[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-12-02 Thread 2fast4u
Thanks, Mario! It just seem to me, the link you provided really echos a symptom of society today. Some individuals take license in denigrating others, to get the victims' ire up! Yes, it has been quiet here. And so what? Everything we agreed/disagreed with on how the redevelopment has gone, p

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-12-01 Thread MarioAPNJ
om the horses mouth instead of 2nd or 3rd hand? > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: "new_beetoap" > Sender: _asburyp...@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) > Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 09:57:

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-12-01 Thread 2fast4u
the horses mouth instead of 2nd or 3rd hand? > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: "new_beetoap" > Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 09:57:08 > To: > Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoog

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-12-01 Thread oakdorf
> Oakdorf's comment about measuring success by his kids having jobs and reading > history books is laughable. If that's the majority opinion AP is doomed. > What's the anticipated tax rate when the State stops funding the deficit? > Laugh all you want. They work in the city. Their friends

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2010-12-01 Thread cbrianwatkins
To: Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP. Very nice place, I walked by it and explored the lobby. The train station and everything in Dresden was fabulous. The level of attention to detail in the architecture is amazing. NJ seems like a wreck after seeing this.

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2010-12-01 Thread new_beetoap
Very nice place, I walked by it and explored the lobby. The train station and everything in Dresden was fabulous. The level of attention to detail in the architecture is amazing. NJ seems like a wreck after seeing this. I notice there's been no significant activity on here in almost a week. My

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-24 Thread Hinge
This is where I stayed during my many visits to Dresden: http://www.kempinski.com/en/dresden/Pages/Welcome.aspx --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "new_beetoap" wrote: > > I've read your older posts and what you're saying doesn't make sense. > > Funkyness, meaning deteriorating buildings is wha

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2010-11-24 Thread cbrianwatkins
AP is definitely a photographers dream Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Hinge" Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 17:57:51 To: Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP. First off, h

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-24 Thread Hinge
First off, have fun in Dresden. It's one of my favorite cities in Europe. I spent quite a bit of time there. My feelings about AP do in fact include missing some of the deteriorating buildings, mainly because I'm a photographer and decay can look beautiful if you know how to shoot it. I will alw

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-24 Thread new_beetoap
I've read your older posts and what you're saying doesn't make sense. Funkyness, meaning deteriorating buildings is what you think is a sign of progress? Not what you wrote about in the past talking about your trip over here. The architecture, the respect for culture and all. I'm going to see t

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-23 Thread Hinge
Plus, some of us actually like the funkyness of AP. Even though it was a wreck, I miss the Metropolitan Hotel. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "new_beetoap" wrote: > > > I guess the immediate impact between you and your kids is p

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-23 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "new_beetoap" wrote: > I guess the immediate impact between you and your kids is positive. Don't you > look beyond that? That's all you consider? I hope you're kidding - right? > Nope. It's not shangri-La. It's Asbury. Always was, always will be in some we

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-23 Thread Teddysea
OK - 'Industrial park' was a bit harsh - not baiting, however the area shows very little thought to commonly accepted design practices. The lighting is horrible, nicely implemented fixtures mixed with floodlights, that belong in an industrial park. Uncontrolled glare is everywhere. I think

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-23 Thread cbrianwatkins
der: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:34:36 To: Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatk...@... wrote: > > Where are you currently traveling? > > I'm about to do a few weeks in E

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-23 Thread new_beetoap
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatk...@... wrote: > > Where are you currently traveling? > > I'm about to do a few weeks in Europe and North Africa > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > Germany - Its remarkable how Europeans embrace their culture and history. Unlike the U

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-23 Thread new_beetoap
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote: > > How you measuring progress? > > I see progress as I have two kids now employed by an AP merchant. > > For me, that's progress - I'm not handing out gas money or clothing $ to > them. Progress. > > Next summer, my 12 year kid and me wil

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-23 Thread cbrianwatkins
yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatk...@... wrote: > > I suggest you reach out to Terry Reidy, he will be able to answer ALL your > questions in much better detail than anyone in this group. > > If you would like his n

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-23 Thread new_beetoap
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatk...@... wrote: > > I suggest you reach out to Terry Reidy, he will be able to answer ALL your > questions in much better detail than anyone in this group. > > If you would like his number I could provide that for you > > Once you speak to him, it wo

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-22 Thread oakdorf
How you measuring progress? I see progress as I have two kids now employed by an AP merchant. For me, that's progress - I'm not handing out gas money or clothing $ to them. Progress. Next summer, my 12 year kid and me will be celebrating my 50th and her 21st... We're going to have a drink or

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-22 Thread cbrianwatkins
from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "new_beetoap" Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:39:17 To: Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP. Thanks for the reply. So, there is no safety va

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-22 Thread new_beetoap
Thanks for the reply. So, there is no safety valve in the contracts? That would be a huge oversight on the part of the town since they are supposed to be looking out for the publics interests. Sorry to hear that... The 'good stuff' you mention, while nice, is really not what I was asking about

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2010-11-22 Thread Helen Pike
om Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 9:05:25 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.   I got interested in AP in 2008 after reading the PR about how the ENTIRE boardwalk would be redeveloped by these new guys Madison Asbury. Went to visit and there were signs of activity but it was not what was

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-22 Thread new_beetoap
businesses to the community. > > > > > > > > From: "cbrianwatk...@..." > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Fri, November 12, 2010 12:22:59 PM > Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP. > > > To b

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-15 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 11/15/2010 3:27:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, cbrianwatk...@gmail.com writes: anyone can teach == Not just anyone. Anyone 1) who has a command of the subject matter and continues with refresher and advanced courses; 2) who has a knowledge of teachin

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-15 Thread cbrianwatkins
Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatk...@... wrote: > > I agree, I went to school in Lakewood, was one of two "whites" in my whole > grade through my freshman year of HS, so "white fear"

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-15 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatk...@... wrote: > > I agree, I went to school in Lakewood, was one of two "whites" in my whole > grade through my freshman year of HS, so "white fear" is the least of my > concerns. If the education received was better with the current demographics >

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-15 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" wrote: > > I hope my daughter is smart and I want her to be challenged, and I don't > think she would be in the public schools here where a huge percentage of the > students do not even test as proficient in core subjects! > Do you think th

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-12 Thread cbrianwatkins
ls, cultural diversity is priceless Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "fancypaaantz" Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 20:32:49 To: Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP. For those o

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-12 Thread fancypaaantz
For those of us who have kids, but would never send their kids to AP schools, I think it is wrong to assume that is based on any kind of "white fear." I would not send my daughter to the AP schools bc they stink. Plain and simple. (The Hope Academy is not ranked very well either.) If I stay here

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2010-11-12 Thread cbrianwatkins
yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP. They should also add a stipulation that if the kids get in trouble (not sure how many "strikes" to give), that the whole family is forced to leave their subsidized housing. Let the parents take responsibility for raising their

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-12 Thread maubddny
erry > > -Original Message- > From: Michael Downing > Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:24:31 > To: > Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP. > > As a relatively new resident to AP (one o

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2010-11-12 Thread cbrianwatkins
s.com Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:24:31 To: Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP. As a relatively new resident to AP (one of those who bought into Wesley Grove in 2009), I'm not sure how much new residential construction the town can support rig

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2010-11-12 Thread Michael Downing
ri, November 12, 2010 12:22:59 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP. To be honest, I don't even know where 3000 condos would go, how many are in Wesley Grove? I don't mind my commute into JC, and a lot of people I work with live in Interlaken, Bradley etc The schools

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-12 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatk...@... wrote: > >> > I know quite a few families who have passed on AP strictly because of the > schools (they were ok with the crime) but the schools were a deal sealer It is a chicken and egg thing like I said. Tommy DeSeno outlined it here a

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-12 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" wrote: > > Then when enough of those 20 somethings stay and have children, the schools > will change... Like Hoboken! > That's what happens time and time again. Park Slope, Hoboken, parts of Philly, soon Billyburg. By the time you will be ab

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-12 Thread fancypaaantz
I live here year round and I have a child who is a toddler. I work in NYC 3 days a week, and at home 2 days. Commuting into the city is horrible and the schools are a huge deterrent. So is the crime -- once you have kids, things change in that regard as well. I would like to move, to be honest,

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2010-11-12 Thread cbrianwatkins
schools were a deal sealer Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "dfsavgny" Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:55:30 To: Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP. --- In AsburyPark@ya

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-12 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatk...@... wrote: > > I'm not assuming a major decline, I'm assuming no growth. Its no secret the > business' suffer in the winter months, if they didn't they would be open > 7days a week instead of 4days Winter business is tough for any business in a

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-12 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatk...@... wrote: > > Another thing that needs to be considered, and I know Oak has mentioned this > before > > If there were to be 3000 condos built, who is to say 2500 of those units > wouldn't be bought as "2nd Homes" for Summer usage . We see this

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2010-11-12 Thread cbrianwatkins
com Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 13:49:03 To: Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP. I don't think you could assume that "2nd Homes" would mean a major decline in winter business. I originally bought my condo for "summer use", but f

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-12 Thread maubddny
> parking garage under it, or we'll have serious parking issues > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Helen Pike > Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 04:20:08 > To: > Reply-To: AsburyPar

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-12 Thread cbrianwatkins
s BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Helen Pike Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 04:20:08 To: Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP. I think the word "support" is key: Can the sewerage plant support th

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2010-11-12 Thread Helen Pike
ryPark] Re: Not in AP.   > > I doubt, and have doubted for years, the ability of AP to support an > additional >3,000 condos. > Depends. Depends on where you price it, amenities etc. Need a better mix of apartments, condos, hotels etc - and then your mix of retail.

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-11 Thread oakdorf
> > I doubt, and have doubted for years, the ability of AP to support an > additional 3,000 condos. Depends. Depends on where you price it, amenities etc. Need a better mix of apartments, condos, hotels etc - and then your mix of retail. A well thought mix from starter units on up and you

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-11 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arhythmick" wrote: > > One last thing...there has been alot of talk abiout the original > redevelopment plan and its call for 3000 condos. Many wanted more of an > entertainment focus for the boardwalk and I agree. It looks like MM also > agrees when you

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-11 Thread arhythmick
One last thing...there has been alot of talk abiout the original redevelopment plan and its call for 3000 condos. Many wanted more of an entertainment focus for the boardwalk and I agree. It looks like MM also agrees when you consider the NJ State Hall of Fame, their support of the NJ MOMA in

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-11 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arhythmick" wrote: > > Summer of 2010 > > -Retail sales up 70% over 2009 > -Restaurant sales up 30% over 2009 > -Beach badge sales up 200% over 2009 > -Madison Marquette currently reviewing 47 different businesses/business plans > who want to move into the b

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-09 Thread arhythmick
Summer of 2010 -Retail sales up 70% over 2009 -Restaurant sales up 30% over 2009 -Beach badge sales up 200% over 2009 -Madison Marquette currently reviewing 47 different businesses/business plans who want to move into the boardwalk pavillion spaces for next summer. Most willing to pay the entir

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-08 Thread maubddny
And when I bought in A.P. seven years ago that list would have been three times as long. It's great the town has made so much progress. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> You

[AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

2010-11-08 Thread dfsavgny
it's the economy stupid (not you being called stupid) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" wrote: > > Direct from MM's webpage ... > > http://www.madisonmarquette.com/about_us/history > > "History - > > Transforming Retail Real Estate, Creating Special Places > > Founded in 1992,