[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread 2fine4u
Why don't you, run? For anything! We need real leadership! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u" wrote: > > > > But Tommy, our government is the biggest "spender". > > No argument from me Sharon, you ar

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But Tommy, our government is the biggest "spender". No argument from me Sharon, you are exactly right. GWB has been a disgrace on spending. Someday the Republicans will elect a conservative who knows what the word

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread 2fine4u
Well, it was evident at the July 4th parade! The Boys and Girls Club, The Little League and the Bicycle Church, but those groups didn't have any teens involved. I applaud ALL of these groups! The kids, were smiling and laughing their heads off! The parents and advisors present, were AWESOME! T

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread 2fine4u
But Tommy, our government is the biggest "spender". See Iraq War! Monmouth County, is Republican run, but where or what happened to the money, Christine Whitman sent to Monmouth? She was always down here and I know she gave millions to AP! Show me the money! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread Hinge
Good point Werner. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > Sharon, > > You mentioned recreation. I was thinking about that earlier today. I know > > it takes money > > that the city doesn't have...b

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sharon, > You mentioned recreation. I was thinking about that earlier today. I know it > takes money > that the city doesn't have...but...I think we are lacking things like public > basketball courts, > tennis courts, eve

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread Hinge
Sharon, You mentioned recreation. I was thinking about that earlier today. I know it takes money that the city doesn't have...but...I think we are lacking things like public basketball courts, tennis courts, even a public pool. I think our city could benefit from things such as these. And, as

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread 2fine4u
First of all, who is "they"? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > wrote: > > > > That's why I'm scoffing at the idea that council is responsible for > > job creation. There are programs, set up. One,

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On another subject - your blackmailer. > If the latter, even if you prove that it is > not protected opinion, don;t you have to quantify and prove >economic > damages? As to damages in defamation cases, the answer is t

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If there are special circumstances, > > as I suspect there are here, then local government has a role. It > >does > > not necessarily call for spending. Let's say incentives. > > Incentives are money breaks. The

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread justifiedright
Yes Werner, you are correct sir. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson wrote: > > > > spending money > > > > - Original Message > > From: rook782 > > > The issue of job preparation starts with

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread justifiedright
As I disagree with most of that spending, I maintain, "No, it isn't." --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rook782" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > wrote: > > > > Job creation is a government function? Hardly the American way. > > > Yes it i

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Government's role is to create the conditions that permit job >creation. That may be beyond the scope of a small local governing >body and is > on a county, if not state level. Agreed. > If there are special circumsta

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > My future little brain specialist is making up chemistry this summer > because she was lazy.but smart. Stay in NJ. News release yesterday that NYS malpractice rates going up. A neurosurgeon in city or suburbs wi

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread oakdorf
> The real issue is dysfunctional families and the lack of family structure altogether. > Boundaries, discipline, goals, role models, etc. > and that's not just Asbury. My future little brain specialist is making up chemistry this summer because she was lazy.but smart. But dd!

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rook782" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The issue of job preparation starts with the school, not the council. > What is the school doing. The school!! > Right. Close the schools next year, take the $100 million budget next year and divide it up among

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread rook782
That was funny. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > spending money > > > - Original Message > From: rook782 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 2:04:42 PM

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > spending money > > - Original Message > From: rook782 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The issue of job preparation starts with the school, not the council. > What is the school doing. The school!! =

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread Allan Peterson
spending money - Original Message From: rook782 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 2:04:42 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park The issue of job preparation starts with the school, not the council. What is the school

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread rook782
The issue of job preparation starts with the school, not the council. What is the school doing. The school!! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread rook782
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Job creation is a government function? Hardly the American way. > Yes it is in countless ways: Public Schooling College education loans and grants. SBA Loans The Securities and Exchange Commission adjustments

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's why I'm scoffing at the idea that council is responsible for > job creation. > > FDR used MASSIVE government spending to create jobs (was only to be > temporary by the way, ended up permenant). > > Certain

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree completely. I'm surprised this concept hasn't been brought up > sooner. I wonder what it would take to make things like this happen? > AP council, are you listening

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread asburycouple
Sometimes it is. Apparently you missed the whole New Deal lecture in history class. But in reality this is not a "jobs" program. The city has many real problems. Garbage on the streets. Fields of weeds where there should be grass. A perception of high crime in places who rely on outsiders

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread justifiedright
That's why I'm scoffing at the idea that council is responsible for job creation. FDR used MASSIVE government spending to create jobs (was only to be temporary by the way, ended up permenant). Certainly no one is seriously suggesting the City council undertake massive spending. --- In Asbury

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread Hinge
And honestly, when is the council going to start surprising us with some creative thinking like some of the ideas brought up on this message board? Seems to me that some of the concepts tossed around here should've already been thought up by a proactive and successful council. --- In AsburyPark@ya

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread Hinge
Well, if we're talking about FDR style job creation, then the council would definitely be at the helm...however, try to imagine the council successfully taking on a job creation mission with all of the other issues they have to deal with? Yeah, right. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedr

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread justifiedright
Nice one! Hat tip to you! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > wrote: > > > > Job creation is a government function? Hardly the American way. > > Okay Mr. Hoover. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To vi

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Job creation is a government function? Hardly the American way. Okay Mr. Hoover. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email s

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread Hinge
I tend to agree. The dais already has many problems to solve. Seems to me that MM will be a major employer in our city...or at least they are building things that will require many workers. It's in the best interest of MM and the city to start thinking about providing jobs to our citizens. Mo

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread justifiedright
Job creation is a government function? Hardly the American way. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > Perhaps MM will have a job fair this fall or next spring. > > This is something for the people

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Perhaps MM will have a job fair this fall or next spring. This is something for the people on the dais to solve. That's they're job. We can't lay everything at the feet of MM or any developer. Yahoo! Groups Links <*>

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread Hinge
Perhaps MM will have a job fair this fall or next spring. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rook782" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie wrote: > > > > " Lot's of potential > > retail and entertainment spaces not really being used, and > virtually > > no m

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread Hinge
I agree completely. I'm surprised this concept hasn't been brought up sooner. I wonder what it would take to make things like this happen? AP council, are you listening? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I believe that every kid in the AP HS who maint

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread asburycouple
I believe that every kid in the AP HS who maintains a decent grades, has a good attendance record and stays out of trouble should be guaranteed a summer job doing something in the city. We've got tons of stuff that they could do here - from beautification of the city to cleaning the beach to p

[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park

2007-07-11 Thread rook782
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > " Lot's of potential > retail and entertainment spaces not really being used, and virtually > no money being pumped back into the city. Not only that, but our > waterfront really isn't providing many jobs for the locals the