[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB-3 and external DAC

2005-12-02 Thread dwc
>>What model are you suggesting? I'm not suggesting or recommending a specific model. There are in fact many contenders depending on one's taste. I own an example, but there are many more to be found. My point was that you don't have to spend a grand on a DAC to get a decent one. The DAC's I o

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB-3 and external DAC

2005-12-02 Thread Pat Farrell
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 16:03 -0800, dwc wrote: > You can get a very nice DAC for under $300. What model are you suggesting? And how do you compare it to the built in DAC in the SB3? -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: "Audiophile" review of SB3

2005-12-02 Thread tomsi42
Cleve Wrote: > > In what ways is this power supply superior to the OEM supply included > with Squeezebox 3? >From what I understand, this power supply is of a type called linear powersupply. The original one is a switching powersupply. These are two different techniques to convert the 110V AC (

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB-3 and external DAC

2005-12-02 Thread dwc
vdorta Wrote: > Comparing a high-end external DAC to the stock SB is unfair, IMHO. Full > mods by Bolder or Red Wine Audio cost around $500, or about half of > what a Benchmark costs, with more or less the same advantages but with > less circuitry, less cabling, and higher-end passive parts in th

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Pre-emphasis

2005-12-02 Thread Jim
pfarrell Wrote: > I'd guess that this correction belongs server side, mostly > because server side cycles are free. And because > mere mortals can program plugins on the server. I'd say the correction belongs FLAC-side, wether transcoding through the program or in the SB2/SB3 firmware. This is o

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Pre-emphasis

2005-12-02 Thread Jim
The thing is, if you rip with iTunes (not sure if it affects lossless) then iTunes applies the emphasis on the audio file itself. Some other rippers do this too. But that's OK, because we're dealing in the lossy domain. With EAC also having a bug where sometimes the pre-emphasis attribute isn'

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Pre-emphasis

2005-12-02 Thread Pat Farrell
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 14:47 -0800, Jim wrote: > Anyhow, I was thinking pretty much along the same lines as you but then > I found this: > http://www.digital-inn.de/105765-post13.html Interesting. Of course, pre-emphasis was specified for a reason, and it was supposed to make the music more realist

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Pre-emphasis

2005-12-02 Thread Jim
I knew if anyone understood the (potential) issue it'd be you Pat, so thanks for not pointing me to a obsessive website. Anyhow, I was thinking pretty much along the same lines as you but then I found this: http://www.digital-inn.de/105765-post13.html And I did look at the FLAC spec before post

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Pre-emphasis

2005-12-02 Thread Pat Farrell
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 14:16 -0800, Jim wrote: > But to get back on topic, this is actually an audio issue, It might be a potential audio issue. > it affects the audio, it questions the true losslessness of the Squeezebox and > raises a question about FLAC. It is only an issue of Flac if the fla

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Quick question: CD's per hard drive

2005-12-02 Thread ceejay
Cleve Wrote: > > Question(s) about FLAC - I haven't been able to find any suggestions > on what settings to use with it. The FLAC website doesn't seem to > explain much about the GUI or the various settings, surprisingly. For > example, what level of encoding do I want to use (it defaults to

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Pre-emphasis

2005-12-02 Thread Jim
JJZolx Wrote: > And for that, let us give thanks. > > http://www.ocfoundation.org/ocf1010a.htm haha. I humbly salute your thank you. Yes, I suffer from Obsessive Compulsive Lossless Disorder. But to get back on topic, this is actually an audio issue, it affects the audio, it questions the tr

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Pre-emphasis

2005-12-02 Thread JJZolx
> A board search reveals this hasn't been discussed before. And for that, let us give thanks. http://www.ocfoundation.org/ocf1010a.htm -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 Vi

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Pre-emphasis

2005-12-02 Thread Jim
Pre-emphasis. A now seemingly obsolete Red-book CD spec flag, not used these days but appearing on old pressings of some CD's and some new classical ones apparently. http://www.digital-inn.de/exact-audio-copy/19034-pre-emphasis-use-eac.html http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB-3 and external DAC

2005-12-02 Thread vdorta
PhilNYC Wrote: > A good high end DAC is going to have a few advantages over the SB3. > First and foremost, there is an opportunity to design a more > sophisticated analog output; even from just a materials quality > perspective, this is possible. Beyond that, power supply quality, > physical is

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Receiver / Speaker Recommendations?

2005-12-02 Thread dwc
If you just want a pure power amp, the Behringer a500 is well under $200, leaving you 300 for speakers... http://www.behringer.com/A500/index.cfm?lang=ENG -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?use

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: "Audiophile" review of SB3

2005-12-02 Thread Cleve
tomsi42 Wrote: > That quote was an error on my behalf! The external powersupplies are > often discussed in this forum, and I though $7 was mentioned. Looking > again, I now see that the coorect price is $17.72 for an Elpac > WM050-1950-760. > > Sorry about that. > > Tom Here's a direct link to

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: "Audiophile" review of SB3

2005-12-02 Thread tomsi42
mbonsack Wrote: > I looked at the Elpac supplies (specifically the WM080-1950-760) at > Allied Electronic's and it's almost $30. Where can you get a decent > supply for $7 to $10? That quote was an error on my behalf! The external powersupplies are often discussed in this forum, and I though $7

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Accuracy of EAC

2005-12-02 Thread Pat Farrell
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 11:05 -0800, Jim wrote: > pfarrell Wrote: > > Why did you post on the SlimDevices audiophile list/forum? > > > It was a EAC question, should it have been posted on EAC's forum? There is a slim-oriented ripping forum/list Most of the slim devices forums/lists have a lot t

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Accuracy of EAC

2005-12-02 Thread Jim
pfarrell Wrote: > Jesus, lighten up. > Why did you post on the SlimDevices audiophile list/forum? > It was a EAC question, should it have been posted on EAC's forum? The original poster was finding issues that we've all had in not having CD's that the EAC author had. Maybe if he posted the t

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Quick question: CD's per hard drive

2005-12-02 Thread Cleve
Thanks for the suggestions - I'm busily copying CDs to *.wav files via EAC. I used the settings for EAC recommended at the Hydrogenaudio website. Question(s) about FLAC - I haven't been able to find any suggestions on what settings to use with it. The FLAC website doesn't seem to explain muc

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Accuracy of EAC

2005-12-02 Thread Pat Farrell
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 10:38 -0800, Jim wrote: > Did I mention Slim, Slimserver, Squeezebox or even SlimMP3 in my post? > This idea had nothing to do with either. Jesus, lighten up. Why did you post on the SlimDevices audiophile list/forum? -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com __

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Accuracy of EAC

2005-12-02 Thread Jim
pfarrell Wrote: > > The idea of having an AccurateRip process so that many users > can compare each others work is great. And adding > a track-level checksum to the SlimServer db is just a SMOP. > Did I mention Slim, Slimserver, Squeezebox or even SlimMP3 in my post? No. This idea had nothing

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Accuracy of EAC

2005-12-02 Thread Pat Farrell
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 10:10 -0800, Jim wrote: > In 99.% of cases you won't lose anything, Probably more, but this is the audiophiles list. > I've thought sometimes to go through a few of the popular CD's and > produce a list of fingerprints of the tracks (FLACs) so another user > could do th

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: "Audiophile" review of SB3

2005-12-02 Thread mbonsack
tomsi42 Wrote: > I am not sure if it will help. It probably depends on your kit. But if > it costs $7 or $10, it is worth a try. > > Personally I like to compare cables once in a while, but in a sensible > pricerange. But that's me. I looked at the Elpac supplies (specifically the WM080-1950-7

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Receiver / Speaker Recommendations?

2005-12-02 Thread Duman
For 2-channel listening, I have my sights set on: a parasound Zamp v3 http://tinyurl.com/7kwce) and Energy C-3 speakers http://tinyurl.com/cy43a They're a "little" over your budget as priced, but have near-universal rave reviews. The Energy's in particular are a steal at $300. The Zamp has a

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best mod?

2005-12-02 Thread sleepysurf
Nope, the WM080 has entirely different specs. See spec comparison here... http://www.elpac.com/uploads/documents/datasheets/WM%20REV%20A.pdf -- sleepysurf squeezebox2 (with elpac wm075-1950-760 linear psu) direct to amp using slimserver preamp vol control, 300gb buffalo linkstation (remote fl

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Accuracy of EAC

2005-12-02 Thread Jim
In 99.% of cases you won't lose anything, so in theory it will still be lossless. But then it's jumbled up lossless which on studio albums won't matter so much as most tracks start/end with silence. But on a live album you'll have a nanosecond of the applause at the start of the next track

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Accuracy of EAC

2005-12-02 Thread Skip Pack
My understanding, based on a very flimsy understanding is that the offsets do not affect the sound quality. At least that's why I have not bothered to get the correct offsets for my drive, which works fine otherwise. I think the lack of offsets causes a few problems, that I pretty much don't care

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best mod?

2005-12-02 Thread mbonsack
sleepysurf Wrote: > FYI, the off-the-shelf Elpac linear PSU that most folks were originally > recommending was the Elpac WM075-1950-760 (not the WM050-) > > I bought mine from electronicsurplus.com > > However, I believe the WM075- model is/was in limited supply, so > perhaps folks tried the lo

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB-3 and external DAC

2005-12-02 Thread PhilNYC
seanadams Wrote: > Modded or not, why do you believe this [high end external DAC to be > better than SB3 analog out] is so? A good high end DAC is going to have a few advantages over the SB3. First and foremost, there is an opportunity to design a more sophisticated analog output; even from jus

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB-3 and external DAC

2005-12-02 Thread ron thigpen
Hiroyuki Hamada wrote: I got a great tip from a Toslink user, Victor Lee, at another audio forum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). He soldered in a 0.1 uF ceramic cap between the 5V pin and the ground pin of the Toslink module of his SB1 and got much better sound. He found that there was no local filt

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB-3 and external DAC

2005-12-02 Thread Hiroyuki Hamada
I got a great tip from a Toslink user, Victor Lee, at another audio forum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). He soldered in a 0.1 uF ceramic cap between the 5V pin and the ground pin of the Toslink module of his SB1 and got much better sound. He found that there was no local filtering for the toslink t