Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Smart Towns

2006-12-22 Thread MarioAPNJ
On 12/22/2006 at 11:56:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with the Parents are they are kids tooo. The babys having babys have finally caught up with us. These Parents don't have the educations, alot dropped out of school after giving birth. Yep,

[AsburyPark] Re: Smart Towns

2006-12-22 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The problem with the > Parents are they are kids tooo. The babys having babys have finally > caught up with us. My favorite Democrat Daniel Patrick Moynahan famously warned America of this years ago. He was a respected fe

[AsburyPark] Re: Smart Towns

2006-12-22 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Enforcement,Education and Parents are the key. The problem with the Parents are they are kids tooo. The babys having babys have finally caught up with us. These Parents don't have the educations, alot dropped out o

[AsburyPark] Re: Smart Towns

2006-12-22 Thread asburycouple
I am with you, some people are just bad. Others are drawn into things they know are wrong by circumstance while still others are forced to go there to survive. That said, I think the "just bad" are the far minority of those making up our gang problem. Not that the rest aren't bad - many are

[AsburyPark] Re: Smart Towns

2006-12-22 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Don't forget they come here for oyr drus and hookers too. Are you saying that the "rich" towns are full of virtue (or "have a > monopoly on virtues" which is what you responded to below) because > their crime

[AsburyPark] Re: Smart Towns

2006-12-22 Thread justifiedright
I agree with your post here Scott, particularly on your analysis of other possible causes. One caveat though - I think the thread started with me pointing out there are "No Bloods in Howell" so I really was on the sub-set issue of violent crimes being in impoverished neighborhoods. You can't s

[AsburyPark] Re: Smart Towns

2006-12-22 Thread Hinge
Part of the problem in Asbury is that it's been a drug and prostitution destination for many years. I can remember back about 30 years when Asbury was known as the place to come score pot. Emory street to be exact. And even back then, there were prostitutes wandering around. Over the years, the dru

[AsburyPark] Re: Smart Towns

2006-12-22 Thread asburycouple
No Scott, I didn't bring up the words "rich" or "poor" in any of > this. You are correct, you did not bring up the rich/poor community overtly. However, when you look to compare crime rates in AP vs the other towns in Monmouth County by definition that is often the comparison you are making.

[AsburyPark] Re: Smart Towns

2006-12-22 Thread justifiedright
No Scott, I didn't bring up the words "rich" or "poor" in any of this. I believe when the discussion started (maybe I'm wrong) that on virues and values, we were concentrating on the sub-set of violent crime. Mario brought up the concept of correlation. Now that's a scientific inquiry. There

[AsburyPark] Re: Smart Towns

2006-12-22 Thread justifiedright
in any of those. Most of those don't make sensational headlines > or show up here for discussion. > > Having said that, I'm all for cleaning up the town and police enforcement of > laws. But let's not all be too self-righteous. > > > > _ > ===

[AsburyPark] Re: Smart Towns

2006-12-22 Thread asburycouple
Are you saying that the "rich" towns are full of virtue (or "have a monopoly on virtues" which is what you responded to below) because their crime rates are low Come on now. That's the most unfair and unrealistic comparison I've seen in a long time if you think that you can compare crime r

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Smart Towns

2006-12-22 Thread MarioAPNJ
x27;s not all be too self-righteous. _ Original Message==== Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Smart Towns Date: 12/22/2006 8:25:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Sent on:

[AsburyPark] Re: Smart Towns

2006-12-22 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You'd be hard pressed to prove that any sector of our society has a >monopoly > on virtues and values. No, I wouldn't be hard pressed at all. Just go to the Asbury Park Press website and look at that crime stats for each town in t

[AsburyPark] Re: Smart Towns

2006-12-22 Thread asburycouple
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