[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Which DAC to Use?

2006-01-12 Thread atao
i was hoping to get help explaining what i'm hearing. i have a denon 3802 with b&w 610 speakers and a definitive sub. i'm doing a/b comparisons between using the denon internal dac vs the sb3's dac. what i'm hearing is that when using the denon dac, the sound stage is more forward, and possibly

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Modifying the Squeezebox 3

2006-01-12 Thread Skunk
davehg Wrote: > > Why should Sean and his team spend their time determining what the > problem is when it could be tied to a defective part on a mod? No reason, I agree. I was just stating a fact, as I see the JD100 as being more similar to a Squeezebox than a Saleen. Fixed link to your arti

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Modifying the Squeezebox 3

2006-01-12 Thread davehg
Until or unless they decide to certify these mods, or release their own high end audiophile versions (unlikely), the risk is on us. Why should Sean and his team spend their time determining what the problem is when it could be tied to a defective part on a mod? That is why companies like Dinan (B

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread Mark Lanctot
--- Skunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mark Lanctot Wrote: > > OK, well I can accept if I'm wrong or if that > guide is wrong, but... > > Now I'm not sure either is wrong. I will try my best > to track down the > site where I read what I posted. > > Looking at the posts you linked to, leav

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Problems with outboard DAC

2006-01-12 Thread seanadams
Which model do you have? SB3: No known issues with the s/pdif - by now the implementation has been extensively proven and I would be very surprised if there are any bugs. SB2: very early units may have an impedance match problem on the coax output, but this was fixed around April. SB1: there ar

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread nelamvr6
Well for what's it's worth I have the box unchecked and accuraterip has been reporting that all tracks so far have been accurately ripped. -- nelamvr6 nelamvr6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=311

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread Skunk
nelamvr6 Wrote: > Well for what's it's worth I have the box unchecked and accuraterip has > been reporting that all tracks so far have been accurately ripped. Yes, that should be the moral of the story. Although sometimes when I cancel the extraction AR says 'all tracks accurately ripped'. When

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread Pat Farrell
Skunk wrote: rick's cafe Wrote: Could someone give me a brief idiots guide to FLAC Ripping Easier said than done apparently I find CDex and FlacFrontEnd a lot easier to explain and setup than EAC. I think CDex will do direct flac compression just as EAC does. EAC is at best user hostile. F

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread Skunk
fuzzyT Wrote: > > Skunk, i think you may (or i) must be misunderstanding the meaning of > that checkbox. > > You seems to be describing it as: > > "This deluxxe drive caches data, please use the data from the cache in > > order to get faster rips." > > While I've always understood it to mea

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread Skunk
Mark Lanctot Wrote: > > If this were the case and the guide were wrong, wouldn't EAC's error > correction algorithm never trip? > Well EAC has permission to slow your drive down to .5x, in which case the drive would disable it's own cache, afaik. -- Skunk ---

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread Skunk
Well, no need to go to Hydrogen Audio again. The answer was in EAC as a tooltip, and I was wrong. If you mouse over the checkbox for cache in drive options EAC says: "If your device caches audio data that was just read, it would be a problem for EAC to read this data again to compare both extrac

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread Skunk
Mark Lanctot Wrote: > OK, well I can accept if I'm wrong or if that guide is wrong, but... Now I'm not sure either is wrong. I will try my best to track down the site where I read what I posted. Looking at the posts you linked to, leaving it checked is what disables it. Which seems contradicto

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread Mark Lanctot
Turns out this issue comes up pretty regularly at Hydrogenaudio: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=39967 http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=27809 In that last thread, this poster uses a much more accurate term, -cache override-: http://tinyurl.com/bf9

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-01-12 Thread Sir G
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread Mark Lanctot
Skunk Wrote: > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19263 OK, well I can accept if I'm wrong or if that guide is wrong, but... If this were the case and the guide were wrong, wouldn't EAC's error correction algorithm never trip? Because it does trip with me, at least once per CD. Us

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread Mark Lanctot
Hey, c'mon here. What I meant to say was that Hydrogenaudio is so big I always have a problem finding things there. I'm sure there is something there, I've just never been able to find it. A search might not turn up anything either. It would either turn up too many results or not enough.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread Skunk
Mark Lanctot Wrote: > > I'm open to learning but if you're just going to > say I'm wrong without pointing me in the right > direction, that doesn't help anybody out, does it? > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19263 -- Skunk -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread ron thigpen
Skunk wrote: fuzzyT Wrote: IIRC, EAC has the capability to test whether the drive has the caching feature. Yes, it does. And if your drive caches it automatically checks the box, sort of guessing that you want it to rip 'faster' rather than 'better'. Skunk, i think you may (or i) must be mis

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread Mark Lanctot
Actually, the "drive caches data" actually protects the secure ripping process. From http://users.pandora.be/satcp/eac03.htm#- "Drive caches audio data: EAC reads every audio sector twice and compares them. If the two sectors are different EAC knows that a read error occurred and will reread

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-01-12 Thread Jetlag
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread Mark Lanctot
See, that's the kind of practical info I need. Thank you, Skunk! :-) Skunk wrote: > fuzzyT Wrote: > >>IIRC, EAC has the capability to test whether the drive has the caching >>feature. > > > Yes, it does. And if your drive caches it automatically checks the box, > sort of guessing that you w

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread Skunk
Mark Lanctot Wrote: > > I've never looked into it. I'm sure > Hydrogenaudio would have the answer. > > Is that passive agressiveness? You sure looked into tagging. Which, AFAIK doesn't require re-ripping to change. I hope you're not suggesting that 'I' go look. I am pretty sure I won't

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-01-12 Thread Robin Bowes
nicky6 said the following on 12/01/2006 08:38: > A "tapestry" (don't know the english word for a cloth haning on the > wall) on the side wall That would be a "wall hanging". R. -- http://robinbowes.com If a man speaks in a forest, and his wife's not there, is he still wrong? __

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread Skunk
fuzzyT Wrote: > IIRC, EAC has the capability to test whether the drive has the caching > feature. Yes, it does. And if your drive caches it automatically checks the box, sort of guessing that you want it to rip 'faster' rather than 'better'. If your drive is caching data, EAC doesn't read your

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread ron thigpen
IIRC, EAC has the capability to test whether the drive has the caching feature. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread Mark Lanctot
Yes, that guide is a little dated, and the detailed guide is very dated. There could be some reason drive caching isn't used. I've never looked into it. I'm sure Hydrogenaudio would have the answer. m1abrams wrote: > Skunk Wrote: > >>My only quibble w/ that guide is that I believe you SHOU

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread m1abrams
Skunk Wrote: > My only quibble w/ that guide is that I believe you SHOULD check 'drive > caches data' in 'drive options'. Only then can EAC defeat that feature. > PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong! > > Yeah I thought Accurate Rip took control of my offset testing.. If > your accurate rips are com

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread Skunk
Mark Lanctot Wrote: > > http://users.pandora.be/satcp/eac-qs-en.htm > My only quibble w/ that guide is that I believe you SHOULD check 'drive caches data' in 'drive options'. Only then can EAC defeat that feature. PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong! Yeah I thought Accurate Rip took control of my

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Problems with outboard DAC

2006-01-12 Thread Heuer
My SB3 runs into an Audio Synthesis DAX Discrete and the results are very good indeed. Locks on to 44.1khz, upsamples and is off. Never had any problem. -- Heuer Heuer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?us

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread tomsi42
fuzzyT Wrote: > A decent, rough rule of thumb for me has been to estimate about 1GB of > HDD space needed to store 3 CDs worth of FLAC encoded files. > I agree; it a good starting point. My collection of 1448 CD's takes up 479GB (=> 339MB per CD => ~1GB for 3 CD's). I have many older CD's (~35

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread Mark Lanctot
Some of this is covered here: http://users.pandora.be/satcp/eac-qs-en.htm I can't remember where I found out about how to configure AccurateRip with EAC (it's not in that guide), but as I recall it wasn't that complicated. AccurateRip even determined the offsets for me, I believe using resul

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread bludragon
Also, you should use accurate rip. Once you have set up eac, install accurate rip, and copy the .dll into the eac directory. Start eac, and insert some original cd's until it finds one it recognises, rip it, and you should be good to go. If you want to go the whole hog you can also calculate an

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread ron thigpen
A decent, rough rule of thumb for me has been to estimate about 1GB of HDD space needed to store 3 CDs worth of FLAC encoded files. Double this figure if you want to keep a backup of your library on HDD. Background numbers: CDs are averaging about 500 to 550MB. FLAC encoding results in an aver

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Problems with outboard DAC

2006-01-12 Thread julian2002
as far as i know this was ONLY an issue with the original squeezebox 1 and pcm. the chip used to process pcm (as opposed to mp3) was an off the shelf unit which had abysmal specs for timing - it wasn;t capable of keeping a true 44.1khz clock rate but wobbled around it - various software fixes were

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread Mark Lanctot
You're welcome! One thing which the EAC Quickstart guide lightly brushes on is the command-line FLAC and EAC encoders. These may seem a bit obscure, but with command-line switches you can do some incredibly powerful things and have a dramatic effect on the sound in just one step! The quickst

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Problems with outboard DAC

2006-01-12 Thread freelunch
Has this issue been further investigated or resolved? Ironically, when I bought my sb3's, it was with the intention of acquiring a Bel Canto (or similar DAC) to use with it. -- freelunch freelunch's Profile: http://forums

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Speaker recommendations aprox. $1, 000

2006-01-12 Thread Skunk
jtfields Wrote: > > Sorry, I'm not trying to completely hijack this thread. > I think us single driver people already hijacked it ;) I have never heard those speakers, but Swans does have a name in the mid-fi community. I know Swans makes 3k$+ speakers too, and with the two higher end m

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread rick's cafe
Mark .. once again .. many thanks for the explaination which I found very helpful... -- rick's cafe WHEN MUSIC HIT YOU YOU FEEL NO PAIN!!! rick's cafe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3021 Vi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread Pat Farrell
rick's cafe wrote: Could someone give me a brief idiots guide to FLAC Ripping vs WAV vs MP3. I'm not sure if you are asking about the file formats or ripping software. Since, this is the audiophiles list, part of the answer can be short and easy. MP3 and other lossy formats throw away parts

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread Mark Lanctot
Download EAC from here: http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/ Configure it using this: http://users.pandora.be/satcp/eac-qs-en.htm To burn to WAV, use the EAC "WAV" button. To burn to FLAC, use the EAC "MP3" button but with the "FLAC (compression)" profile loaded. To burn to MP3, use the EAC "MP3"

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-01-12 Thread Sir G
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Idiots guide to FLAC vs WAV vs MP3

2006-01-12 Thread rick's cafe
Could someone give me a brief idiots guide to FLAC Ripping vs WAV vs MP3. I will be playing all my music on SB3 thru a Cambridge Audio 540R ... any advice or recommendations welcomed. Also on avg what is the file size for a CD ripped as FLAC vs the rest and what rippers do you recommend I use.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-01-12 Thread nicky6
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-01-12 Thread slimpy
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-01-12 Thread nicky6
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