--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" wrote:
>
> ===
>
> Now there's a reality we can agree on.
>
> Werner
I've been to man planning board meetings (not in ap) where it has cost the
builder tens of
thousands of dollars (or more) to ma
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Gabrielle Obre" wrote:
>
> All of my experiences sitting in the council chambers were a hoot to
> me. Ridiculous really. They are not smart people generally speaking. A
> friend who lives out of state for part of the year and is very active
> in his community o
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Gabrielle Obre" wrote:
>
>
> Werner, I am truly sorry for going off on you some weeks ago. I know
> how valuable your knowledge of Asbury is. Your love is clear. But
> science does tell us that perception has a lot to do with us. Is it
> Heisenberg's principle
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Gabrielle Obre" wrote:
>
>
> Complaining IS useless. I even found a site (connected to the work of
> Eckhart Tolle) that aims to end complaining, gossip and criticizing
> http://www.acomplaintfreeworld.org/howitworks.html
>
=
Jack, I did NOT call you insane. I repeated a line I have heard over
and over that has been helpful to me. When I get insulted, I AM taking
something personally.
Complaining IS useless. I even found a site (connected to the work of
Eckhart Tolle) that aims to end complaining, gossip and criticizin
I thought about what you wrote before, about me taking things too personally.
I'll admit that I'm too sensitive, so you are probably right.
So, in the spirit of change that is so prevailing today, I'll take your
observation as
constructive criticism.
I'd also like to suggest that you read the boo
No, I actually don't take things too personally.
I think you are blissfully unaware of how insulting you can be at times.
You basically suggested I was insane in a recent post.
You told me my perception is wrong.
I love Asbury Park and I have a different vision where I wish the city would go
and y
Thank you so much Jennifer and Jadee for the perception thoughts.
Jennifer, your balance and equanimity is an inspiration for me and
something I need to learn from.
Werner, I am truly sorry for going off on you some weeks ago. I know
how valuable your knowledge of Asbury is. Your love is clear. Bu
-I am not quibbling on the definition of reality. It is the way that
things actually exist. The reason I said I was writing as a counselor
is because human beings see reality through perception. That isn't an
argument. It simply is something that needs to be seen when dealing
with human behavio
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Gabrielle Obre"
wrote:
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> Good morning newbee, I was wondering where the anonymous malcontent
> was. Just to let you know I drove through town and by the boardwalk
> last night and there were LOTS of people enjoying AP. Spending their
> money eating and drinki
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" wrote:
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>
..and the real reality is that realty isn't spelled reality.
"the state of things as they actually exist"
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and
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re·al·i·ty (r-l-t)
n. pl. re·al·i·ties
1. The quality or state of being actual or true.
2. One, such as a person, an entity, or an event, that is actual: "the weight
of history and
political realities" Benno C. Schmidt, Jr.
3. The totality of all things possessing actuality, existence, or essen
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" wrote:
> Perceptions are just that, perceptions -- not reality in the collective sense
> An individuals reality perhaps, as in insisting that 2+2+5 in spite of the
> reality being that 2+2+4
Oops - stick
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jaede...@... wrote:
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> I have to respectfully disagree with your assertion. Any given individuals
> perception is
their reality. No one can state something as reality without it being skewed by
their
perception. So I guess you can say my reality is that perce
Message-
From: "wernerapnj"
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:53:45
To:
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reality vs Rose Colored Glasses
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jennifer" wrote:
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> Putting on my counseling hat here. Reality is always subject to
> perception.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jennifer" wrote:
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> Putting on my counseling hat here. Reality is always subject to
> perception. Reality being the way things actually exist is always
> influenced by individual perception. Perception being a sensory
> experience of the world around us. P
In a message dated 1/18/2009 10:30:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
hing...@yahoo.com writes:
Before she was known to the world, Ingrid Michaelson performed at the Saint.
Also, once upon a time, Nicole was the door person at The Saint.
New to me but I did listen to s
Putting on my counseling hat here. Reality is always subject to
perception. Reality being the way things actually exist is always
influenced by individual perception. Perception being a sensory
experience of the world around us. Perception is based on individual
experience. We can be in the s
-
maybe "change" is needed in AP as well.
Someone to figure out AP's decades old fiscal problems and devise a
plan that will focus on becoming self funded with such a reliance on
the state, fed gov, singers, builders etc..
Story in the APP on how the 600 school districts are going to HAVE to
go k
if he knows it even
exists?
From: dapawprint
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 12:02:26 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reality vs Rose Colored Glasses
Happy America, Happy Asbury Park!
I know that not all of us in this group sha
Happy America, Happy Asbury Park!
I know that not all of us in this group share my excitement, but
please keep our own Denise Richardson in your thoughts as she leads
two busses and 92 people down to the Mall for the inauguration.
Asbury Park has been the launching pad for many famous people, I
Before she was known to the world, Ingrid Michaelson performed at the Saint.
Also, once upon a time, Nicole was the door person at The Saint.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/18/2009 8:29:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> marioa...@... writes:
>
>
In a message dated 1/18/2009 8:29:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
marioa...@aol.com writes:
But then got another promo email for Nicle Atkins' CD, "Neptune City." And
it reminded me of all you've been saying:
===
In case that blurb appeared as wing dings here's the link
I thought it was odd of me to somehow agree with all of you (non-anonymous)
contributors to this thread. All different points of view, but living here
and with a passion for Asbury Park.
But then got another promo email for Nicle Atkins' CD, "Neptune City." And
it reminded me of all you've
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Gabrielle Obre" wrote:
>
...a
>
> I just don't see evidence that ap is currently some sort of failure.
...>
>
=
Just because you do not see it doesn't mean it's not there.
Viewing the City from the narrow perspec
I don't see Obama as our saviour, I see him as an inspiration, and people all
over the world
are saying the same thing. The night he was elected, i said aloud for the first
time I can
remember in my adult life that "I am proud to be an American"
The world and AP doesn't have to be "what they ar
Look Jack, the world and Asbury are what they are. I happen to believe
that if we want the world to be better WE have to be better. Not the
world. Obama isn't our Saviour. Though many seem to behave that way.
I am not using your own beliefs against you, you can't be for free
speech for only the sm
I honestly think that it's appalling that the freedom of speech that America's
founders
fought so hard for has at times become so twisted and ugly.
When I see people on the internet posting horrible racist comments about our
new
president, I simply will not sit back and be silent. I'd love to s
when and where did I say I was enlightened? I believe in
enlightenment, but I am no where near it. If I was I wouldn't be
responding to anonymous internet trolls. And when and where did I try
to silence anyone? You don't like what I have to say. I am supposed to
shut up?
Remember Jack, you are the
Of course it matters who you are. Anonymous people can say anything
they want without it reflecting on who they are. You could be a
disgruntled failure at a business here. You could be a failed council
member, someone who lost their home, a disgruntled city employee. That
matters. The source of an
It's amazing that somebody who casts themselves as enlightened finds the need
to put
down and want silence other people who have a different vision then yours...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Gabrielle Obre" wrote:
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> Good morning newbee, I was wondering where the anonymous malcontent
>
You my friend are the master of "Ignorance is Bliss".
AP is host to the "restaurant/entertainment economy" you talk about
and everything else so dear to you.
If the Host dies or suffers serious illness all of that dies or
suffers too.
My name or where I live doesnt matter. Be glad that some pe
You've got to be kidding me. A thriving restaurant/entertainment
economy has nothing to do with a town's financial situation? That's
deluded, not you, the idea. All you do is berate this town and the
people who enjoy and love it.
You my friend are a master of projection.
Once again I'll try, what
Its very clear that you just dont "get-it".
All the good things you mention have nothing to do with if AP is
financially solvent or not.
All those good things have nothing to do with if the redevelopment
has been a success or not.
Its ok to not care about the workings of a town, please contin
Good morning newbee, I was wondering where the anonymous malcontent
was. Just to let you know I drove through town and by the boardwalk
last night and there were LOTS of people enjoying AP. Spending their
money eating and drinking and taking up parking spaces and providing
work for all sorts of peo
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