I just sent them an email offering my support. Hopefully they will write me
back this time.
Thanks for helping to correct my thinking.
Jack
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I ran
or many years,(I belive since the first redevelopement) and labored to
restore the
home to make it their full time residence.
>
>
> - Original Message
> From: justifiedright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 20
From: justifiedright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2007 1:59:19 PM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: New poll for AsburyPark
Jack,
I ran into Johna Karpinski and her husdand Rich walking through
Library Square Park the other day. Johna is head
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I ran into Johna Karpinski and her husdand Rich walking through
> Library Square Park the other day. Johna is head of the historical
> society in AP.
>
> They are super nice people. I can't overstate that. R
Jack,
I ran into Johna Karpinski and her husdand Rich walking through
Library Square Park the other day. Johna is head of the historical
society in AP.
They are super nice people. I can't overstate that. Really nice.
Johna is in no way controlled or influenced by the Redevelopers or
the Ci
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Let's make it happen!
> Please. I'd love to go on a tour like this.
> What do we need to do to make it happen?
===
I'd love to give tours again, go for it.
Werner
Yahoo!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If that's an example of what they are capable of, and how they
spend donation money, I
> say disband them. They can print all the little postcards they
want, but as of yet I haven't
> seen them do any effective preservati
Let's make it happen!
Please. I'd love to go on a tour like this.
What do we need to do to make it happen?
I'll stop bad mouthing the so-called "Historical Society"
But...before I do. One last thing about them.
As you all know, I love Library Square Park, and i've mentioned quite a few
times a
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
> Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
> AsburyPark group:
>
> Would you be interested in attending a "Secrets of Asbury Park
Tour" led by
> Werner?
> This tour would include a behind the scenes loo
Yes, for Hinge; yes for Tommy! Yes, Yes, YES!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
> Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
> AsburyPark group:
>
> Does Hinge represent the majority of opinion in this group?
>
> o yes
> o no
>
Who are you to try to control who wants it or not? This is an Asbury
Park Group for everyone who lives here and those interested in Asbury
coming back from the ashes! While I am in favor of the Mission, we
don't need another! Most of the posters that live here, don't want
the mission. I am but
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My apologies to all for having that go around last night with him
> and jamming up your emails.
>
> I go a bit nuts when people look down at Asbury with moral
> indignation.
>
> I'll try to ignore him. It's n
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Tom, clearly you can't argue with him because it appears in his
mind
> God is whispering directly in his ear. From his postings and
> inability to even consider other's points of view Kevin appears to
> see himse
I understand. Ms. Rogers is conducting an informal non scientific
data search. Because obviously with the aggressive attitude of
Broadway Arts Center Developers and the history of Long Branch's use
of eminent domain in an abusive manner, we need to make some serious
decisions. Trust me when
My apologies to all for having that go around last night with him
and jamming up your emails.
I go a bit nuts when people look down at Asbury with moral
indignation.
I'll try to ignore him. It's not easy when he's attacking my
friends.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" <[E
Tom, clearly you can't argue with him because it appears in his mind
God is whispering directly in his ear. From his postings and
inability to even consider other's points of view Kevin appears to
see himself as the next chosen one, disregarding everyone else
because God is telling him what to
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Sounds like a pretty good description of the small itsy bitsy few
in
> a group of over 400.
>
> 4 of you who really do not represent the majority of this group.
>
> > >
well than make it 5, i am not a member of
You sir are delusional. I never even said a word to Paul. I ignored
him. Tommy, you spin things round and round. Where do you get off
telling me I need to go to Toms River, when I am in Long Branch. The
nearest urban area is Asbury.
Coastal Monmouth is my area of concern. The 11 th distri
For disagreeing with you, I suddenly am a bad person?
We don't need your mission in AP. They do need you in Toms River.
Care to address that at all, or do you intend to keep personally
attacking people?
By the way, you agreed with Dan, Paul, Maureen, Rich, Maire, and a
few others that night
Tommy, my opinion of you has changed so dramtically over the last
week it isn't funny. I gave you the benefit of the doubt for so
long, but your true colors have finally come out. I guess I owe Dan
an apology from that night on Maureen's show. He was right about you
all along.
I still can't
Is this board supposed to be about a majority and the only people
that get to speak are those representing that majority?
Another reason to believe you aren't for the little guy. What about
the minority? No speech rights for them?
So how about that Mission down in Toms River? Why aren't you
Sounds like a pretty good description of the small itsy bitsy few in
a group of over 400.
The Asbury Park Town Criers, always crying "waaa, waaa, waaa!"
Let see this week the list grows.
we have
Mario
Hinge
Asbury coupala
and the latest to join this very angry crew "justifiedright"
4 of you who
I just want to confirm that justified right is in real life Tom Deseno,
attorney at law.
Is this correct.
Kevin Brown
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Tom, what's the point of discussing this with these self righteous
fools... There are many great things about religion, but these
people are blatant examples of everything that gives religion a bad
name in this country. They aren't about God. They aren't about
doing the right thing. They a
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Lighthouse Mission"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Justified Right
>
> Kevin just finished the bible study. He is here now and tells me
>you
> do not live in Asbury Park. Is this true?
Damn right it's true! Too many friggin non-profits and fake churches
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'd like to take part in your poll, but I don't see where I can
> check either "hell no" or "over my dead body."
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > Enter your
I'd like to take part in your poll, but I don't see where I can
check either "hell no" or "over my dead body."
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
> Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
> AsburyPark group:
>
> Should the Jersey Shore
All right, Werner, i changed it so you don't go crazy. haha.
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Ha! Yes, i see your point (almost). Will it rain tomorrow? and Do you
think it will rain tomorrow are both oppinon questions!!! I do see your point,
and i even asked my mom a previous English teacher (ha!). She sees what your
saying, and so do i.. However, i''m not sure i see the point
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Werner, both "Do you think?" and Will there be?" are both forms of
> questions. I'm
assuming if people take part in the vote that means they understand it. If you
are confused,
or don't understand the question,
Werner, both "Do you think?" and Will there be?" are both forms of
questions. I'm assuming if people take part in the vote that means they
understand it. If you are confused, or don't understand the question, don't
take part in it!
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
> Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
> AsburyPark group:
>
> Madisoni Marquette said No... Will there still be a Carousel in the Carousel
> building?
>
==
The poll was intended to be simplistic. A simple yes or no.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> Are you satisfied with the new Paramount entrance/ courtyard?
>
> o Yes, it looks nice!
> o No, i liked the old one!
=
The better question(s) would be:
Is
In reference
to asburysteve's comment:
Have fun, Deuds, but you have no
Choice!
What's a "Deud," dude?
Here's a
choice: allthingsasbury : All
Things Asbury ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/allthingsasbury/ )
AsburyPark :
Vote
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
>
That's an easy poll.
The poll should be is Jerry doing his community wrong by not giving
up MOG?
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
> AsburyPark group:
>
> Should the Public Comment portion
Having made numerous trips from Pa. to AC to lose my money playing
craps while I was in school, I disagree with you both.
In any event, judging from Dan's post that the 68 minute trip from AP
to NYC is too short, that brings Gary's comparison of the two trips
even closer together, which belies
In a message dated 8/18/2005 12:25:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Having
driven from Ocean City to see more than my fair share of Phillies losses
in my days, I stand by my original estimate.
Having driven from Philly to Ocean City at least 100 times over the
p
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> JJ:
>
> Yahoo gives AP to NY in 68 minutes. That's about right, isn't it?
You know, they may be talking about the border of NYC. The closest part
of NYC to Asbury is Staten Island (I drive it several times a week).
Sunset Ave to City Hall, NY in 68 minutes, huh?
Yahoo said it's true, so it MUST be!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> JJ:
>
> Yahoo gives AP to NY in 68 minutes. That's about right, isn't it?
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "jerseyjohn99
JJ:
Yahoo gives AP to NY in 68 minutes. That's about right, isn't it?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "jerseyjohn99"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, NJ Transit seems to think I'm short by 33 minutes & Yahoo is
> off by 58 minutes. Considering they have a financial interest in
> posting
Well, NJ Transit seems to think I'm short by 33 minutes & Yahoo is
off by 58 minutes. Considering they have a financial interest in
posting accurate times, I have less of a financial interest in
posting an accurate time, and a company based out of California
offering a free service has absolute
JJ:
This from Yahoo maps:
Starting from: Ocean City, NJ
Arriving at: Philadelphia, PA
Distance: 64.7 miles Approximate Travel Time: 1 hour 15 mins
They seem to think you are off by 25 minutes. So do I.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "jerseyjohn99"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>From the 9th St Bridge to the Parkway is 5 minutes
Parkway to the Expressway is 15 minutes (assuming AC is closed that
day)
Expressway to Route 42 is 45 minutes
Route 42 to the Walt Whitman is 25 minutes (assuming they've stopped
construction on the day you come, and the obligatory 18 wheeler
d
On 8/17/05 6:45 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gary I forget why we were even making the comparison. What were we
> talking about?
One of the reasons why Monmouth County's version of the Jersey Shore is more
attractive for people to live year-round is that it's close to NYC and
-You call that a train. Trains are supposed to be fast. I can ride my
bike faster than nj transit!
-- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/17/05 6:18 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Faster from Ocean City to Philly than Asbury to NYC. At w
Gary I forget why we were even making the comparison. What were we
talking about?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/17/05 6:18 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Faster from Ocean City to Philly than Asbury to NYC. At worst it is
> > t
On 8/17/05 6:18 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Faster from Ocean City to Philly than Asbury to NYC. At worst it is
> the same.
>
How about by mass transit? I'd bet it's a lot easier going from Asbury to
NYC than Ocean City to Philly. Maybe they have a bus or two, but we've got
Very funny!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -Well Tom, I guess I just hate myself to no end. [:-)
>
> -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Sandy said:
> >
> > "You get me a copy of the voter registration list
-Well Tom, I guess I just hate myself to no end. [:-)
-- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Sandy said:
>
> "You get me a copy of the voter registration list from the May
> election and I'll show you all the gay home owners that do not vote."
>
> Careful
If you drive real slow!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 8/17/2005 6:20:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Faster from Ocean City to Philly than Asbury to NYC.
>
>
> OC - Philly = 90 minutes without traffic
In a message dated 8/17/2005 6:20:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Faster
from Ocean City to Philly than Asbury to NYC.
OC - Philly = 90 minutes without
traffic
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> -Which Ocean city? Jersey or Maryland?
>
>
> -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Oak I LOVE Ocean City. I WISH Asbury could be like Ocean City
> right
> > now.
> >
-Which Ocean city? Jersey or Maryland?
-- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Oak I LOVE Ocean City. I WISH Asbury could be like Ocean City
right
> now.
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > youre' kidding me
-He was a man of intelligence?
Maybe we should get a few people with it now.
-- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Werner the state runs such efficient offices as the DMV. Ever
wait
> in line there?
>
> Government oversight is a joke. We shouldn't even
On 8/17/05 5:58 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sounds like they need year-round residential. Good plan.
>
Sounds like they're a little too far to commute to the jobs in Philly and
way too far to commute to NYC... Unlike Asbury Park.
Yahoo! Groups S
Faster from Ocean City to Philly than Asbury to NYC. At worst it is
the same.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/17/05 5:58 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Sounds like they need year-round residential. Good plan.
> >
>
> Sounds l
So people don't live on the beach in Jersey? Sounds like its time
for a fact finding tour Werner. You don't have to go very far to
see how wrong you are.
Ocean City, by the way, is currently building residential space on
top of thier boardwalk pavillions. Asbury should do the same.
--- In
They make enough in the tourist season to carry the city through the
winter. Keep in mind that the weather at the North Atantic Coast, of
which we are a part, is not conducive to beachfront activities, or even
strolling around if there were year round residential.
Werner
--- In AsburyPark@yaho
"As far as retail - you'll have no major interest until a % of stuff
is done. Lot of space to fill at 450,000 sq ft."
If Asbury has one mile of ocean front and you built these 450,000 sq
ft. of space along its entire length, you would need 86 ft. on one
storey or 43 ft. on two.
Meet you at the P
Sounds like they need year-round residential. Good plan.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 8/17/2005 5:50:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> I WISH Asbury could be like Ocean City right
> now.
>
>
> Ocean City is
Sandy said:
"You get me a copy of the voter registration list from the May
election and I'll show you all the gay home owners that do not vote."
Careful Sandy!!! Joe D'Andrea, on behalf of New Jersey's Democrat Party
Machine, is about to call you a homophobe! He's about to claim your
comment w
In a message dated 8/17/2005 5:50:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I WISH
Asbury could be like Ocean City right now.
Ocean City is a tourist destination. Go there in the winter - it's a
ghost town.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As far as retail - you'll have no major interest until a % of stuff
is
> done. Lot of space to fill at 450,000 sq ft.
Just to put that number into proper context, most of it is pre-existing
space. The Pavilions, Con.
-The only thing the election showed was voter apathy. The voters are
turned off because of the lack of positive action on the parts of
the politicians. Five years after their initial victory the only
thing they had to show for it was a new boardwalk and the demolition
of the Palace. The people
Oak I LOVE Ocean City. I WISH Asbury could be like Ocean City right
now.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> youre' kidding me, once again. No oversight??
>
> YOu'd wind up with Ocean City and no beaches. Be one giant wall of
> condos...look at the bs the
youre' kidding me, once again. No oversight??
YOu'd wind up with Ocean City and no beaches. Be one giant wall of
condos...look at the bs they played with in the number of
stories/height of building.
Give them the key? Didn't need it when it wasn't locked.
Jsut hope they manage to complete some
Ask Werner he knows all the tech stuff.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> "Where we split
I don't say that they have had 3 years to build
> because the agreement was signed 10/2002. They couldn't do a thing
> without CAFRA, and that approval was a
"Where we split
I don't say that they have had 3 years to build
because the agreement was signed 10/2002. They couldn't do a thing
without CAFRA, and that approval was about 16 months ago. That doesn't
even consider those other layers of government they had to get
approvals from."
If they "could
Werner the state runs such efficient offices as the DMV. Ever wait
in line there?
Government oversight is a joke. We shouldn't even have a CAFRA.
James Bradley had no one to answer to when building AP. How'd he do
it with no government worker to help him along?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Where we split (I think, I'm not even sure) is that I don't say
> that they have had 3 years to build because the agreement was
> signed 10/2002. They couldn't do a thing without CAFRA, and that
> approval was about
Apparantly Skip's radar for sarcasm has failed him.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Tommy sees the light
> "Elections don't tell us what the people want. American elections
> are meaningless. Let's not even have them."
>
> At a boy; we knew you
Dan I agree with you. I too don't like the lack of timelines in the
agreement. I too don't like the lack of speed for redeveloping the
beachfront properties. Totally agree with you.
Where we split (I think, I'm not even sure) is that I don't say that
they have had 3 years to build because th
Tommy sees the light
"Elections don't tell us what the people want. American elections
are meaningless. Let's not even have them."
At a boy; we knew you had it in you! It's that idea thing and if you
go way back, pre TV, it and its companions, principle, honor, goodwill
towards your fellows and
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dan:
>
> Let's say I conceded all of that below. Does Asbury Partners get
> credit for the time that they were forced through the apporval
> processes?
>
Perhaps I do not understand you. Of course obtaining approva
Long Branch has/had developers. Zippo middle guys.
Went pretty simple - each of you bid/propose want you think works in
area a, area b, area c and area d based on OUR master plan.
Ugly, but getting better.
How many people are waiting an hour for an Ocean front dining
experience in AP on a Fri
Long Branch has/had developers. Zippo middle guys.
Went pretty simple - each of you bid/propose want you think works in
area a, area b, area c and area d based on OUR master plan.
Ugly, but getting better.
How many people are waiting an hour for an Ocean front dining
experience in AP on a Fri
Dan:
Let's say I conceded all of that below. Does Asbury Partners get
credit for the time that they were forced through the apporval
processes?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w
> It is you that ignore the facts. Can you show me a copy of the plans
> to restore the Casino, CH and Pavillions? I am not asking for actual
> perfromance and restoration now mind you, merely the plans? Did the
> permits hold these up? How long has it been since the CAFRA was
> approved? Not ev
OK Skip we will live in your world - elections don't count. Feel
better now? You win. Elections don't tell us what the people
want. No need to respond now - you are having your way here.
American elections are meaningless. Let's not even have them.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Glad you guys cleared that up. In the future I promise to ignore
the
> year it took to get the CAFRA permit. Never happened.
>
> Yet another argument I've lost in the world where facts are
ignored. I
> don't think
"what was the voter turnout
Certainly a great deal higher than the
percentage that post to this board. A much more scientific study of
what the people of AP want. ...I have a different mind-set about
elections.
I've never done in my life is claim that the result isn't
what the people wanted. Th
Glad you guys cleared that up. In the future I promise to ignore the
year it took to get the CAFRA permit. Never happened.
Yet another argument I've lost in the world where facts are ignored. I
don't think I'll ever get the hang of this.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> fast track - remember? The goal was to move all this along.
>
> Vist Long Branch lately? You may not like the way it looks - but they
> got it done in more or less the same time frame.
Yes, agreed. It is not the interagen
fast track - remember? The goal was to move all this along.
Vist Long Branch lately? You may not like the way it looks - but they
got it done in more or less the same time frame.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I won't argue your point about the voters in AP being duped, or
scared
> or whatever. I just note that it is disrespectful to them. I
don't
> allege you intend that in any way; I am simply opining about the
> co
Werner,
You are fogetting to subtract the time it takes to get approvals
from Technical Review Committee, Planning Board, City Council, State
CAFRA, building permits, etc.
In all fairness, you should.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In AsburyP
> Tom, what was the voter turnout in %?
Certainly a great deal higher than the percentage that post to this
board. A much more scientific study of what the people of AP want.
I know I have a different mind-set about elections. One thing I've
never done in my life is claim that the result isn'
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>...The plan (Asbury Partners') is clear in my
> mind: minimal moneys spent and flip to maximize profits. They will
> be out of here when they think the time is right. Why our city
> council would assist them in this is bey
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> There is no better proof than that to show the people of AP want
> this plan. That's not to say that there aren't good Asbury Parkers
> like yourself that disagree, but certainly the election results are
> the best
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Asbury Partners had several years to try building up the summer
crowd and
> hasn't done so. This year they even paid for incredible musical
> entertainment each weekend and barely let anyone know about it.
>
> This was the
Gary, Werner is incorrect. The City Council is doing exactly what
the people of Asbury Park want (focusing on a year round residential
economy).
This plan was very openly negotiated for more than a year, and the
Council and the Master Developer met with any person from Asbury who
asked for a
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I wonder how many people in town realize that the plan does exactly
what you
> state here. If people were given an up or down vote on that
sentence would
> the people overwhelming say "no to tourism". I think a lot of
peo
On 8/16/05 9:39 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gary said:
>
> "But there should clearly be a plan as to which direction is
> preferred right?"
>
> There already is. The Redevelopment Plan makes no secret that it is
> overwhelmingly pointed toward residentional development, shun
Gary said:
"But there should clearly be a plan as to which direction is
preferred right?"
There already is. The Redevelopment Plan makes no secret that it is
overwhelmingly pointed toward residentional development, shunning
tourism.
When Duany was here he announced quite clearly that the mov
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I believe
> that a strong Asbury Park tourism trade makes for a strong Monmouth
County
> tourism trade which makes for a strong New Jersey tourism trade. I
see
> Asbury Park leading the way.
>
> For a town to throw away thin
> In terms of what the majority wants for AP, far be it from me to say
> it does not matter. But in one sense, the majority is supposed to
> elect officials who create a sensible master plan. In reality,
> perhaps that master plan falls short of what the majority really
> wants. However, then we
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gotcha. But there should clearly be a plan as to which direction
is
> preferred right? I mean, what if the master developer is shooting
for a
> direction that the rest of the town disagrees with?
>
> Does anybody really kno
On 8/16/05 4:22 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It isn't fair Gary because the question is so skewered. It sets up
> an "either or" scenario that won't ever exist, as even your own post
> shows.
>
Gotcha. But there should clearly be a plan as to which direction is
preferred r
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