Could not happen to a nicer company (livevoip)
On Sun, 2005-06-26 at 01:31, Switch Tech Staff Account wrote:
> We are dealing with a large fraud at this time. Our approach has been on
> several fronts. As far as the net is concerned we are going to start listing
> names,
> address & phone numbers
This is what Visa International is. Not Visa USA, which is a separate
entity. Look it up. Realize that the international arms of credit card
companies are actually separate corporations/organizations and are not
owned by their US counterparts. For the most part, what you're
suggesting is already in
Yep and theres 40 million cards out on the loose now..
bet well see an increase in frauds soon.
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Email based transactions kill the purpose of realtime..
i prefer an API of some sort with vendor user/pass on https or something.
soap xml anything like versign does
email is taking a step back and i mean way back..
but good ideas coming in ..
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Race Vanderdecken wrote:
As someone posted, much of the fraud occurs on the weekends. I
would wager that more of it takes place on the holiday weekends when the
operator is out spending time on the yacht [...]
The same happens with spammers and scammers. They are very active also
over
Gentlemen,
We must return to basic security procedures.
As someone posted, much of the fraud occurs on the weekends. I
would wager that more of it takes place on the holiday weekends when the
operator is out spending time on the yacht he bought with all the VOIP
money he made.
> Who said we need Visa's permission to do this?
Visa does.Any company that handles cardholder data for merchants,
issuers, or acquirers has to be approved by visa, which means going
through the CISP program and associated audits.
And any merchant or acquirer that is compromised and not compl
snacktime wrote:
Why not doing something easier
Just for example making a blacklist-e164.org domain and putting
the offending numbers with a redirection to nowhere for example
As like RBLS's for emails
So anybody can use it
Just so people know. You can't run a service like that where you
stor
Mike Benoit wrote:
Not only that, I would hazard to guess the majority of the fraud out
there is from people with access to hundreds, if not thousands, or tens
of thousands of valid credit card numbers and card holder information.
These people could easily sign up 10 accounts at every VOIP provi
Not only that, I would hazard to guess the majority of the fraud out
there is from people with access to hundreds, if not thousands, or tens
of thousands of valid credit card numbers and card holder information.
These people could easily sign up 10 accounts at every VOIP provider in
existence and
Okay... this is turning into a hard, but fun, problem.
No way to store the MD5 of the CC #. I did some back of the napkin and
you could figure out the CC # from the MD5 pretty easily (CC # are 16
digits, but the last digit is a checksum, so they're only 15 digits.
There are "common" beginnin
>
> Why not doing something easier
> Just for example making a blacklist-e164.org domain and putting
> the offending numbers with a redirection to nowhere for example
> As like RBLS's for emails
> So anybody can use it
Just so people know. You can't run a service like that where you
store cardho
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> Michael Welter
> Envoyé : dimanche 19 juin 2005 23:15
> À : Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> Objet : Re: [Asterisk-biz] RE: VISA - MC - Frau
Danny Froberg wrote:
Well maybe time to create such an entity, since none thats
international / global exists, and it's definitely not cost efficient to
signup with every local credit information system on the planet ;)
Heck if I know, we need some way to protect ourselves.
And the system wou
Well maybe time to create such an entity, since none thats
international / global exists, and it's definitely not cost efficient to
signup with every local credit information system on the planet ;)
Heck if I know, we need some way to protect ourselves.
And the system wouldn't contain any credit
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> Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2005 9:40 AM
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] RE: VISA - MC - Fraud
>
> Danny Froberg wrote:
> > How about a members only system
Danny Froberg wrote:
How about a members only system?
A company has a problem with a person / company / card, report it to the
system, company #2 gets a signup that matches an entry in the database
and callback returns a alert flag so the second company can do manual
authorization/activation...
How about a members only system?
A company has a problem with a person / company / card, report it to the
system, company #2 gets a signup that matches an entry in the database
and callback returns a alert flag so the second company can do manual
authorization/activation...
That way the data woul
Steve Kennedy wrote:
Would be illegal in the UK (Data Protection Act) if you identify
indivuals from it I believe.
Some countries may consider illegal to (freely) publish individual data
if you are trying to collect money from him (or the company). You also
need to think that the data is fake
On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 10:23:47AM +0200, Danny Froberg wrote:
> Listing known fraudsters is not a crime here in Sweden, could host a
> database if u guys want...
> Could make it accessible as an rdf feed or something so you could hook a
> cgi/agi to it...
> Worth considering?
Would be illegal in
Listing known fraudsters is not a crime here in Sweden, could host a
database if u guys want...
Could make it accessible as an rdf feed or something so you could hook a
cgi/agi to it...
Worth considering?
/Danny
On Sun, 2005-06-19 at 00:44 -0700, snacktime wrote:
> On 6/25/05, Switch Tech Staff
On 6/25/05, Switch Tech Staff Account <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We are dealing with a large fraud at this time. Our approach has been on
> several fronts. As far as the net is concerned we are going to start listing
> names,
> address & phone numbers - even bank accounts as we locate them.
Not
We are dealing with a large fraud at this time. Our approach has been on
several fronts. As far as the net is concerned we are going to start listing
names,
address & phone numbers - even bank accounts as we locate them.
The first example is listed below.
LiveVoip LLC
Here is one for you to al
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