[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Hard Drive For Music Quality?

2006-06-10 Thread SuperQ
snarlydwarf Wrote: > Guess I should explain jitter for grins and cause I'm bored :P > A hard drive doesn't (assuming it works) have that problem: it has > external timing. In addition to the 8-64 bits that it transfers at > once (ld MFM drives like the ST506 transferred 8 bits at a time but

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Minor Rant: I wish more CD players had digital inputs

2006-06-10 Thread JJZolx
Why do I need a CD player? Last week a buddy gave me four CDs from two recent gigs he and his band played. I came home and popped one in the CD player and was listening 30 seconds after walking through the door. It would have taken me a minimum of 10-15 minutes per CD to rip them, then do BMF t

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Minor Rant: I wish more CD players had digital inputs

2006-06-10 Thread notanatheist
Digital in? Out? Want to buy my Sony CDP-CA9ES? It's served me faithfully. I haven't used it in a couple months now. Why shuffle CDs when all my music is stored safely on a RAID array out in the garage. Besides, it isn't like ripping (and encoding) actually takes that long. It takes more time to t

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Minor Rant: I wish more CD players had digital inputs

2006-06-10 Thread JJZolx
I'm in the market for a new CDP. Much as I love the Squeezebox and its convenience, the software is quite a way from being complete enough to allow the SB with SlimServer to totally replace my CD player. Having to first rip a CD, then add the audio files to the SlimServer library, and then havin

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Help...not enjoying my SB3

2006-06-10 Thread JJZolx
Lyonesse Wrote: > I Use EAC to rip my CD's into wav files, (I use the action / test and > copy selected tracks option in EAC). I then run through each track > correcting glitches) Im sure theres an automated way to do this. I've ripped many hundreds of CDs and have never had to fix a single glitc

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Help...not enjoying my SB3

2006-06-10 Thread radish
Wombat Wrote: > Foobar does not change lossless files at all No, but but the windows sound subsystem can. It's possible to get bit-perfect output with the right combination of soundcard, drivers and options but it's by no means a given with an average consumer setup. > If your soundcard resample

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Help...not enjoying my SB3

2006-06-10 Thread Wombat
Foobar does not change lossless files at all until you have a dsp running so does the Sqeezebox. What may be different is the digital out of your soundcard feeding your DAC. If your soundcard resamples everything to 48kHz that may justify some changes in sound, for sure not to the better! How do

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: High freq noise from analog out?

2006-06-10 Thread richidoo
Sean I agree with your point about S/N, and for that, SB volume must be maxed. I had read so many comments about using the SB direct to amp before I bought it that it had become a belief, one that is now refuted. I got spiced because I thought you were referring to the danger of putting unattenu

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Help...not enjoying my SB3

2006-06-10 Thread radish
Lyonesse Wrote: > I then run through each track correcting glitches) Glitches? What exactly do you mean here? There shouldn't be glitches and if there are you can't fix them. > > I may be mistaken (not very technically minded)but foobar does not use > codecs but rather sends the pure signal to

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Hard Drive For Music Quality?

2006-06-10 Thread radish
I actually do have a loyalty, to Seagate. I've been buying drives for a long time, and have long ago given up on WD. Maxtor aren't bad but they're very noisy, the Samsung's are pretty good though. But Seagate are quiet, large, often discounted and have a 5 year warranty (none of the others do for

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Eac -> Flac

2006-06-10 Thread nelamvr6
Ali-M Wrote: > Roger that. > > Next question: How do you avoid the copy protection on audio cd's? I've > got a bunch of cd's with this useless 'technology'... The easiest thing to do is to simply defeat auto play on your CD drives. That will defeat the majority of the copy protection schemes o

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Eac -> Flac

2006-06-10 Thread tomsi42
ezkcdude Wrote: > Now, you guys are getting into ripping versus encoding. That's right. I brought it up as you need a correct rip before encoding... ezkcdude Wrote: > FLAC is lossless. You can't change the quality of a FLAC-encoded file. > You can *slightly* change the size of a FLAC file, bu

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Eac -> Flac

2006-06-10 Thread Ali-M
ezkcdude Wrote: > Now, you guys are getting into ripping versus encoding. Ripping to WAV > is something you have to do before do FLAC encoding. Errors can occur > during the ripping process, but that is a different issue. Assuming the > WAV file is a bit-for-bit copy, there is no way to produce "

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Hard Drive For Music Quality?

2006-06-10 Thread funkstar
There is no one outstanding hard drive manufacturers at the moment, like wise there are none that you should go out of your way to avoid. This isn't always the case and some manufacturers do go though bad patches - IBM had a very bad period with a range of their DeskStar drives that were known as

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Hard Drive For Music Quality?

2006-06-10 Thread ezkcdude
I use Seagate. Definitely do not go with Western Digital, if you value your music collection. -- ezkcdude SB3->Derek Shek TDA1543/CS8412 NOS DAC->MIT Terminator 2 interconnects->Endler Audio 24-step Attenuators (RCA-direct)->Parasound Halo A23 125W/ch amplifier->Speltz anti-cables->DIY 2-ways

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Hard Drive For Music Quality?

2006-06-10 Thread snarlydwarf
Guess I should explain jitter for grins and cause I'm bored :P A DAC receives a serial stream of data. Just one's and zeros: 1001100111001 The catch is that there is no clock in that data. There isn't a seperate line saying "okay, here comes the next bit!" which would get rid of the jitter ar

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Hard Drive For Music Quality?

2006-06-10 Thread blah509
OK then...from a reliablity standpoint. What are the boards picks? -- blah509 blah509's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1405 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24616

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Hard Drive For Music Quality?

2006-06-10 Thread snarlydwarf
The only argument for coax vs toslink or which transport is better is Jitter. If your hard drive has jitter, you will have bit errors. If you have bit errors on a hard drive, it is broken: think of what a bit error would do if it was in your OS. Changing a single bit in "kernel32.sys" or whatev

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Help...not enjoying my SB3

2006-06-10 Thread azinck3
Lyonesse Wrote: > > I Use EAC to rip my CD's into wav files > I'm assuming you rip to 44.1khz, 16bit? (by the way, you might want to loook into FLAC as a way to save some space, make it easier to tag/organize your music, and not lose any quality) Lyonesse Wrote: > > Should I invest in a be

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Hard Drive For Music Quality?

2006-06-10 Thread blah509
snarlydwarf Wrote: > > > Look for 'reliable' (you don't want it to crash and eat your carefully > ripped, tagged and organized music) and even with brand names that can > be a crap-shoot: have backups of your music just in case your > electricity burps and spits on your data. I agree heavily!!

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Hard Drive For Music Quality?

2006-06-10 Thread blah509
then why spend thousands of dollars on different cd transports if the ones and zeros come out the same? The same argument can then be said for different digital interconnects such as Toslink and Coax can't it? They are just distributing ones and zeros, aren't they? Not being rude, just curious.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Eac -> Flac

2006-06-10 Thread ezkcdude
Now, you guys are getting into ripping versus encoding. Ripping to WAV is something you have to do before do FLAC encoding. Errors can occur during the ripping process, but that is a different issue. Assuming the WAV file is a bit-for-bit copy, there is no way to produce "lower" quality FLAC files

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Hard Drive For Music Quality?

2006-06-10 Thread snarlydwarf
The hard drive won't affect sound quality. If it returns bits different from the ones you put on it, it is broken. The only way that it would have any effect at all is if your PC was in your listening area and the drive was noisy. Look for 'reliable' (you don't want it to crash and eat your car

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best Hard Drive For Music Quality?

2006-06-10 Thread blah509
What do you think? g -- blah509 blah509's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1405 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24616 _

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Help...not enjoying my SB3

2006-06-10 Thread Lyonesse
Hi Thank you both for your posts! I Use EAC to rip my CD's into wav files, (I use the action / test and copy selected tracks option in EAC). I then run through each track correcting glitches) Im sure theres an automated way to do this :) No dsp running in the background but some surfing of the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Eac -> Flac

2006-06-10 Thread tomsi42
Skunk Wrote: > I selected 320, but I believe it's ignored for FLAC. That is correct. If you are obsessed about best possible quality, it is important that the drive offset is set correctly and you rip in safe mode. Many people use the AccurateRIP plugin as an extra precaution. Of course, if

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Help...not enjoying my SB3

2006-06-10 Thread azinck3
aj's right: It's going to come down to your source files. What format are you using? If not using a lossless codec, then that's almost certainly your problem. If lossless, then I fail to see how the squeezebox could cause the changes you describe. I assume you used the Bel Canto dac with your

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-10 Thread jampot
PKFox wrote Just got my Lite 60 DAC from Hong Kong ( GR-Research ), Have been very tempted by the Dac 60 - especially with the sonicap mods, and exchenged a couple of emails with GR-Research. If you don't mind saying, how much VAT / duty did you have to pay? Look forward to hearing how it sett

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Help...not enjoying my SB3

2006-06-10 Thread ajmitchell
Hi Jack, You've got a decent system there, but you are going to get a lot of questions about your source files as this could be a big factor. I have been running 256-320 kbs for a couple years, but recently ripped to Applelossless with great results. What I cannot understand from your post is y

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help...not enjoying my SB3

2006-06-10 Thread Lyonesse
Hi Ive had my SB3 for three days now and although there is a lot more detail to the sound than my previous CD player, I have so far been distinctly unimpressed. 1..Brightness..its way too bright (too much treble). After tuning Sibilence out of my system for the last year now its back with a veng

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Eac -> Flac

2006-06-10 Thread Skunk
I selected 320, but I believe it's ignored for FLAC. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24602 __

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Eac -> Flac

2006-06-10 Thread rocky2889
On the "External Compression Tab" there is a selection for Bit rate and the default is 192kBit/s. Should I select the highest possible or leave as it for Flac encoding. Thanks -- rocky2889 rocky2889's Profile: http://foru

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Eac -> Flac

2006-06-10 Thread ezkcdude
Just to emphasize the point, *lossless* means no data is lost upon decompression (not a single bit). In terms of quality, *there is no better compression than lossless*. By definition, FLAC is a lossless codec (encode-decode algorithm). The FLAC "quality" parameter is a misnomer. -- ezkcdude S

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Eac -> Flac

2006-06-10 Thread nelamvr6
Ali-M Wrote: > So a higher compression ratio isn't neccesarily equal to a better rip > quality? I'm currently using the "-8" setting. Higher compression ratio only means a smaller file. The higher compression takes a little longer on the compression end, and uses a little more CPU power. The dif

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Eac -> Flac

2006-06-10 Thread Ali-M
So a higher compression ratio isn't neccesarily equal to a better rip quality? I'm currently using the "-8" setting. -- Ali-M Ali-M's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5844 View this thread: http://f

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Eac -> Flac

2006-06-10 Thread Siduhe
"optimal" is a bit subjective - (optimal for speed / size / quality ?) In terms of tutorials, there is a good one on setting up EAC to rip to FLAC 'in the wiki' (http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?EACInstall). -- Siduhe --

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Eac -> Flac

2006-06-10 Thread ezkcdude
If you're talking about FLAC, there's really no way to screw it up. It will always be lossless, no matter what "quality" you choose. -- ezkcdude SB3->Derek Shek TDA1543/CS8412 NOS DAC->MIT Terminator 2 interconnects->Endler Audio 24-step Attenuators (RCA-direct)->Parasound Halo A23 125W/ch amp

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Looking to buy an intergrated amp and I need help

2006-06-10 Thread agentsmith
blah509 Wrote: > It wasn't as if the Cyrus couldn't stand its ground, it was that the > Cyrus (at least to my ears) was more tame (read soft). The sound of > the Naim came across as being alot more musical. There was definately > more bass from the Cyrus. > g Cool let us know how you did. You

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Eac -> Flac

2006-06-10 Thread Ali-M
Yes, this has been discussed all the way to planet Aurealious. However, there are numerous compression setups around the net. My question is: Which setup is the most optimal to use when aiming on superior rip quality?? Links to tutorials are VERY welcomed. Thanks in advance! -- Ali-M --

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Looking to buy an intergrated amp and I need help

2006-06-10 Thread blah509
It wasn't as if the Cyrus couldn't stand its ground, it was that the Cyrus (at least to my ears) was more tame (read soft). The sound of the Naim came across as being alot more musical. There was definately more bass from the Cyrus. g -- blah509 --

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-10 Thread pkfox
Just got my Lite 60 DAC from Hong Kong ( GR-Research ), $480US including shipping to the UK, not bad in my book, never having used a DAC before ( apart from the obvious ) I thought the difference would be minimal at best ( to non_dac_aware_ears ! ), but !, I am very impressed indeed, pretty it ain