Werner,
It would have made too much sense! I saw it, you saw it, and many
other posters, saw it also. But what do we know? We're just the 2
ton gorilla in the room!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien wrote
Asbury Park and Monmouth County, has a reputation, of being a
Republican stronghold. Senator Palaia, Sean Kean and the other
assembly in Northern Monmouth, as well as the board of freeholders,
are all Republican, save one or two. You have a Democrat Governor,
majority Democrat Senate and Assembly
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > that was a two part topic i combined! i was just commenting on
> how big the cracks have gotten on the ocean ave side of convention
> hall. i dont think they were a year ago, or maybe just not as
> obviously noticiabl
"Chuck, I noticed the cracks too, and they seem to have become bigger
very recently. I never noticed them before."
exactly! their huge. im waiting for the bricks to start poping out, that
looks like the next step. i think asbury parnters is waiting for someon else
to step in to do the wor
Chuck, I noticed the cracks too, and they seem to have become bigger
very recently. I never noticed them before.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> "if your talking about the white letters on the west side of the
> paramout, they were individual wood letters
"if your talking about the white letters on the west side of the
paramout, they were individual wood letters held up by light weight
brackets, causing no stress to the building, rewoved by asbury
partners, and just never replaced, no load factor, no stress just taken
down"
that was a two
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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i can't imagine anyone who was half-way - intelligent or honest who
> would.
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if the 2 eternal optomists, do not disagree with you i will be shocked,
maybe its finally sunk in, nah cant be that easy, maybe they are
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Here's a question for those still filled with unbridled optimism.
> If we knew that Asbury Partners wasn't going to put their own money
> into restoring Convention Hall/Paramount/Casino and knew that the
> fir
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> i did notice some huge horizontal cracks accross the front of the
facade yesterday. about the hieght where the convention hall sign use
to read. arnt horizontal cracks the worst kind? dont know. those
cracks werent the
i did notice some huge horizontal cracks accross the front of the facade
yesterday. about the hieght where the convention hall sign use to read. arnt
horizontal cracks the worst kind? dont know. those cracks werent there a year
ago, thats for sure. i still question why the convention hall s
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's a question for those still filled with unbridled optimism.
> If we knew that Asbury Partners wasn't going to put their own money
> into restoring Convention Hall/Paramount/Casino and knew that the
> first resi
On Apr 6, 2007, at 11:46 AM, oakdorf wrote:
> >>> Keep in mind, this was several years ago
>
> There were problems there for years and years - since I recall - the
> 70's. Some concessions even escaped due to "engineering defects". (A
> nice way to break a lease).
>
> It is a very, very old b
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >Does anybody know why CH stopped
> > being utilized to the extent it used to be?
>
Well part of it, for the big name acts is the economics of the music
industry. I guess up until the early 70's, CH was a big venue outsid
I still think the city should fund a study of similar venues across
the state. Why is it that the state can support so many places like
the Count Basie Theatre, State Theatre, NJ PAC, SOPAC, BergenPAC --
places in north jersey, south jersey, central jersey -- but Asbury
Park's Paramount/Co
>Does anybody know why CH stopped
> being utilized to the extent it used to be?
1. You have to have a venue that remains current and not falling down.
2. You have to work with the promoters.
3.The city was never really good dealing with this kind of
stuff. "we're not in the entertainement biz"
4
Hmmm, what about more shows at CH like the sold out Rockstar Taste of
Chaos show? Back in the late 70's, early 80's CH had a pretty packed
schedule of shows every summer. I saw all of my first concerts there,
and they were all probably sold out. Does anybody know why CH stopped
being utilized to th
I'll drink to that!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >>> Keep in mind, this was several years ago
>
> There were problems there for years and years - since I recall - the
> 70's. Some concessions even escaped due to "engineering defects". (A
> nice
>>> Keep in mind, this was several years ago
There were problems there for years and years - since I recall - the
70's. Some concessions even escaped due to "engineering defects". (A
nice way to break a lease).
It is a very, very old building, sitting on the ocean. It needs TLC
every day.
>
>
> No, I don't think the "master plan' is to demolish ConHall.
>
> The point is, that eventually it will deteriorate to a point where the
> argument "it will cost too much to fix" begins to take hold. Whether
> true or not.
>
That's exactly what I'm worried about. If you search the web you'll
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> do you really think asbury partners master plan is to eventually
demolish convention hall? i find that hard to understand. its
possiable yes, but even asbury partners, why would they want to do
such a thing? wouldnt
"Demolition by Neglect. Engage in 'busy work' like demolishing things
that are functional and invest little to nothing on repairs.
"Hey look they're doing something !"
Werner"
do you really think asbury partners master plan is to eventually demolish
convention hall? i find that hard to u
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> That better a lot of "issues" for $1M !
> My greatest concern is the loss of historic elements of the building
> due to lack of care or knowledge. Such as, The 1930s electrical
> panels, vintage theater eguipment, 2 hi
That better BE a lot of issues for $1M.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was told by Reidy the other day that MM was currently putting
about
> $1M into Paramount and CH to address short-term issues.
>
> Although my experience here has made me wary of promises, I believe
> MM's heart is in
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Werner,
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> Very good observation - I missed it originally.
>
> My concern is that maybe it is intentional blight - as they did
with the
> Casino - let it fall into horrible disrepair and not adress the
small
> maintena
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apoojo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> ---
> > > So while I would prefer grass in the green acres areas, I'll
live
> > > with the mulch for this season. My dog likes it.
> > >
> >ok, on the flat dirt areas not the perfect but a better fix, but no
> way on the
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> > So while I would prefer grass in the green acres areas, I'll live
> > with the mulch for this season. My dog likes it.
> >
>ok, on the flat dirt areas not the perfect but a better fix, but no
way on the cement areas with a steep incline,( the old batting cage
area eta al) cmon what ever
My dog likes it too...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bjc223@ wrote:
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> >
> > Werner,
> >
> > Very good observation - I missed it originally.
> >
> > My concern is that maybe it is intentional blight - as t
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>
> Werner,
>
> Very good observation - I missed it originally.
>
> My concern is that maybe it is intentional blight - as they did
with the
> Casino - let it fall into horrible disrepair and not adress the
small
> maintena
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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i see your points though. the windows are on their way, arnt they?
>
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Yea, right, Ha, Haha, Haaah, LOL, ROTFL
6 years and counting.
Werner
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