"So all these years, those real estate experts that
continually
counseled `location, location, location' were just
pulling our
collective leg?"
no, i didnt say that, did i? people who buy condos,
are not the same type of people who usally buy houses.
that is all i was trying to get at. people w
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its just my opinion! i dont think anything major will
happen on the boardwalk, untill those 3 main sites are
finished and occupied.
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yeah, well sipk (typo). there are a lot of negative
things about asbury partners. im not taking sides
with anyone, nore have i ever. i comment on whatever
im thinking at the time. it is possiable to think
positive, and not always negative (although its
understood for people to be mad or upset).
i forgot to once again ask on my original reply, is
this 'timeline' you are touting based on some sort of
'published' document, or is this just your opinion?
--- charlie leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "When you say that the BW will be done after the
> first
> residential
> units arte in pla
"
progess will pick up speed once the 3 fast track projects are done.
untill then, everything will be temporary. ANY developer
goin to do
whats considered to be safe, and what they know will work. people are
always looking for condos. people who buy condos, don't usally care
where there located. i
"are you being a smart ass or something"
Absolutely, it's in my blood. But don't take it personally; on second
thought do. I've known people to be 100%, even though totally
impossible 110%, supportive of a position, view, person, etc.;
vis-à-vis The Fishman you appear perhaps several 100's% supp
i did not mean the BW will be 'completed', but rather worked on.
you said:
"but as ive said for the past 4
years, nothing will be done to the boardwalk or its
buildings untill residential units are up and running.
is it that hard to understand? "
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leona
Title: RE: [AsburyPark] Re: something positive?
What?
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Behalf Of charlie leonard
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:23 PM
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
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"When you say that the BW will be done after the first
residential
units arte in place, is this something that can be
found in a legal
doc somewhere?"
i dont recall saying the boardwalk will be done. i
think i noted that the boardwalk progess will pick up
speed once the 3 fast track projects are
skip, are you being a smart ass or something. what
the hell are you talking about
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" So
> don't think they'll be
> brought back to their original state ever. To do
> that after painting would
> be fairly expensive. Obviously multiple coats of
> paint will eventually have
> its problems as well. Anyway they aren't the same
> buildings because there
> are any number of things mi
i wasnt talking about the hojo building.
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My apologies then Chuck. You are absolutely right. I did read too much
into your 'what the hell is wrong..' comment.
When you say that the BW will be done after the first residential
units arte in place, is this something that can be found in a legal
doc somewhere? I did not receive an answer
Actually, the Albion, the Bradley, et al came down on 10/24/01. That
is three summers wasted. During those 3 3/4 years the boarded up,
scary, run down motels provided parking for the Paradise, the Pony,
the Wonder Bar, the Clearwater festival, the Pride Festival, the
Jazz festival, and all the
Title: RE: [AsburyPark] Re: something positive?
It's only paint? My understanding is that bricks are made from porous material but when fired the exterior becomes largely sealed. That means if you take off the natural exterior finish water gets in and bricks can crack and spall whe
Boardwalk Ready Almost!
Just In: Latest word on the boardwalk, from a trusted source, Charlie
Leonard; "yes, by this point in time you would think more things would
have been done.
nothing will be done to the boardwalk or its
buildings untill
people living, and filling those abandoned streets.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> imagine if 2 years ago, they started work on
> the boardwalk. and all those people going to the
> newly improved boardwalk had to drive though the rest
> of the oceanfront. all those boarded up, scary, run
> down mot
On 5/31/05 5:34 PM, "charlie leonard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> but its
> only paint, aside from that, there the same shape,
> same buidlings that hve been there for 25 years.
You did see the state of the Hojo's Pavilion didn't you? You know why there
is that giant fence around one piece of i
"The bw with decaying buildings is
spooks most people. While there are other things that
kept them from
buying in AP, that is a large part of it."
i dont think the boardwalk buildings spook anyone that
much really. look at places in nyc, where there are
high end condos accross from pure hell. fo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> By leaving the pavilions and stuff in the condition they are in,
you really
> are making it a much tougher sell than it has to be. I know I'd
feel a bit
> concerned of buying a property there after seeing the state of the
pa
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> i agree with you on some of your points. all though
> im confused about your starting at the boardwalk
> comments. what developemnt have you sceen from the
> inside out, done right? where they started at the
> board
> id like to agree with the boardwalk first comments,
> but they really dont make much sence. thats like
> looking at a place like atlantic city. they added
> their big casinos years back, made the boardwalk a
> more exciting place to be. yet the rest of the town
> outside of those few blocks
your looking too far into what i said! i wasnt trying
to shut anyone up. and its not beasue i didnt want to
hear what they had to say. i was one of the first few
on this group, ive heard everything everyone has to
say. i was stating what was on my mind, its america
right. .?
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"It should have been done the other way around. With
> that said, I think
> Asbury Partners has done a wonderful job of bringing
> first-class
> entertainment (free to the public) all summer long.
> I just wish the people
> going to the shows didn't have to see what looks
> like the world's first
i agree with you on some of your points. all though
im confused about your starting at the boardwalk
comments. what developemnt have you sceen from the
inside out, done right? where they started at the
boardwalk first? i look at an example of nearby long
branch, where 90 percent of the residen
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Something's not right with the block and lot numbers you are using...
I'm pretty sure CH is block 227 lot 1.016 or something like that. Block
230 is just the beach and boardwalk. There may be a discrepency between
maps
make asbury partners do what? do the things everyone
is complainging about? its NOT going to happen,
untill residental units are done.
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At 7:09 PM + 5/31/05, dfsavgny wrote:
>
>Block Lot AV
>2271.01$29,200
> 1.02$29,200
> 1.06$950,700
> 1.08$239,600
> 1.10$1,027,900
> 1.12$65,300
> 1.13$760,700
> 1.14$69,700
> 1.16$1,233,700
> 1.2
Title: RE: [AsburyPark] Re: something positive?
The "you're negative" retort can be used in every instance where there is a criticism since man began to speak. Here, we are citizens paying substantial and ever increasing taxes - we have a right to complain. We have paid for
Maybe you should take a step back and reconsider some of the things
you have been saying in an effort to so ardently defend against
people holding open discussion about what is going on right, and
what can be improved.
For example, it IS hard to understand waiting for 'residents' to
come. Mayb
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Tedesco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> You can dress a dog in tights and call him shakespere, it's still
> not gonna cause him to fart Hamlet.
Tony, I'm a dog nut, and I take offense to your metaphor comparing
Fishman to a dog. Dogs deserve better. But
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I agree the developement is atleast 1 year behind schedule. Just
trying to point out a positive
Point taken. Ordinarily one might not be concerned but with the history
of Fishman, and the fact that no financially-ba
Yeah, here's a hint for you chuck. It's still America, as long as we
have to right to speak our minds, you have the right to ignore us.
There's nothing wrong with people speaking their minds.
On the other hand, the is a whole lot wrong with people wanting to
shut others up, or attack them
Is
that the first time you said that?
-Original Message-From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Allan
PetersonSent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 3:09 PMTo:
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: something
positive?
as I said
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How much are the total taxes and boardwalk buildings?
Here's the assessments on the parcels. Block 227 lots include the
green spaces. Block 230 is the Casino and CH as well as the
boardwalk which is still listed in city's
as I said to a friend visiting, next year this time, it will look different.charlie leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
yes, by this point in time you would think more thingswould have been done. but as ive said for the past 4years, nothing will be done to the boardwalk or itsbuildings untill re
I agree the developement is atleast 1 year behind schedule. Just trying to point out a positivedfsavgny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > Just wanted to post how impressed I was with the town this weekend. The events on th
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you forgot #6 (combine with others): Many pockets to fill, scares
away
> developers.
I had to leave something for you, or our own Mr. Positive (Skip) to say.
> I think they should be presenting plans, getting approvals for
you forgot #6 (combine with others): Many pockets to fill, scares away
developers.
Lighty - "first" slum boardwalk. Ap held that honor, with keansburg
(always). Long Branch was saved due to length of BW.
When you bring people down, (even to buy new condos) - they have to see
more hope. Instead
very fast in mind mind,
>> and im stcking ot that
>>
> Perhaps they will. Chicken or egg, eh? Sorry, but I've seen
> development from the inside done right. You start at the boardwalk
> first. I am sure that if work was done on the boardwalk there would
> be more subdevelopers. Why do you guess
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> yes, by this point in time you would think more things
> would have been done. but as ive said for the past 4
> years, nothing will be done to the boardwalk or its
> buildings untill residential units are up and runni
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> everytyhing said on this board latly, has been
> bitching. everyones gotta complain about something.
> its at the point, where i dont even want to read half
> these damn posts. what the hell is wrong with you
> peop
yes, by this point in time you would think more things
would have been done. but as ive said for the past 4
years, nothing will be done to the boardwalk or its
buildings untill residential units are up and running.
is it that hard to understand? once there are people
living, and filling those ab
everytyhing said on this board latly, has been
bitching. everyones gotta complain about something.
its at the point, where i dont even want to read half
these damn posts. what the hell is wrong with you
people.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Just wanted to post how impressed I was with the town this weekend.
The events on the boardwalk had a good turnout. There were a good
amount of people. The fireworks display was very good. We all don't
have to
" but I believe some credit is due here"
Careful how use the word "credit" and Asbury PArtners in the same
sentence. They may be given something else for free. Your taxes will
rise.
Perhaps "nice job".
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