[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-13 Thread J
MM has obligations to the redevelopment of the city. The redevelopment would mean more jobs and employment on the boardwalk. So, a good developer would see a logical consequence; more jobs and employment means certain things for the development of parking infrastructure. If that's not

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-11 Thread oakdorf
nice to see someone called back from AP. I'd rather someone from the PD instead of some large "parking authority". as for the NY PD, they were nice as well when I had to schlep to brooklyn tow yard to get my daughters car out. All the people working there were handicapped. Very nice dealing

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-11 Thread dfsavgny
You think you'd get a call from the NYPD? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote: > > > fyi... > > got a call back from the AP PD about my question on where the employees may > park. > > As of now, they are going to be able to park on Kingsley and west. The PD is > supposed to b

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-10 Thread oakdorf
fyi... got a call back from the AP PD about my question on where the employees may park. As of now, they are going to be able to park on Kingsley and west. The PD is supposed to be handing out brochures or something letting everyone know. He didn't seem 100% sure about Employee parking on Ki

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-10 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > This weekend, my downstairs neighbor and I watched a small parade of > boardwalk employees parking on Bergh as well as on 1st between Bergh and > Park. They used to park up and down 1st, but they've now moved one block west > since the par

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-09 Thread Hinge
More on the iPhone parking app. 17 reviews. All negative. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > One interesting feature of the new meters is pay via smart phone using this > app: http://verrus.com/verrus/index.aspx > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote: > > >

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-09 Thread Hinge
One interesting feature of the new meters is pay via smart phone using this app: http://verrus.com/verrus/index.aspx --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote: > > Does anyone have any idea where the "Employee Zones" are?? I called the APPU > got an answering machine. Website doesn't h

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-09 Thread oakdorf
Does anyone have any idea where the "Employee Zones" are?? I called the APPU got an answering machine. Website doesn't have the zones and city website has to be updated Whatever happened to Istar making their empty lots into parking lots? Did anyone bother to TEST the new pay stations? WOnd

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-09 Thread Hinge
FYI - Probably the most risky area for night parking in my neighborhood would be Bergh btwn Asbury and 1st. There have been a great deal of cars broken into there, as there is basically no lighting on the street. Bergh between 1st and 2nd is safe, but fills up quickly in the summer. --- In Asbu

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-09 Thread oakdorf
Well, I know my daughter has NO intention of parking "that far" west. I had to drop her off today as her car was in for repairs... "...look dad, THATS where they where we would have to park if we go for free... " "...do you know what that is like at 11:30 at night...scary as shit...you have to

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-09 Thread Hinge
This weekend, my downstairs neighbor and I watched a small parade of boardwalk employees parking on Bergh as well as on 1st between Bergh and Park. They used to park up and down 1st, but they've now moved one block west since the parking spaces were added on the 200 block. --- In AsburyPark@ya

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-09 Thread Vinnie
this is the pay-by-phone info - pretty cool, can extend time from the beach chair or bar stool http://paybyphone.com/ --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Vinnie" wrote: > > parking doc . > https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cityofasburypark.com%2Fpdfs%2F050411_Public%2520

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-09 Thread Vinnie
parking doc . https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cityofasburypark.com%2Fpdfs%2F050411_Public%2520Notification_Parking%2520Meters.pdf --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Vinnie" wrote: > > http://www.app.com/article/20110503/NJNEWS/305030061/Asbury-Park-says-new-pay-stations

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-09 Thread J
While the city has right to charge, this policy creates a nickle-and-dimed effect. Requiring seasonal employees to purchase year-round passes doesn't make any sense. Sure, it comes out to $1.08 a day, but every cent counts. There should be a pro-rated option, which would be $25. In the end

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-09 Thread J
With HR incentive programs for public transportation and bicycling, employers are allowed to issue de minimis tax benefits to their employees. If an employer has to pay for parking at or near the worksite, this is also a de minimis tax benefit. Yet, public transport and bicycling would offe

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread oakdorf
when it comes down to what the employees can afford to pay... if it's minimum wage (which it's not)... 1. Get another job 2. Work harder 3. Please graduate college. Not that today - that makes a world of difference. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" wrote: > > I'm sorry to say

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread Hinge
Agreed 100%! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" wrote: > > That's ok. It's good to be idealistic. > > I'm not one of those tea partiers who think the government can't play an > active role. But they can't be responsible for everything either. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yah

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread asburycouple
That's ok. It's good to be idealistic. I'm not one of those tea partiers who think the government can't play an active role. But they can't be responsible for everything either. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > It's ok. I don't mind being utopian. MM and it's biz's sh

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread Hinge
It's ok. I don't mind being utopian. MM and it's biz's should step up to the plate in this case. Also, there's a lot at Convention Hall. Who gets to park there for free? MM employees? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" wrote: > > I'm sorry to say that you are. Listen, I'd love

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread Claire Davids
Doesn't free employee parking give people an incentive to drive to work rather than take public transport or walk/ride bike?. Employers don't give bus fare or train fare so why give free parking? In today's quest for being more "green" discouraging use of cars, encouraging car pooling or use of

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread asburycouple
I'm sorry to say that you are. Listen, I'd love to provide everyone free parking. But every spot an employee takes removes some of that revenue you site that these same businesses are generating. And it's not the city's job to provide for businesses to support their workforce. I think way too

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread Hinge
Of course not. But tourists come to the boardwalk area for the services they provide. Doesn't that suggest that their employment helps to bring money into the city? Great restaurants generate parking income. Great employees drive the demand. I'm I just being too utopian by thinking that free emp

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread asburycouple
The employees shouldn't be taking up revenue generating spaces for free. They don't work for the city. They don't drive revenue to the city. The businesses do. And they pay MM for the space. MM should be providing space to accommodate as part of their leases with the businesses. It's not t

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > It's simple. Why should the city make money off of employees that are already > making money for the city due to their employment. Is there a local income tax? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit you

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread asburycouple
They should get 100 per employee that wants to take a city spot that could otherwise be generating revenue. That's why MM should be providing a lot that doesn't require them to take the revenue generating spot. The city shouldn't lose money on those spots simply because an employee parks there

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread asburycouple
They should get 100 per employee that wants to take a city spot that could otherwise be generating revenue. That's why MM should be providing a lot that doesn't require them to take the revenue generating spot. The city shouldn't lose money on those spots simply because an employee parks there

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread Hinge
It's simple. Why should the city make money off of employees that are already making money for the city due to their employment. I agree with one thing: let the boardwalk biz's and MM work together and provide an employee only parking area. It just seems like the right thing to do in my opinion.

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread oakdorf
$100 - why it is free in the past year, she worked avg four days week - every weekend fri, sat, sun. Call it 200 days. Under $1 PER DAY to park. Don't buy a pack of smokes. Live longer. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread Hinge
Ok. I apologize for my bad reaction recently. It seemed to me that you weren't even reading my thoughts about the parking situation. It all started when I was surprised to find the PD knocking on my door so they could paint lines without prior notification. Is that being a cry baby? If so, shoul

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread oakdorf
> > You are entitled to your own opinion. No doubt about that. Too many things > have been free around here. And to Oak, close the AP schools. They don't > work. End the free lunches in AP. Thanks Dan... Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > Dan, > Stop talking down to me. I get it. And last summer, the area in front of my > home was employee parking. And some of those employee's got their cars broken > into. One of those employees is a long time friend of mine. Do you simply

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread oakdorf
My kids BOTH work on the BW and have for over a year and two years, as do some of their friends. They try to get scheduled together so it's one car. Last year, when they parked "free" - they got lucky had a couple tickets - which I told them to go to court for but out of being lazy didn't bot

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > I know you have some kind of dislike for me, but honestly, lighten up, or > don't read my comments. I used to think we were at least friends here, but I > guess I was wrong. I have no idea where that came from. I called you and others b

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread Hinge
Dan, Stop talking down to me. I get it. And last summer, the area in front of my home was employee parking. And some of those employee's got their cars broken into. One of those employees is a long time friend of mine. Do you simply lack empathy for people who are probably making very little mon

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread Hinge
I love Asbury Park. Isn't that enough? In fact, since I got my full time day job here, I rarely leave. And I get to go home at lunch for a dog walk. All good. I don't see anything wrong with questioning the logic of making mostly seasonal workers pay to park. That is all. Just because I'm being

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > I completely agree, and I should have mentioned that I think MM should do so > for it's employees. > Picket them. What do you care if the employees have parking or not? Maybe it was an employee parking in front of your house. The city is

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > Good points. Honestly, I simply think it's wrong to charge employees to park > in our city. Employees are already doing jobs that contribute to the local > economy. I don't think it was right back in 1979, and I don't think it's > right in

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread Hinge
I can't disagree with any of that, but why should the city get $100 per employee when the employees are already economically contributing to the city? As for me paying $30 to pay in front of my house, I'll pass. I can park 200 feet away for free, and I suspect beachgoers who don't want to pay wi

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread oakdorf
It comes down to this: 1. Property owners aren't paying their "fair share" in AP. While someone might scream they are paying $10k in property taxes - they aren't paying school taxes. 2. Property owners, like those in Wesley and N Beach pay how much in taxes over the next how many years? 3. T

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread Hinge
I completely agree, and I should have mentioned that I think MM should do so for it's employees. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" wrote: > > I'm not disagreeing with you about that - just that it's not the city's > responsibility to do so. Madison Marquette/Asbury Partners has

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread asburycouple
I'm not disagreeing with you about that - just that it's not the city's responsibility to do so. Madison Marquette/Asbury Partners has lots of space. Rather than taking away from the city's revenue opportunities they should pave over a space and designate it for employees. --- In AsburyPar

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread asburycouple
n Wireless BlackBerry > > > > > > -Original Message----- > > > From: "oakdorf" > > > Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > > Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 16:53:49 > > > To: > > > Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread oakdorf
Technology is real neat. Nice you can print beach tickets from the meters - and probably anything you want to have programmed in. I'd leave it real SIMPLE since most people can't figure it out. Leave the pay station for parking. MAYBE on the BW put in a few machines to do both. Congratulations

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread Hinge
Absolutely, 100% --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" wrote: > > It should really be Madison Marquette that provides parking for employees, > not the city. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > I think charging boardwalk employee's $100 a year to pa

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread asburycouple
It should really be Madison Marquette that provides parking for employees, not the city. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > I think charging boardwalk employee's $100 a year to park is absolutely > ridiculous. Why not just set aside an area for employee parking? This is a

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread Hinge
I honestly don't understand why people don't want to make a stand for the employees in this case. They have two options, pay $100, or park far away, probably on an unlighted street like Bergh, and put themselves and their cars at risk. Last summer, there was a rash of break-ins on Bergh. The rig

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread Hinge
I think I'll just stick to my opinion of it being wrong to charge boardwalk employees $100 to park, and even though it hasn't been mentioned yet, I could care less what they do in NYC or anyplace else. I think the plan was poorly executed, and poorly thought out. And I'm not even discussing the

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread oakdorf
If my kids work those 12 weeks..june july august...at the same rate that's 60 days. That's about $1.66 per day they work. If I were running the city I would not let them occuppy a space that can make MORE money per day. If you ever tipped after eating or drinking on the bw I don't feel bad. I

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread Hinge
et free parking on Kingsley only, just my > opinion though > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: "Hinge" > Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 17:40:03 > To: > Reply-To: AsburyPark

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread cbrianwatkins
yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress) I just did some research on residential parking stickers for Edgewater, Weehawkeen and several of the surrounding cities. Their stickers are free with proof of residency. When I lived in Edgewater, I walked t

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread Hinge
> street, no deck or lot, and not close to my building either > > > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -Original Message- > > From: "oakdorf" > > Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Wed, 04 May 20

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread Hinge
reless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: "oakdorf" > Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 16:53:49 > To: > Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress) &

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread cbrianwatkins
:08 To: Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress) Good points. Honestly, I simply think it's wrong to charge employees to park in our city. Employees are already doing jobs that contribute to the local economy. I don'

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread cbrianwatkins
To: Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > I think charging boardwalk employee's $100 a year to park is absolutely > ridiculous. Well if my ki

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread Hinge
Good points. Honestly, I simply think it's wrong to charge employees to park in our city. Employees are already doing jobs that contribute to the local economy. I don't think it was right back in 1979, and I don't think it's right in 2011. Many of the boardwalk employees are seasonal, and lots a

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > I think charging boardwalk employee's $100 a year to park is absolutely > ridiculous. Well if my kids go to work 5 days per week x 12 weeks - that's 60 parking days. I guess it's cheaper then parking in the lots all parking in front of h

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Progress (yes, i think this is progress)

2011-05-04 Thread Hinge
I think charging boardwalk employee's $100 a year to park is absolutely ridiculous. Why not just set aside an area for employee parking? This is also not going to sit well with downtown employees. It won't affect me employee wise as I ride my bike to work, but the backlash in execution in the Ba