rs but I'm sure he could offer some unbiased opinion
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Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:05:05
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote:
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> I don't view from the side of the developer, I look at things objectively
> from both sides, that's the logical way
>
> In fact, I'm on board with 99% of YOUR views
>
Woo-Hoo good to know
As I recall you are involved in
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote:
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> Actually you said..
> "Certainly there needs to be a 'profit' motive to i
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote:
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> >
> > Show me a developer where their primary purpose is NOT profits
>
> every govt project.
>
Redevelopment IS a government project...
Werner
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote:
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> Actually you said..
> "Certainly there needs to be a 'profit' motive to interest developers but
> that is not the primary purpose"
>
> For a developer it in fact the primary purpose
>
> Show me a developer where their primary
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote:
>
> That's my point. IStar owns the redevelopment rights to build 3,000 units
> plus retail.
>
> Those rights, I think, are worth at least $70m. Then they onw the land.
>
Just a few corrections.. iStar does not own the rights to 3000+ unit
>
> Show me a developer where their primary purpose is NOT profits
>
>
every govt project.
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Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 15:25:13
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote:
>
> Redeve
1. The "original" plan/sketch for "wesley grove" looks nothing like what was
built. A cheap version. And not to offend anyone that is happy that they made
it a home. Some got in high and are happy and some got in "low" and are happy.
Personally I think and have always said it's one of the uglies
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote:
>
> Redevelopment from a city/town perspective does not have a profit motive
>
> But from a developer/builder perspective it is 100% a profit motive
>
> Companies just don't build to benefit communtities and its citizens, that is
>
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apoojo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > 2 questions? anyone can answer, i think dan and oakdorf are the
most
> versed on these, 1. isn't it common that most citys overvalue their
own
> peoperites because they are tax exempt?
Many tax exempt or abated prop
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> 2 questions? anyone can answer, i think dan and oakdorf are the most
versed on these, 1. isn't it common that most citys overvalue their own
peoperites because they are tax exempt? 2. there is no question the
partners
This is like the online version of Groundhog Day
On Mar 28, 2007, at 6:29 PM, mima4k wrote:
Sanjaya and his fauxhawk??
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I blame Sanjaya
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote:
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yah
Sanjaya and his fauxhawk??
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I blame Sanjaya
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote:
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > like the entire property isn't ready to be
I blame Sanjaya
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote:
> >
> >
> > > like the entire property isn't ready to be inhabited. All of the
> > courtyards still have plywood
> > > covering up things.
> >
> > I
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > like the entire property isn't ready to be inhabited. All of the
> courtyards still have plywood
> > covering up things.
>
> I guess in about "two weeks"?
>
This site is screwing up putting posts multiple times
> like the entire property isn't ready to be inhabited. All of the
courtyards still have plywood
> covering up things.
I guess in about "two weeks"?
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yeah, and piss alot of people off. We should not be asked to pay
for the mistakes that this
> city has made. And we should not have to pay more tax and get
nothing in return.
> Terrible idea Allan.
> In case you haven't he
Nope. Nobody in yet.
Some of the units do appear to be finished though with sheetrocking and all,
but it still looks
like the entire property isn't ready to be inhabited. All of the courtyards
still have plywood
covering up things.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED
> > Simple raise the taxes. That would solve a few problems
>
How about looking to get something called ratables - like a real
business/office complex in town.
Since I've been board free for a few days -
Has anyone moved into Wesley Grove yet?
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> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:49:37 AM
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Redevelopment is Huge Success - Not
>
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Hinge" wrote:
> >
> > Meanwhile, we can barely get people off their asses to protest the
Simple raise the taxes. That would solve a few problems
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On Mar 28, 2007, at 11:18 AM, dfsavgny wrote:
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > The truth is, Asbury thought that building condos would solve all of
> our problems, without
> > taking the time to realize that the problems in Asbury combined with
> the
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Meanwhile, we can barely get people off their asses to protest the
war in Iraq.
> I'd love to see a large group of us get together and force the
council to address the Partners
> actions.
Me too. I wasn't always bald.
Meanwhile, we can barely get people off their asses to protest the war in Iraq.
I'd love to see a large group of us get together and force the council to
address the Partners
actions.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The truth is, Asbury thought that building condos would solve all of
our problems, without
> taking the time to realize that the problems in Asbury combined with
the real estate
> market will keep people away.
Jack, ther
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I guess it's not surprising that they didn't have a backup plan just
in case something like this
> would happen.
>
Jack, it is like talking to a brick wall. They have been offered money
already for muni plaza. No action.
And another thing. Last year, when I contacted Hugh Lamie about the
construction sites,
he told me that the Albion rubble was going to be used to fix OUR streets. Why
then do I
see those trucks heading out of town?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> <>Reidy said he does not yet have the answer for how the revenue gap
> will be resolved.
>
> A: The "Great Gazoo"
>
> Talk to Dan, Sell 1 Muni Plaza and move the Public Works off main
> street as well and the firehouse.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Excerpt from an article in todays Press:
>
> ...
> Gregory Mayers, the city's chief financial officer, met with
> Steinmetz on Monday and said afterward that one of the reasons for
> the reduction in city ratables was
The truth is, Asbury thought that building condos would solve all of our
problems, without
taking the time to realize that the problems in Asbury combined with the real
estate
market will keep people away.
On my street ( which is becoming filled, once again, with spring awakened
hookers) i'm
I guess it's not surprising that they didn't have a backup plan just in case
something like this
would happen.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> <>Reidy said he does not yet have the answer for how the revenue gap
> will be resolved.
>
> A: The "Great G
<>Reidy said he does not yet have the answer for how the revenue gap
will be resolved.
A: The "Great Gazoo"
Talk to Dan, Sell 1 Muni Plaza and move the Public Works off main
street as well and the firehouse. All nice real estate.
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Gee, not so shocking...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Excerpt from an article in todays Press:
>
> ...
> Gregory Mayers, the city's chief financial officer, met with
> Steinmetz on Monday and said afterward that one of the reasons for
> the reduc
You don't think that would cause bigger problems? Tell the residents that you
can't ride during this period however if you rent...
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Sent: Monday, March 5, 2007 11:14:42 AM
Subject:
It's like a dream, Werner! Thanks, I enjoy reading articles, that
have a positive outcome!
S
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Checking into Portland's redevelopment I came across this piece that
> reminded me of the "Bikeway" issues here in Asbury Pa
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I've noticed that towns that have a greater concentration of trash
cans also have less litter on the ground.
Whose going to teach kids to throw the trash in the can?
I had some involvement in a property on the west side - we had a
er if the trash
can was right there instead of searching for a trash can which can be very
difficult in many instances.
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Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Redevelopment vs Train Line, or
So we agree that for reasons not necessarily attributed to individual
officers, that they do not police effectively? It should be noted
that I was not attacking anyone in particular; and that when I called
them from the boardwalk 3-7 times a week, they had very good response
times.
--- In Asb
I don't think that the things you've mentioned have anything at all to
do with the AP PD. Personally, I think they do a great job, there's
just not enough of them.
The graffitti and used condom are typical of AP. The other day, I
found a used condom on my lawn. Disgusting. I am so fricken sick of
p
Oh, and didn't realize that suddenly the bike issue we've been
arguing about for weeks suddenly shifted to main st. Should I have
opened on Main, where there is significantly more risk of cycling
accidents?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPa
I didn't realize people weren't littering or J-walking on Ocean Ave.
It is I who should apologize.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler"
> wrote:
> >
> >
> I didn't know he was riding a bike on Main St. th
Leave the police out of it, we can't even get them to police
effectively, never mind teach bike safety. Just strolled 1 Block of
the boardwalk. Saw (and photographed) two brand new examples of
grafitti, a homemade crack pipe on Confetti's counter, a used condom
on the boards in front of arcade(
The city is already putting enforcers up there in-season, ANYWAY!
Can't we agree that if they pay attention to the boardwalk, as
opposed to it's female merchants, that they only enforce when it's
necessary? They are selectively enforcing it anyway, with no stable
criteria for doing so.
--- In
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>
I didn't know he was riding a bike on Main St. thanks for the info.
We alredy had a trgic death of James Morrison at the deep; Is the
> city going to actually start communicating with merchants now? Is
it
We alredy had a trgic death of James Morrison at the deep; Is the
city going to actually start communicating with merchants now? Is it
going to take a tragic death of an expendable boardwalk merchant to
have the city EFFECTIVELY patrol it's boardwalk?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <
Do schools still teach bike safety?
When I was a kid growing up in Eatontown, we had bike safety classes
both in school as well as one sponsored by the police dept. After the
PD course, you got a certificate and a permit.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ---
I'll tell you the same thing I told everyone else regarding going to
counsel meetings. First, I spent a carrer going to useless (to/for
me) meetings. Second, I felt that as a newcomer, and a bike shop
owner that my opinion would not hold any water; seemingly only to
serve my business. I TOLD EV
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
The point is people were taught not to litter or jwalk and they still
do it. The sane will go for bike safety. It all starts at home and it
seems like the home just don't care. It will have to take a tragic
death for peopl
So what's your point?
When you see somebody littering, what do you do? Ignore it like most
people.
I don't.
It amazes me how many people in AP just throw their trash on the
ground. People of all ages, from all walks of life. Why does it happen
so much here, but not in the surrounding towns?
I also
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
At the same time you can teach the people not to jwalk and litter too.
Lot's of Luck.
"In theory you are correct, a 5 MPH limit. But, unfortunately,
people
> don't play by the rules. Most will speed recklessly and
"In theory you are correct, a 5 MPH limit. But, unfortunately, people
don't play by the rules. Most will speed recklessly and cause much
anxiety for those walking on the boardwalk."
I tend to disagree with this. I think there are many responsible
cyclists, but on the other hand, I don't think
...Speed bumps.
I went right through AP on my bike (on boards) to Belmar for the
bikinis.
Exercise, I told her.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>
Answer this question. Why didn't you go before the ENTIRE COUNCIL
when they had the hearing on extending the time of riding on the BW?
That was the time to tell the world of the Reidy and Kinmon promise
and wh
And, I respectfully disagree. I think that if you want to ride your
bike on the boards; enjoy the scenery, the air, and the (illegally in
AP) scantilly clad people, you need to concede that everyone needs to
be safe. And I understand why peoiple feel threatened by bikes. If
you want to do 20MPH
Exactly. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone that came in my shop that
I didn't exhibit some form of goodwill to. Not to mention thousands of
dollars worth of donations to charities within city limits. To all of
those who see this a a black and white issue of ordinance vs. common
sense, and wo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> So surries would be allowed in a special lane but not bikes? What
you suggest is that the boardwalk cater to the business.
Isn't that the idea? Should we screw them? Cater buisnesses that cater
to the public, s
That's why it makes no sense that Reidy came to me so sure that a
lane was imminent. Was I set up?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj"
> wrote:
> > Which goes to my original reason for refering to the Portl
I'm not criticizing you. Believe me, I have faults! The difference
between myself and the opposition, is that I CAN ADMIT IT
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler"
> wrote:
> >
> > Regarding me having
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Which goes to my original reason for refering to the Portland
> article.
>
> It's an issue of planning. Not just locally, but on a regional
level.
>
> Asbury Park is cursed with myopic thinking, tunnel vision, not
be
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Regarding me having should have hung out, feel free to see the new
> words of wisdom I added to my website; to see the reasons, that in
> retrospect, my flight is a blessing in disguise.
I am not finding fault
is that the boardwalk cater to the business.
>
>
>
> - Original Message
> From: dfsavgny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 5, 2007 10:20:37 AM
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Redevelopment vs Train Line, or Never the
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>
>
> - Original Message
> From: dfsavgny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 5, 2007 10:20:37 AM
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Redevelopment vs Train Line, or Never the
train shall meet ?
>
> --- In [EMAIL PROT
and why hang out and wait for potential business, when viable
business is to be had NOW outside asbury?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, firemer@ wrote:
> >
> > In theory you are correct, a 5 MPH limit. But, unfortuna
lk cater to the business.
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Sent: Monday, March 5, 2007 10:20:37 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Redevelopment vs Train Line, or Never the train shall
meet ?
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, [E
And as a side note, Asbury Partners, LLC would have, and in fact did,
tell me anything I wanted to hear; to get me to be the first to sign
a lease. And so my playing pawn to politics here began. Did not the
developer, or the city, or the C of C have any moral or ethical
responsibility to disco
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Had he hung out, AND had a bike lane been put on Ocean, it would
have
> been amenable. There should be a bike lane from town to town along
the
> ocean street.
>=
Which
Regarding me having should have hung out, feel free to see the new
words of wisdom I added to my website; to see the reasons, that in
retrospect, my flight is a blessing in disguise. I was not in my
space long before I learned to keep one eye over my shoulder at all
times. So I respect any comm
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In theory you are correct, a 5 MPH limit. But, unfortunately, people
don't play by the rules. Most will speed recklessly and cause much
anxiety for those walking on the boardwalk.
>
The limited hours for bike riding were fine, h
speed recklessly and cause
much anxiety for those walking on the boardwalk.
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 9:39 AM
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Redevelopment vs Train Line, or Never the
tr
selective enforcement is the norm anyway
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wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler"
> wrote:
> >
> > It's like we had mutually agreed, It didn't need to be a
difficult
> > issue. A lane with a 5 MPH
9:39 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Redevelopment vs Train Line, or Never the train shall
meet ?
It's like we had mutually agreed, It didn't need to be a difficult
issue. A lane with a 5 MPH limit. Period. For youths and Spandex clad
racers alike. Period. Outside of these parameters
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> It's like we had mutually agreed, It didn't need to be a difficult
> issue. A lane with a 5 MPH limit. Period. For youths and Spandex
clad...
==
As m
It's like we had mutually agreed, It didn't need to be a difficult
issue. A lane with a 5 MPH limit. Period. For youths and Spandex clad
racers alike. Period. Outside of these parameters, your asked to
leave, warned, fined, whatever. Period. Simple? Simple to me, but
maybe I'm the simple minded
I guess it's a matter of taste. I just looks too Disney or Universal Studios to
me.
I like the funky old Coney Island ambiance, but that's just me.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> hinge - didnt get to read it yet, cause im heading out the door. t
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They were the only ones to bid on the tax liens.
The only reason for that, was because the public tax lien sale was canceled by
the City. Then
the liens were sold out of public view duing the bankruptcy settlement.
To imply
ya see, asbury partners is doing something, so they are ok in my book...but
most of the
people like gary dont live in town and just talk alot of shit on this
board...he couldnt even
keep an office in asbury (he did for about 15 mins)...i am just saying for all
the non
residents on this messag
didnt fully read everything, but thats a good point. ANYONE out there whos againts outside help, people that dont live in asbury park. reconfigure your thinking. the people who are running this development are out of towners. even if it were a different development group, they would still be
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lightgrw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
They were the only ones to bid on the tax liens.
BTW Rolemover, if you're so against people who do not live in Asbury
> making decisions or suggestions for the town how do you feel about
the
> people in charge of
i am happy with the progress and i have been paying taxes and have been
involved in
communitty progects all my life...it is amazing to me that you can not see the
progress,
new streets, new lights, new building, no more prositutes, people on the
boardwalk all
summer long, new shops on the boa
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lightgrw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
When The Plan for the Waterfront is announced it will not your socks
off. From what I've seen and heard it will become the desination
point for the entire NE at the very least. Don't think the music
scene will disapear it
> It is also the attitude of long-time Asbury residents like you that
> have kept the town in the dark for so long. Asbury has never wanted
> help from outside its city limits, has shunned help from the county an
AND TRENTON has 10 of thosands people working there on a daily basis.
Take a qu
BTW Rolemover, if you're so against people who do not live in Asbury making decisions or suggestions for the town how do you feel about the people in charge of the redevelopment? They were not Asbury long-timers. They're in it for the money. I would have thought you would have been outraged that
> > an OUT OF TOWNER!!! please dont say WE when you talk about asbury anymore,
> > it is an insult to the LONGTIME tax payers here...sam 8th ave resident
> >
It is also the attitude of long-time Asbury residents like you that have kept the town in the dark for so long. Asbury has never want
> saving our city
>
> The point was not about any unhappiness.
> It was about listening to what others, including non-residents,
have to say.
>
>
>
>
> Original Message
> Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Redevelopment News Date: 11/4/2006 8:57
>
> > And when they were served, he regarded them with a penetrating stare . . .
> >
> > Then he spoke great Words of Wisdom as he sat there on that chair:
> >
> > "To eat these things," said my uncle, "you must exercise great car
;THE FUTURE STARTED HERE" good job guys...thank you for saving our
city
The point was not about any unhappiness.
It was about listening to what others, including non-residents, have to
say.
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[AsburyPark] Re: Redevelopment News
hem with a penetrating stare . . .
>
> Then he spoke great Words of Wisdom as he sat there on that chair:
>
> "To eat these things," said my uncle, "you must exercise great care.
> You may swallow down what's solid . . .
>
>
> BUT . . . y
; Then he spoke great Words of Wisdom as he sat there on that chair:
>
> "To eat these things," said my uncle, "you must exercise great care.
> You may swallow down what's solid . . .
>
>
> BUT . . . you must spit out the air!"
>
> And .
ned good advice to follow.
Do a lot of spitting out the hot air. And be
careful what you swallow."
Cordiali
saluti,
Original Message
Subj:
[AsburyPark] Re: Redevelopment News
Date:
11/4/2006 3:53:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
From:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lightgrw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> There was some big redevelopment news in the newspaper last week!
>
> An entertainment district featuring a $40 million, 100,000 square foot
> complex; a four-story, 700-car parking garage; restaurants, bars and
> clubs
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