Very kind of you - Whoever you are
Fight.. Where ? I see no fight here...
Simply opinions vs facts.
Werner
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dougthedope12345"
wrote:
>
> tremendous assets to the city of Asbury Park. I greatly enjoy your postings.
> I have learned a great d
Understandable, but I know they are paying big bucks for the
consultation, I just thought it would help. Sorry if I was out of line.
Sincerly
Kevin Brown
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Brown" wrote:
> >
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Couldn't you assist them in the restoration of the Coney Island
> Carousel?
=
:-)
I'm a little busy with a small matter right now. Doh !!
Werner "Porch"
Yahoo! Groups Links
<*>
Couldn't you assist them in the restoration of the Coney Island
Carousel?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> September 13, 2007
> Plans Afoot to Restore Coney Island Carousel for New Spin on the
Boardwalk
> By PATRICK McGEEHAN
>
> Two years after city o
Nice job Tom. We may disagree on many things but you did a really
good thing, and did it very well. Thanks.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Just got the call we've been waiting for all day.
>
> The goose has landed ;-)
>
Yahoo! Grou
>From Maire Martello whp visited Werner today:
If the Asbury Park group gets this message, it is by the grace of
God only! (I've been trying to post for two years now - unsuccessfully).
I visited Werner in jail this afternoon. As Frank said, he actually
looks pretty natty in his dark green
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is there anyway to state one's willingness to help Werner make
repairs without attending.
> I'd really love to attend this hearing, but getting out of work
tomorrow morning isn't
> possible.
That is completely understan
Is there anyway to state one's willingness to help Werner make repairs without
attending.
I'd really love to attend this hearing, but getting out of work tomorrow
morning isn't
possible.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycheech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Today, Thursday:
> To
I like that brown report! Please let me know if you can use a roving
reporter. I have no problem telling it like it is kev!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I put a short update online at _www.electricnews.com_
> (http://www.electricnews.com) .
>
> I also include
Thank you for clearing that up. I did not find that clear in the post
- Original Message
From: asburycheech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2007 9:40:12 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Werner Confined 22 hrs/day
--- In [EMAIL PRO
In a message dated 9/4/2007 11:23:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A bunch of horse shit I say. . Who called about the fictitious body in the
basement? ... the whole episode stinks. Only an unreasonable person could
beleive that nothing that happened was because of
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "because he has no income other than his rents "
>
> So he rents out rooms or apts in a building that has so many violations?
>
>
The violations are on his own residence, while technically a
multifamily, only he li
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> On the surface I agree the immediacy and treatments seems overly
> harsh for something like this - clearly Werner was not a threat to
> anyone or a flight risk. I really don't know whether he deserved
> the punishm
So are you a part of the problem or the solution? That was a mean
spirited, jab! Truth crushed to the earth will rise again, like the
phoenix, rising! This is not Russia, this is America and if you think
throwing someone in jail, is a good thing, I feel sorry for you!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoo
Tommy -
How much do you think it will cost to appeal this sentence?
Maureen
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote:
>
> >What assistance does Werner need to get sprung?
>
> $
>
Yahoo! Groups L
Please read my posts again, including the one from my site.
I don't think you've drawn the intended points here.
As for your anonymity, it is relevant if you're hiding it to avoid reprisals,
since that's exactly what we're talking about here.
Maureen
Maureen Nevin
Asbury Radio -"The Radio Vo
ession that there were violations prior to
the call of a body in the basement. Is this true?
>
>
> - Original Message
> From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2007 5:05:28 PM
> Subje
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Asbury (no longer on the) Radio aslo reported:
>
> Baumgartner, a watchdog and constant critic of the city's boards and
consultants, attracted the occasional fines for violations on his
property on Fifth Avenue. But t
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "because he has no income other than his rents "
>
> So he rents out rooms or apts in a building that has so many violations?
Wrong. He gets no rental income at all from the building he lives
in . Once again, he
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What assistance does Werner need to get sprung?
$
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t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2007 5:05:28 PM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Werner Confined 22 hrs/day
Just got another call from Werner.
He was taken out of the holding area yesterday (Sat.) at 11 AM and placed into
Pod A-1 in the Monmouth Cou
"because he has no income other than his rents "
So he rents out rooms or apts in a building that has so many violations?
- Original Message
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2007 5:05:28 P
Just got another call from Werner.
He was taken out of the holding area yesterday (Sat.) at 11 AM and placed
into Pod A-1 in the Monmouth County Correctional Institute, Freehold, where he
is
confined 22 hours a day in a 2-man cell with three people in it. He gets two
hours out of the cell, one
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> "AsburyCouple"
> I understand what you're saying about Werner's confrontational
posture.
> But Frank is right. If the judge had no alternative, why not opt
for the an
> ankle bracelet. The correctional facility they sent Werner to
"AsburyCouple"
I understand what you're saying about Werner's confrontational posture.
But Frank is right. If the judge had no alternative, why not opt for the an
ankle bracelet. The correctional facility they sent Werner to actually monitors
the bracelets. So why not simply use that to send him
"Chilling" is right. For me especially since I just recently saw The Lives
of Others, a 2007 Oscar winner about life in East Berlin.
In a message dated 9/2/2007 11:18:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And meanwhile, the horrible bungalow on 1st. Ave near the c
On the surface I agree the immediacy and treatments seems overly
harsh for something like this - clearly Werner was not a threat to
anyone or a flight risk. I really don't know whether he deserved
the punishment - it seems like he got repeated warnings over a long
period of time. But before I
And meanwhile, the horrible bungalow on 1st. Ave near the corner of Kingsley
sits there
rotting away. Why isn't the owner of that in jail also? Meanwhile, Weldon gets
to continue
living his cushy, system bucking lifestyle. It's ridiculous, and disgusting.
I've never heard
of somebody going to
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks Frank! I found this report "chilling"! Does this incident
> sound similar to someone else leaning on Freedom of Speech? Very
> oppressive and MEAN-spirited, to throw him in jail, for what? Can
> someone tell me?
Thanks Frank! I found this report "chilling"! Does this incident
sound similar to someone else leaning on Freedom of Speech? Very
oppressive and MEAN-spirited, to throw him in jail, for what? Can
someone tell me? Terry Weldon, won't spend this much time, for all of
the bribes he's taken!
---
"What are you talking about, There is not going to be a curve on
Kingsley St.
More speculation, how about sticking to the facts.
Werner"
That's how problems start, when people accuse others of maknig things
up, or speculating. You have to keep in mind, not everyone knows, or claims to
"What are you talking about, There is not going to be a curve on
Kingsley St.
More speculation, how about sticking to the facts.
Werner"
No... Werner. That's not spectulation, thats called a posiable mistake..
Settle down. Did they change the plan? Maybe im out of date. Has something
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I don't think anything will be done with the feild untill the second
curve is completed. The cuve on Kingsley.
What are you talking about, There is not going
"I agree about the need for trees on Main st. Our Main street could really use
a serious
overhaul. I'm not sure if it ever looked good."
I don't know, you'd think at one point it had to look good. It has some
nice buildings scattered along it. I think the trees would have been used
I agree about the need for trees on Main st. Our Main street could really use a
serious
overhaul. I'm not sure if it ever looked good.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Something to consider, what would have happened if all these 100s of trees
> were put
Something to consider, what would have happened if all these 100s of trees were
put to better use? How about lining main street with them!?? An area that is
in need of trees.
-
Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
Check outnew cars at Ya
I took a closer look at the tress yesterday, now that more of them are planted.
Werners points are understandable. Although towns to the south of Asbury,
like Brielle have lakes, and you can see thru them just fine. They are older
trees of course, but also not planted in such extent as what w
I don't think anything will be done with the feild untill the second curve is
completed. The cuve on Kingsley.
-
Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
"planting trees where they should not be and
getting awards for it."
Nice thing to say.
- Original Message
From: wernerapnj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2007 5:07:46 PM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: werner - Grass in front
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Werner - why the weeds in the grass all around the lake and Bradley
> Park?
>
> Are they going to clean it up/resod it?
>===
No, they are too busy planting
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rook782" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Werner, I have a friend who has a two hundred year old house.
...can you recommend
> manufacturers and I'll research from there. Thank you for your
time,
> I always appreciate your take on things.
>===
Well thank you Sharon. I know our backgrounds have some
similarities, and I'm glad we can relate in that way.
Asbury seems to be a smaller New Orleans from the way you describe
it.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Tommy:
> I have to give credit, where
Tommy:
I have to give credit, where credit is due. I, myself, am not a
native of this town or this county, for that matter. Nothing beats
fact or your own personal memory. I have heard and read exactly
what you have posted here. I never thought I'd see it in print,
especially in this someti
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apoojo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> -> > Listen Freddy I was told differant from the City.In e-mails & In
> person by people running the City to people in charge of employees of
> the City.
>
> i am curious as to who told you via emails, and in person, the
-> > Listen Freddy I was told differant from the City.In e-mails & In
person by people running the City to people in charge of employees of
the City.
i am curious as to who told you via emails, and in person, the wrong
information, would'nt it make sense if the person who gave you the
wrong in
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" wrote:
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Didn't someone post that
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote:
>
>
>
> Didn't someone post that it's the Librarys problem and they have
> their owm people who take care
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote:
Didn't someone post that it's the Librarys problem and they have
their owm people who take care of the grounds. Stop crying. Go to the
Library and tell them.
O
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> One of best ways to learn about AP hitory is to:
>
> 1. speak to the people who have lived here forever.
> 2. speak to the newbies
> 3. Go sit in the Library and start pulling microfilms out and begin
> reading the vario
; from
Tommy? http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/piehigher.asp
Cordiali
saluti,
Original Message
Subj:
[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio
Date:
10/27/2006 11:15:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is that the best you got Dan?
>
> Good job ignoring everything I wrote.
> An historian has to put his personal preferences aside and tell it
> like it was, evev if it hurts him. Bradley was racist and
elitist.
Here's an idea...instead of fighting with each other, why not come together.
Sounds like
you're both on the side of preserving Asbury's history. Make love, not war.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is that the best you got Dan?
>
> Good job ignor
Is that the best you got Dan?
Good job ignoring everything I wrote.
If Werner writes a history book that says Bradley's design and
planning of Asbury Park did not include segregation, then he would
be distorting history and you know it.
I have as much reason as anyone to want Bradley to have b
I'd like to get a transcript of last nights broadcast and check the facts that
Tommy is
posting here. I wonder how accurate they are?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'll give just one example out of many from last night. I could
> write a sho
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> He has an agenda. He is willing to disort history (by saying Bradly
> was not responsible for segregation when he clearly was) just so his
> agenda does not get derailed.
You are not serious are you? If I wer
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>
> I am a subscriber, so if anyone wants a particular article or
articles,
> email me privately, and I will cut and paste it back to you.
Thanks Mario. I am too, so just for fun I am going to upload the second
one to the fi
Hey Oak,
Have you been following me around?
Your process is exactly what I've been doing for 25+ years.
I'll Add:
-Join historical and preservation organizations.
-Attend training offered by the State of NJ.
-Keep up to date in the current best practices in the field.
-Go to national preservatio
I'll give just one example out of many from last night. I could
write a short book about the things he was wrong about.
Let me tell you up front what to watch out for with Werner - even
when he has facts right, it's his analysis of those facts and
conclusions he draws from them that are wild.
=====Original Message
Subj:
[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio
Date:
10/27/2006 8:44:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent on:
One of best ways to learn about AP h
Absolutely. For the record, I wasn't talking about you, but about the
detractors who started
this thread. It was no surprise who was on the negative side of things.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ps.
>
> I give Werner credit for all his efforts. Migh
ps.
I give Werner credit for all his efforts. Might not agree with all of
them, but at least there is some voice instead of all yes (wo)men.
dd
Yahoo! Groups Links
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Regarding "people like you" - just what kind of characterization is
that? I certainly don't
> "stand by" I participate in every public process in this City that I
can.
Don't you get the shorthand Werner - native born
I just don't get it.
As far as I can tell, Werner has only one agenda...preserving the
architectural and historic legacy of AP. What's wrong with that?
Unfortunately, it seems that the future of AP is written in stone, but
that doesn't mean that people can't still try and preserve what little
is le
One of best ways to learn about AP hitory is to:
1. speak to the people who have lived here forever.
2. speak to the newbies
3. Go sit in the Library and start pulling microfilms out and begin
reading the various publications from late 1800's.
4. then piece it all together. (Create the history)
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When it comes to Asbury I forgot more than you could ever know and
> I'm sure Tommy and few others feel the same.
> We can't re-live the past we must move on into the future and if
> they do plan that I saw we will be a pl
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>
And You ???
When it comes to Asbury I forgot more than you could ever know and
I'm sure Tommy and few others feel the same.
We can't re-live the past we must move on into the future and if
they do plan that I saw
Fred, You exactly right -
You don't know me.
You are exactly wrong -
I did not come here in the aerly 80's.
You are partially right -
I am very up to date on planning issues.
Socio-economics is part of planning.
My background is in engineering, preservation, urban planning, and
best of all, how
You can 'beliebe' what you like. The formative years of Asbury Parks'
southwest quadrent are rooted in the time period
called 'reconstructuion' after the civil war.
Many families of southern heritage migrated to the north seeking
freedom and jobs. Asbury park was a newly developing community th
I'm sitting here reading Tommy's comments about Maureen's show.
His criticism lacks any substance, I just can't bear to read.
I'd have answered earlier but only got to the PC now.
Good grief. The thought that some poor researcher might find his
postings 100 years from now and use it as an hist
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
It is sad and should be against the law who the hell is is. He moves
here in the early 80's and he's an expert on planning and crime.
What degrees does he have??
It's almost sad.
>
> --- In AsburyPark@ya
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
It is sad and should be against the law who the hell is is. He moves
here in the early 80's and he's an expert on planning and crime.
What degrees does he have??
It's almost sad.
>
> --- In AsburyPark@ya
It's almost sad.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
> wrote:
> >
> >
>
>
>
> I had to get off myself, I was getting sick. I don't no where to
> begin. I know families that lived in the southwest and
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm sitting here listening to Werner on Marueen's show.
His "history"
> is so inaccurate I can't bear to listen.
>
> I'd call in but I'd get cut off before I could finish.
>
> Good grief. The thought that some
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
I had to get off myself, I was getting sick. I don't no where to
begin. I know families that lived in the southwest and they didn't
migrate from the south. How can anyone beliebe this guy.
What is his de
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
http://www.shore.co.monmouth.nj.us/03230planboard/EnvirMidCoast/MCRegCha
> p4.pdf
>
> (get entire link)
>
Very interesting, the Carousel and the Belmont are on the cover. If my
math is correct, it lists 9 historic places
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I would never pull
> rank based upon who I am or what I've read - I'm either right or
> wrong regardless of my studies.
>
Wow - 'regardless of your studies' - that is an awesome power and
responsibility.
...
> Well I gave
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