[AsburyPark] Re: Speech Tonight

2008-07-31 Thread cwpvt
So how are we going to split it up, I pay taxes, those taxes are going to be used for this, then they are going to need more taxes. The government doesn't have money, only tax payers have money. Every nickle of any program is paid by mostly middle class people, not corporations (who will only

[AsburyPark] Re: Speech Tonight

2008-07-31 Thread sharon_b283
The Irish, Italians, Jews and any other ethnic groups pay nothing! You owe me nothing! The Federal Government, that allowed any group of people to be held in bondage, including the whites who were indentured, is responsible and that's where the argument comes in. Whites, that immigrated are NOT

[AsburyPark] Re: Speech Tonight

2008-07-31 Thread sharon_b283
I know this; you are a good person, even though we don't agree politically, your heart is in the right place. Your mother raised a good son and should be proud of all your endeavors. You've grown up here and I know you have suffered, through no fault of your own, from the injustices heaped on you

[AsburyPark] Re: Speech Tonight

2008-07-31 Thread cwpvt
I agree that blacks have had a bad time of it, and I feel that things are changing, although too slowly, but (always a but!) I kind of wonder about this Restitution issue. My family has farmed in up state NY near Lake George (John Brown was a neighbor for awhile) since the late 1740's , (esc

[AsburyPark] Re: Speech Tonight

2008-07-30 Thread justifiedright
I appreciate the post Sharon, and your points are intriguing. Many areas I missed. I'll give the matter more thought. Always glad to learn a few things from you, friend. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sharon_b283" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I read it, but it's a rehash of what I alr

[AsburyPark] Re: Speech Tonight

2008-07-30 Thread sharon_b283
Know something? I echo basically everything you said but I have been a victim, but never "played" the victim! I'm okay and it's people like you that give me hope!:-) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "evosap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for setting me straight re your old article I wi

[AsburyPark] Re: Speech Tonight

2008-07-30 Thread sharon_b283
I read it, but it's a rehash of what I already knew. All of what you wrote is true. In order for me to "find" my history, I had to study it in college. You didn't mention Reconstruction and its' short life after the end of the Civil War, Jim Crow until 1964, so those years are what's relevant to

[AsburyPark] Re: Speech Tonight

2008-07-29 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "evosap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for setting me straight re your old article I will send my email. Great! I'll send it right over. > There is a new book out "slavery by another name", haven;t read it but > listened to author. He documents the

[AsburyPark] Re: Speech Tonight

2008-07-29 Thread evosap
Thanks for setting me straight re your old article I will send my email. There is a new book out "slavery by another name", haven;t read it but listened to author. He documents the continued efforts to enslave black americans with phony charges and work camp prisons up to the30s or 40s. heartbre

[AsburyPark] Re: Speech Tonight

2008-07-29 Thread justifiedright
Sharon from your post I'm not sure you clicked on the link and read it. Did you? I am most curious about your thoughts. Here's the link again: http://tinyurl.com/6yhg8q --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sharon_b283" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Some of the sa

[AsburyPark] Re: Speech Tonight

2008-07-29 Thread sharon_b283
Some of the same statements you made are still relevant today. The Irish and the Italians suffered greatly, but were always free, unlike Blacks, who continue to experience bias, as you saw in Belmar. After 38 years, not one thing has been done to enhance and bring back the West Side, not one thing

[AsburyPark] Re: Speech Tonight

2008-07-28 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sharon_b283" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, do Blacks matter or even count, since we're discussing ethnics? Sharon, Your wish is my command: http://tinyurl.com/6yhg8q Probably better to leave a comment there and not here, so as to not tick-off Pete the

[AsburyPark] Re: Speech Tonight

2008-07-24 Thread justifiedright
The extended version of my speech last night can be found here: Guidos

[AsburyPark] Re: Speech Tonight

2008-07-24 Thread sharon_b283
So, do Blacks matter or even count, since we're discussing ethnics? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "evosap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hey...didn't you write that there was no big deal in the "jew couple" > incident over at whatever the lake house used to be? ..different > because it was

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Speech Tonight

2008-07-24 Thread Jersey Shore John
"More specifically, its the prejudices imprinted on our minds from stereotypes that hurts us in Court." ...like Osama/Obama? On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:43 AM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "evosap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hey...didn't you write that there was no

[AsburyPark] Re: Speech Tonight

2008-07-24 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "evosap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hey...didn't you write that there was no big deal in the "jew >couple" > incident over at whatever the lake house used to be? ..different > because it was a server? could be. or because you are italian? To the contrary,

[AsburyPark] Re: Speech Tonight

2008-07-23 Thread evosap
hey...didn't you write that there was no big deal in the "jew couple" incident over at whatever the lake house used to be? ..different because it was a server? could be. or because you are italian? i recently asked dan for a copy of that piece, which he didn't have. i remember really enjoying