Werner,
My perception of AP, in 1968, was that Cookman Ave., WAS the downtown!
I didn't know where Springwood Ave. was. I was taken to Steinbach's
to shop. When I moved here 2 years later, Springwood Av. was burned
out from the riot. I have to look in the Carter book, to see what
Springwood had
Where I come from, the beaches are FREE! I thought I was being
"fleeced", the first time, I stepped onto the 16th Ave. Beach, in
Belmar. I wound up buying beach badges, for my kids. When I realize
the Beach WAS the industry here, I understood. I can't fault anyone
from trying to make a living,
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "FleurDeLis"
> wrote:
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> > Fake palm trees, painted on buildings, like we had last year,
> > depicting what? I don't know! If I wanted to visit Florida, I'd
> > Does anyone ever L
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "FleurDeLis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Following up:
> Fake palm trees, painted on buildings, like we had last year,
> depicting what? I don't know! If I wanted to visit Florida, I'd go
> there and furthermore, this is the EAST Coast, Mid-Atlantic States,
>
Thanks Sharon!!!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "FleurDeLis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Jack,
> Following up:
> Fake palm trees, painted on buildings, like we had last year,
> depicting what? I don't know! If I wanted to visit Florida, I'd go
> there and furthermore, this is the EAST Coa
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "FleurDeLis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Deal has a public beach - Phillips Ave - real reasonable. Then they
have the Deal Casino - which was open to outside residents. It to
was "reasonable" if you believe in paying to go to the beach. It has a
huge pool. For
Jack,
Following up:
Fake palm trees, painted on buildings, like we had last year,
depicting what? I don't know! If I wanted to visit Florida, I'd go
there and furthermore, this is the EAST Coast, Mid-Atlantic States,
still prone to ice and snow, cold, choppy surf, etc. This area still
enjoyed IN
"Your wrong on that - the 5th Ave Pav is being 'faked'.
Werner"
Haha. I should have been more clear. Exclude the 5th ave pavillion.
The others appear to be modern buildings. Of course they are upgrading an
existing building, so one could claim they are tacking something on... But
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Oh all right. That makes sence. I don't think its too late. The buildings
> shown so far are
modern. Modern, and that's it. They arn't "Faking" to be something else. No
fake fronts
slapped on. How do you feel about
To be honest, it's really a matter of taste.
I used to have an office on the corner of Main and Front street, right above
the shoe store
that was there for decades. Woolworths was still in business. Monmouth street
was full of
retailers that I could afford.
2008 Red Bank just isn't for me. Ever
Oh all right. That makes sence. I don't think its too late. The buildings
shown so far are modern. Modern, and that's it. They arn't "Faking" to be
something else. No fake fronts slapped on. How do you feel about the modern
designs of the buildings?
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
They took a beautiful hometown USA feel, and rebranded
> the cities look to be upscale. I hate it.
>
Upscale or clean? Upscale shops perhaps. But some of those were there
during the original hometown days. The rest f
To me, Disneyfication means creating a cheesy, fake reality that's supposed to
mimic the
real thing. Just like Mario said...packaged nostalgia.
Red Bank is a prime example. They took a beautiful hometown USA feel, and
rebranded
the cities look to be upscale. I hate it.
--- In AsburyPark@yaho
To me, Disneyfication means creating a cheesy, fake reality that's supposed to
mimic the
real thing. Just like Mario said...packaged nostalgia.
Red Bank is a prime example. They took a beautiful hometown USA feel, and
rebranded
the cities look to be upscale. I hate it.
--- In AsburyPark@yaho
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> In a message dated 2/5/2008 12:21:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> asnwer the qeustion about what you ment by Disney like qualitys
that make
> you puke
What's interesting about the disney magic is
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Jimmys, not the Olive Garden. Nino's, not Panera's.
>
I think we did this before - but bring me a nice Jewish deli...
I found my way towards seaside the other day and wolfie's on Rt 37
east.
Classic.
Matzah ball soup, pastra
In a message dated 2/5/2008 12:21:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
asnwer the qeustion about what you ment by Disney like qualitys that make
you puke? What did you mean? Modern? New? I don't see any of these
buildings renderings looking like Disney. I vision Dis
In a message dated 2/5/2008 12:18:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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Its not a personal opinion at all - I like bamboo.
However it is inappropriate for that use and place - It is not a native NJ
Coastal plant and
is out of place and context - thereby devaluing the proj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> So what do you want - "Useless Asburycus" trees like are planted all
> over downtown and now around Sunset Lake?
>
> No thanks. It's a beach town, not the hundred acre woods.
>
==
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> Its not a personal opinion at all - I like bamboo.
>
> However it is inappropriate for that use and place - It is not a
native NJ Coastal plant and
> is out o
"Its not a personal opinion at all - I like bamboo.
However it is inappropriate for that use and place - It is not a native NJ
Coastal plant and
is out of place and context - thereby devaluing the project. Same for palm
trees.
Use of native plants would increase value and be easier to maintain."
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> "Just get our of their way and let them build."
>
>I understand what you're saying, but be carefull how you word things!
> Someone
may read that, and misinterprete your feelings totally. You know, the whole
w
The time qeustion was brought up during last nights meeting. If more time
were given, would the designs be the same? Or would more thought be put into
them, resulting in a better design? I think the answer fed back was that they
would be the same. You'd think more time would equall a be
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> "Design is very important to creating greater value through psycology
> and visual cues. 'Feeling Good' about a place even though you dont
> know exactly why is the result."
>
>That's true. Design can give off
"Just get our of their way and let them build."
I understand what you're saying, but be carefull how you word things!
Someone may read that, and misinterprete your feelings totally. You know, the
whole whatever they build is good enough attitute! haha.
I get what you're say
"Design is very important to creating greater value through psycology
and visual cues. 'Feeling Good' about a place even though you dont
know exactly why is the result."
That's true. Design can give off a feeling, good or bad. Werner, one
comment you made about bamboo last night. T
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> "The thought of a "disneyesque" redevelopment makes me want to puke.
> I'd rather see them take a little more time with the design and
build something enduringly
> great then a quick fix to make the impatient masses happy."
"The thought of a "disneyesque" redevelopment makes me want to puke.
I'd rather see them take a little more time with the design and build something
enduringly
great then a quick fix to make the impatient masses happy."
What do you mean by "disneyesque? What parts remind you of Disney
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Their goal is to have things done by Memorial day. That's
>what they said at the meeting. I think they can do it, i'm sure
>their ready to go as soon as their approvals are done.
You are right Chuck, and in the end
"Did they set a time line as to when this is going to get started? Is
it realistic to think that the majority of this constuction will be
completed by the summer?"
Their goal is to have things done by Memorial day. That's what they
said at the meeting. I think they can do it, i'm su
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "John C. LiDestri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> I realized after I hit the send key that contruction was probably
not
> the right term.
>
> I believe you are correct...marketing, weather, fun and the ocean
will
> make this succussful. Design elements /
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "John C. LiDestri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> MM needs to get Live Nation / The House of Blues on boardthat
> would make a HUGE impact.
>
Keep it clean, safe and fun. A couple events per week and sunshine.
The main gateways into AP have to be clea
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> It's less construction and more disneyesque type improvements.
>
> It will work.
>
> Marketing, Weather, Events and the Ocean.
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I realized after I h
The thought of a "disneyesque" redevelopment makes me want to puke.
I'd rather see them take a little more time with the design and build something
enduringly
great then a quick fix to make the impatient masses happy.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "John C. LiDestri"
> wrote:
> >
> > Did they set a time line as to when this is going to get
started? Is
> > it realistic to think that the majority of this constuction will
be
> >
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "John C. LiDestri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Did they set a time line as to when this is going to get started? Is
> it realistic to think that the majority of this constuction will be
> completed by the summer?
>
It's less construction and more disneyesqu
Did they set a time line as to when this is going to get started? Is
it realistic to think that the majority of this constuction will be
completed by the summer?
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> Last nights Planning Board hearing was a mixed bag.
>
> Of t
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