[AsburyPark] Re: Redevelopment vs Train Line, or Never the train shall
meet ?
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Allan Peterson
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> So surries would be allowed in a special lane but not bikes? What
you suggest is that the boardwalk cater to the business.
Isn't that the idea?
It's like a dream, Werner! Thanks, I enjoy reading articles, that
have a positive outcome!
S
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Checking into Portland's redevelopment I came across this piece that
> reminded me of the "Bikeway" issues here in Asbury Pa
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> I've noticed that towns that have a greater concentration of trash
cans also have less litter on the ground.
Whose going to teach kids to throw the trash in the can?
I had some involvement in a property on the west side - we had a
er if the trash
can was right there instead of searching for a trash can which can be very
difficult in many instances.
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Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Redevelopment vs Train Line, or
So we agree that for reasons not necessarily attributed to individual
officers, that they do not police effectively? It should be noted
that I was not attacking anyone in particular; and that when I called
them from the boardwalk 3-7 times a week, they had very good response
times.
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I don't think that the things you've mentioned have anything at all to
do with the AP PD. Personally, I think they do a great job, there's
just not enough of them.
The graffitti and used condom are typical of AP. The other day, I
found a used condom on my lawn. Disgusting. I am so fricken sick of
p
Oh, and didn't realize that suddenly the bike issue we've been
arguing about for weeks suddenly shifted to main st. Should I have
opened on Main, where there is significantly more risk of cycling
accidents?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPa
I didn't realize people weren't littering or J-walking on Ocean Ave.
It is I who should apologize.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler"
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> I didn't know he was riding a bike on Main St. th
Leave the police out of it, we can't even get them to police
effectively, never mind teach bike safety. Just strolled 1 Block of
the boardwalk. Saw (and photographed) two brand new examples of
grafitti, a homemade crack pipe on Confetti's counter, a used condom
on the boards in front of arcade(
The city is already putting enforcers up there in-season, ANYWAY!
Can't we agree that if they pay attention to the boardwalk, as
opposed to it's female merchants, that they only enforce when it's
necessary? They are selectively enforcing it anyway, with no stable
criteria for doing so.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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I didn't know he was riding a bike on Main St. thanks for the info.
We alredy had a trgic death of James Morrison at the deep; Is the
> city going to actually start communicating with merchants now? Is
it
We alredy had a trgic death of James Morrison at the deep; Is the
city going to actually start communicating with merchants now? Is it
going to take a tragic death of an expendable boardwalk merchant to
have the city EFFECTIVELY patrol it's boardwalk?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <
Do schools still teach bike safety?
When I was a kid growing up in Eatontown, we had bike safety classes
both in school as well as one sponsored by the police dept. After the
PD course, you got a certificate and a permit.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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I'll tell you the same thing I told everyone else regarding going to
counsel meetings. First, I spent a carrer going to useless (to/for
me) meetings. Second, I felt that as a newcomer, and a bike shop
owner that my opinion would not hold any water; seemingly only to
serve my business. I TOLD EV
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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The point is people were taught not to litter or jwalk and they still
do it. The sane will go for bike safety. It all starts at home and it
seems like the home just don't care. It will have to take a tragic
death for peopl
So what's your point?
When you see somebody littering, what do you do? Ignore it like most
people.
I don't.
It amazes me how many people in AP just throw their trash on the
ground. People of all ages, from all walks of life. Why does it happen
so much here, but not in the surrounding towns?
I also
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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At the same time you can teach the people not to jwalk and litter too.
Lot's of Luck.
"In theory you are correct, a 5 MPH limit. But, unfortunately,
people
> don't play by the rules. Most will speed recklessly and
"In theory you are correct, a 5 MPH limit. But, unfortunately, people
don't play by the rules. Most will speed recklessly and cause much
anxiety for those walking on the boardwalk."
I tend to disagree with this. I think there are many responsible
cyclists, but on the other hand, I don't think
...Speed bumps.
I went right through AP on my bike (on boards) to Belmar for the
bikinis.
Exercise, I told her.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Answer this question. Why didn't you go before the ENTIRE COUNCIL
when they had the hearing on extending the time of riding on the BW?
That was the time to tell the world of the Reidy and Kinmon promise
and wh
And, I respectfully disagree. I think that if you want to ride your
bike on the boards; enjoy the scenery, the air, and the (illegally in
AP) scantilly clad people, you need to concede that everyone needs to
be safe. And I understand why peoiple feel threatened by bikes. If
you want to do 20MPH
Exactly. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone that came in my shop that
I didn't exhibit some form of goodwill to. Not to mention thousands of
dollars worth of donations to charities within city limits. To all of
those who see this a a black and white issue of ordinance vs. common
sense, and wo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> So surries would be allowed in a special lane but not bikes? What
you suggest is that the boardwalk cater to the business.
Isn't that the idea? Should we screw them? Cater buisnesses that cater
to the public, s
That's why it makes no sense that Reidy came to me so sure that a
lane was imminent. Was I set up?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj"
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> > Which goes to my original reason for refering to the Portl
I'm not criticizing you. Believe me, I have faults! The difference
between myself and the opposition, is that I CAN ADMIT IT
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler"
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> > Regarding me having
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Which goes to my original reason for refering to the Portland
> article.
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> It's an issue of planning. Not just locally, but on a regional
level.
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> Asbury Park is cursed with myopic thinking, tunnel vision, not
be
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Regarding me having should have hung out, feel free to see the new
> words of wisdom I added to my website; to see the reasons, that in
> retrospect, my flight is a blessing in disguise.
I am not finding fault
is that the boardwalk cater to the business.
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> - Original Message
> From: dfsavgny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 5, 2007 10:20:37 AM
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Redevelopment vs Train Line, or Never the
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and why hang out and wait for potential business, when viable
business is to be had NOW outside asbury?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, firemer@ wrote:
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> > In theory you are correct, a 5 MPH limit. But, unfortuna
lk cater to the business.
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To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 5, 2007 10:20:37 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Redevelopment vs Train Line, or Never the train shall
meet ?
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, [E
And as a side note, Asbury Partners, LLC would have, and in fact did,
tell me anything I wanted to hear; to get me to be the first to sign
a lease. And so my playing pawn to politics here began. Did not the
developer, or the city, or the C of C have any moral or ethical
responsibility to disco
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Had he hung out, AND had a bike lane been put on Ocean, it would
have
> been amenable. There should be a bike lane from town to town along
the
> ocean street.
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Which
Regarding me having should have hung out, feel free to see the new
words of wisdom I added to my website; to see the reasons, that in
retrospect, my flight is a blessing in disguise. I was not in my
space long before I learned to keep one eye over my shoulder at all
times. So I respect any comm
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> In theory you are correct, a 5 MPH limit. But, unfortunately, people
don't play by the rules. Most will speed recklessly and cause much
anxiety for those walking on the boardwalk.
>
The limited hours for bike riding were fine, h
speed recklessly and cause
much anxiety for those walking on the boardwalk.
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 9:39 AM
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Redevelopment vs Train Line, or Never the
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selective enforcement is the norm anyway
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler"
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> > It's like we had mutually agreed, It didn't need to be a
difficult
> > issue. A lane with a 5 MPH
9:39 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Redevelopment vs Train Line, or Never the train shall
meet ?
It's like we had mutually agreed, It didn't need to be a difficult
issue. A lane with a 5 MPH limit. Period. For youths and Spandex clad
racers alike. Period. Outside of these parameters
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> It's like we had mutually agreed, It didn't need to be a difficult
> issue. A lane with a 5 MPH limit. Period. For youths and Spandex
clad...
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As m
It's like we had mutually agreed, It didn't need to be a difficult
issue. A lane with a 5 MPH limit. Period. For youths and Spandex clad
racers alike. Period. Outside of these parameters, your asked to
leave, warned, fined, whatever. Period. Simple? Simple to me, but
maybe I'm the simple minded
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