discussion end? It's not even about an "Interesting AP Press Letter" any more. There are much greater things in the world to worry about... This is getting childish, and it has nothing at all to do with Asbury Park --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.co

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-10 Thread Gabrielle Obre
"You calling me by female names is actually pretty much a cheap shot at me." - Arcman sorry..you may be clear, but arcman is NOT. and i don't say this as a rabid feminist, merely pointing it out. sexist men, homophobes, racists and the like are simply people with a virus that is rampant in our cul

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-10 Thread Jack Pitzer
Without point any fingers at all, why can't this discussion end? It's not even about an "Interesting AP Press Letter" any more. There are much greater things in the world to worry about... This is getting childish, and it has nothing at all to do with Asbury Park --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-10 Thread Jack Pitzer
Without point any fingers at all, why can't this discussion end? It's not even about an "Interesting AP Press Letter" any more. There are much greater things in the world to worry about... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Uh uh, Gabby. > > Neither

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-10 Thread justifiedright
Uh uh, Gabby. Neither Arcman or claimed any resentment of being called a female name. We each simply pointed out the bad intent of the speaker. I just went though this recently with someone who tried to insult me by calling me Gay. Same thing happened - when I pointed out it was no insult to

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-10 Thread arcman210
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please let this thread die... > I'm defending myself. I want it to end too. Tell him to cut out the remarks at me. > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.co

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-10 Thread Gabrielle Obre
Arcman and Tommy...being upset at being called a female name is at least as anti female as using it (John) as a derogatory remark. It assumes (pretty obvious to anyone with a minor amount of linguistics or ability to think) that there is something wrong with being female. Our culture is still very

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-10 Thread justifiedright
Arcman just stop. Your posts were great and you are letting him suck you in a bad place because he peronalizes (like calling you female names, which probably shows either an anit-woman or homophobic trait). Here's how it works, because I've been through it before:' He is going to post again,

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-10 Thread Jack Pitzer
Please let this thread die... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John > wrote: > > > > Your gutter language isn't very becoming, Delores. > > > > You calling me by female names is actually pretty much a

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2008-10-10 Thread Jersey Shore John
Amused. Yes, that definitely came across. Your utter amusement. On Oct 10, 2008, at 10:02 AM, arcman210 wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Your gutter language isn't very becoming, Delores. > > > > You calling me by female names is a

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-10 Thread arcman210
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Your gutter language isn't very becoming, Delores. > You calling me by female names is actually pretty much a cheap shot at me. Obviously just trying to aggrivate me and make me come back at you by calling you

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2008-10-10 Thread Jersey Shore John
Your gutter language isn't very becoming, Delores. On Oct 10, 2008, at 9:41 AM, arcman210 wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > My, my! Untwist your panties, Myrtle. > > > > On Oct 10, 2008, at 8:38 AM, arcman210 wrote: > > > > Are you

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-10 Thread arcman210
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My, my! Untwist your panties, Myrtle. > > On Oct 10, 2008, at 8:38 AM, arcman210 wrote: > Are you fucking serious? Is there anyone in this group who is actually going to stick up for this guy and his comments

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2008-10-10 Thread Jersey Shore John
My, my! Untwist your panties, Myrtle. On Oct 10, 2008, at 8:38 AM, arcman210 wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > No moderates are voting for McCain. Not with Palin on the ticket. > > There's nothing moderate to vote for. > > > > Shows

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-10 Thread arcman210
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No moderates are voting for McCain. Not with Palin on the ticket. > There's nothing moderate to vote for. > Shows how much you know. I'm not even going to bother discussing anything with you anymore, because

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread Jack Pitzer
/9/08, Jack Pitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Jack Pitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 11:47 AM > > > > > > > Exactly,

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2008-10-09 Thread lightgrw
Music is an art form and art has always dealt with political issues whether through literature, poetry, theatre, etc. I agree with Jack. People are mostly upset when they learn they disagree with a particular artist. fancypaaantz wrote: > > Ok, so your position is: > > Bruce, you have the righ

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2008-10-09 Thread Jersey Shore John
No moderates are voting for McCain. Not with Palin on the ticket. There's nothing moderate to vote for. On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:05 PM, arcman210 wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The Righties agreeing with each other. Alert the press

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread sharon_b283
I'm reading and ROTFLMAO! This is priceless! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You are "apparently" in another universe of reality. Phone home. > > On Oct 9, 2008, at 11:00 AM, arcman210 wrote: > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Sho

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2008-10-09 Thread Mike Hemeon
The free market is home of the self-made man. Try it in any other country. --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Da

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2008-10-09 Thread Mike Hemeon
It sells music and keeps him relevant. --- On Thu, 10/9/08, arcman210 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: arcman210 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 10:38 AM --- In [EMA

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2008-10-09 Thread Mike Hemeon
Oh, What credibility is that? --- On Thu, 10/9/08, justifiedright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: justifiedright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 11:32 AM --- In [EMA

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread Mike Hemeon
The producers of teh View doesn't give a crap what you or anyone else has to say. If people watch and the sponsors are happy nothing else matters. --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Jack Pitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Jack Pitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Int

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread Mike Hemeon
Practice what you preach. Unless it doesn't fit into you particular point of view then there is  a problem.  --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Jack Pitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Jack Pitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter To: AsburyPar

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread Mike Hemeon
Culture war? "Being fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life". (Animal House) --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter To: AsburyPar

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread Jennifer
The women of the view, Bruce Springsteen, Sarah Palin, me, you and everyone can and should be able to speak of their viewpoints. Why? Constitution of the United States of America Bill of Rights Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the fr

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread arcman210
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Righties agreeing with each other. Alert the press. > > On Oct 9, 2008, at 11:21 AM, justifiedright wrote: > First of all, I'm actually a moderate who is voting for McCain. JR is just sticking up for the

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2008-10-09 Thread Jersey Shore John
> Nobody tunes in because they like to hear the Whoopi sing > for 1 hour... > http://tinyurl.com/4z876q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny8dbqKZ2KA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2zg36qf9co > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread arcman210
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Palin met with the Iraqi President on the same fake photo op. Are > they sympatico now? > Bono asked to meet with Palin and McCain. Not the other way around. Bruce would have never met with Palin face to face

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2008-10-09 Thread Jersey Shore John
What strange little boxes you put people in. On Oct 9, 2008, at 12:26 PM, arcman210 wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Bruce writes songs that discuss current events. There is no > difference. > > There is no difference in their credibilit

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2008-10-09 Thread Jersey Shore John
The problem for The Right, of course, is that LONG AGO, they lost the culture war and they're pretending there's a battle still to be won. It's over. They lost. On Oct 9, 2008, at 11:49 AM, arcman210 wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread Jersey Shore John
Oh he, of the unbiased posts. On Oct 9, 2008, at 11:32 AM, justifiedright wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Tommy, You are so off base. > > Read my comment. It wasn't addressed to any one person, it was > >merely placed as a reply > > in

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread Jersey Shore John
The Righties agreeing with each other. Alert the press. On Oct 9, 2008, at 11:21 AM, justifiedright wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John > > wrote: > > > > > > You are "apparently" in ano

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2008-10-09 Thread Jersey Shore John
Palin met with the Iraqi President on the same fake photo op. Are they sympatico now? On Oct 9, 2008, at 11:09 AM, arcman210 wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > "One is charismatic, plays to packed stadiums and wants to change > the

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2008-10-09 Thread Jersey Shore John
Yes! No talking on a talk show! On Oct 9, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Jack Pitzer wrote: > As much as I can't stand them, right now, I can hear the chicks on > "The View" discussing > politics, and Obama. If we are going to tell Bruce to shut up, > shouldn't they be shutting up > also? They have milli

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2008-10-09 Thread Jersey Shore John
Bashing? On Oct 9, 2008, at 11:03 AM, Jack Pitzer wrote: > No need to get nasty with each other. This really didn't need to > elevate beyond conversation > to bashing. > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Je

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Look, I could spend my afternoon listing out all my reasons for > thinking she is terrible and back it up with links to source > materials. > > Then you would counter each point with your own source materials. > >

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread Jack Pitzer
Once again, this would best be discussed in our political forum...AP Politics --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Look, I could spend my afternoon listing out all my reasons for > thinking she is terrible and back it up with links to source > material

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread fancypaaantz
Look, I could spend my afternoon listing out all my reasons for thinking she is terrible and back it up with links to source materials. Then you would counter each point with your own source materials. I would not convince you, you would not convince me. So, it is pointless and a waste of time

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread Jack Pitzer
But Bruce's lyrics contain political and world issue content. He doesn't just sing about Asbury Park, he moved on from that years and years ago. Honestly, I'm ready to move on from this discussion. It's really not going anywhere, and I'm not looking to win. I think we've all stated our opinions

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread Jack Pitzer
But Bruce's lyrics contain political and world issue content. He doesn't just sing about Asbury Park, he moved on from that years and years ago. Honestly, I'm ready to move on from this discussion. It's really not going anywhere, and I'm not looking to win. I think we've all stated our opinions

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread arcman210
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bruce writes songs that discuss current events. There is no difference. > There is no difference in their credibility either. You can't call on Bruce to "shut up and > sing" without telling everybody to shut up. The

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread Jack Pitzer
Bruce writes songs that discuss current events. There is no difference. There is no difference in their credibility either. You can't call on Bruce to "shut up and sing" without telling everybody to shut up. The validity of what the folks on The View say is nothing different then the validity o

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread arcman210
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Back to my earlier post...why didn't the letter writer, or anybody here call on "The View" to > shut up also? If anybody wants to shut up Bruce, then they should be balanced and call for > everybody to shut up. Why

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread arcman210
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Palin is not a role model for me and not just bc of her views... I > think she is a pretty terrible person actually.Inciting violence, > spreading lies. The press can't get near her. She only speaks in > rehearsed

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread Jack Pitzer
Exactly, and that makes me wonder why some would call for Bruce and musicians to "shut up..." but not call on "The View" to shut up also. Personally, I don't think anybody should shut up. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe I should not admit i

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread justifiedright
Fine fancypaantz, I'll bite: > Palin is not a role model for me and not just bc of her views... I > think she is a pretty terrible person actually. Terrible person? Interested in the full range of your scale here. How would a woman like Sarah get the "terrible" moniker. >Inciting violence,

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread fancypaaantz
Maybe I should not admit it, but I watch the View on my verizon phone on the bus home from work.I find it very entertaining, particularly when they talk politics. I was never interested in the show before, but watching these women get into it is suddenly very interesting to me. --- In AsburyP

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread Jack Pitzer
Back to my earlier post...why didn't the letter writer, or anybody here call on "The View" to shut up also? If anybody wants to shut up Bruce, then they should be balanced and call for everybody to shut up. Why are people pigenholing? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL P

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread Jack Pitzer
Back to my earlier post...why didn't the letter writer, or anybody here call on "The View" to shut up also? If anybody wants to shut up Bruce, then they should be balanced and call for everybody to shut up. Why are people pigenholing? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL P

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread Jack Pitzer
Ok, so it's fine for you to point the finger at me instead. I'll agree, I should've pointed the finger, but I didn't see the point. It's like we're all in a room, and I said "calm down" Is that really wrong? Next time, I'll just say nothing and let things spin out of control to hyperbole... ---

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tommy, You are so off base. > Read my comment. It wasn't addressed to any one person, it was >merely placed as a reply > in a reply after things got nasty. How dare you try and discredit me >for trying to keep > th

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread Jack Pitzer
Tommy, You are so off base. Read my comment. It wasn't addressed to any one person, it was merely placed as a reply in a reply after things got nasty. How dare you try and discredit me for trying to keep things civil. I didn't point a single finger, and for you to suggest I did is 100% wrong.

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John > wrote: > > > > You are "apparently" in another universe of reality. Phone home. > > > > I'd be enlightened to know how that is the case. Please inform me on >

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread arcman210
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You are "apparently" in another universe of reality. Phone home. > I'd be enlightened to know how that is the case. Please inform me on how exactly I'm in another universe of reality.

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread Jack Pitzer
I agree. Nobody needs to start name calling. It's a discussion. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" wrote: > > > > No need to get nasty with each other. This really didn't need to > elevate beyond conversa

[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter

2008-10-09 Thread arcman210
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "One is charismatic, plays to packed stadiums and wants to change the > world. The other is Bono. Now a group of U2 fans, struck by the > parallels between Barack Obama and the Irish rock star, have become >

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2008-10-09 Thread Jack Pitzer
As much as I can't stand them, right now, I can hear the chicks on "The View" discussing politics, and Obama. If we are going to tell Bruce to shut up, shouldn't they be shutting up also? They have millions of viewers every single day. Probably more per single day then Bruce at all these rall

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2008-10-09 Thread arcman210
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No need to get nasty with each other. This really didn't need to elevate beyond conversation > to bashing. > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey

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2008-10-09 Thread Jersey Shore John
You are "apparently" in another universe of reality. Phone home. On Oct 9, 2008, at 11:00 AM, arcman210 wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > You're the "questioning" one, grasshopper. > > > > And apparently you're the non questioning o

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2008-10-09 Thread arcman210
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If Springsteen is not a credible source, imagine where that puts you... > CSPAN, voting records, and candidates words are sources of information for me. Where does that put me... in the educated voter column?

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2008-10-09 Thread Jersey Shore John
"One is charismatic, plays to packed stadiums and wants to change the world. The other is Bono. Now a group of U2 fans, struck by the parallels between Barack Obama and the Irish rock star, have become one of the U.S. Democratic presidential nominee's most enthusiastic band of supporters.

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2008-10-09 Thread Jack Pitzer
No need to get nasty with each other. This really didn't need to elevate beyond conversation to bashing. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John > wrote: > > > > You're the "questioning" one, grasshopper

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2008-10-09 Thread arcman210
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're the "questioning" one, grasshopper. > And apparently you're the non questioning one, believing everything that comes out of a musician's mouth because they are the answer to all of the world's problems.

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2008-10-09 Thread Jersey Shore John
You're the "questioning" one, grasshopper. On Oct 9, 2008, at 10:38 AM, arcman210 wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > "...but there are others who simply jump on the > > > bandwagon of bashing the Republican candidate simply because

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2008-10-09 Thread Jersey Shore John
If Springsteen is not a credible source, imagine where that puts you... On Oct 9, 2008, at 10:32 AM, arcman210 wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I think you answered your own questions. > > Consider the source. It's as simple as that. > >

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2008-10-09 Thread arcman210
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He's merely supporting one candidate over the other. Why is that such a bad thing. > Can you honestly say that ANY of the cable news political commentators, Olberman, > O'Reilly, Hannity or Combes, Joe Scarbourgh, or

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2008-10-09 Thread arcman210
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Umm... Bono is just an entertainer and look what he has done by > being an entertainer (The ONE campaign). I think Jack has also > listed a number of musicians who have inspired change. > Bono never bashed a polit

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2008-10-09 Thread arcman210
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "...but there are others who simply jump on the > > bandwagon of bashing the Republican candidate simply because its the > > popular "celebrity" thing to do..." > > > > How can you prove their motivations, howev

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2008-10-09 Thread Jack Pitzer
He's merely supporting one candidate over the other. Why is that such a bad thing. Can you honestly say that ANY of the cable news political commentators, Olberman, O'Reilly, Hannity or Combes, Joe Scarbourgh, or any of them are a source of accurate political information? --- In AsburyPark@ya

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2008-10-09 Thread fancypaaantz
Umm... Bono is just an entertainer and look what he has done by being an entertainer (The ONE campaign). I think Jack has also listed a number of musicians who have inspired change. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,

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2008-10-09 Thread fancypaaantz
I like the Spears reference. Yeah, I remember that she was a big Bushie fan! But, I don't think she sings about it. But, there's hope, maybe she'll have a McCain rally. As for this left right stuff. It is getting so confused. Back when the democrats were intially talking about about healthcare,

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2008-10-09 Thread arcman210
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think you answered your own questions. > Consider the source. It's as simple as that. > I don't think of Bruce Springsteen as a credible source of political information. He's never run for office, never proposed a

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2008-10-09 Thread Jersey Shore John
> "...but there are others who simply jump on the > bandwagon of bashing the Republican candidate simply because its the > popular "celebrity" thing to do..." > How can you prove their motivations, however. Just a "gut" feeling? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To vi

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2008-10-09 Thread Jersey Shore John
The Right only approves of the Free Market when it benefits Right Wingers, not the Left. And they, apparently, judging from their support of W. and McCain, have no use for self-made men. On Oct 9, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Jack Pitzer wrote: > Using the "shut up..." logic > Letterman - "shut up and

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2008-10-09 Thread Jersey Shore John
Music wise, I would say stick with Spear's new album, probably not > much politics in there! > > http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/03/cnna.spears/ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group

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2008-10-09 Thread Jack Pitzer
I think you answered your own questions. Consider the source. It's as simple as that. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" wrote: > > > > I agree completely. > > And when I read that letter, the write only m

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2008-10-09 Thread Jack Pitzer
I think you answered your own questions. Consider the source. It's as simple as that. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" wrote: > > > > I agree completely. > > And when I read that letter, the write only m

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2008-10-09 Thread arcman210
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree completely. > And when I read that letter, the write only mentions successful musicians, but the fact of > the matter is, musicians on every level, from the club where I work on up, are talking and > sometim

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2008-10-09 Thread Jack Pitzer
Using the "shut up..." logic Letterman - "shut up and be funny" Cartman - "shut up and be a 2-d animated character" Leno - Same as Letterman Peter Gabriel - same as Bruce - but don't forget his political songs helped things in South Africa Pete Seegar - Same as Bruce - but don't forget his politi

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2008-10-09 Thread Jersey Shore John
Uh. Where does "Shut up " and the right to speak intersect, again? On Oct 9, 2008, at 9:35 AM, justifiedright wrote: > Why do people like you assert that folks like Ms. Lallo and me are > attacking Springsteen's "right" to speak? > > We aren't. We are speaking too. > > We're sayhing, "Shut up and

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