[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Anyone care to take a guess as to how much one may have to spend on a pre-amp to impr

2006-09-14 Thread Deaf Cat
Thanks for your comments Patrick and John, very usefull information :) I'll concentrate on raising the funds for the next source :D and leave the pre for a later date. Cheers! -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter questions

2006-09-14 Thread Phil Leigh
P Floding;136303 Wrote: > Ehh, actually no! > They are not totally separate things. The reason is that the > Transporter has internal jumpers to set output signal attenuation. The > recommendation is to set the jumpers so maximum volume won't damage > your speakers. > > However, if more attenuat

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Anyone care to take a guess as to how much one may have to spend on a pre-amp to impr

2006-09-14 Thread JohnSwenson
My current preamp is a DIY model that I would say is on par with commercial ones in the $4k to $10K range. Using the SB3 direct to the power amp,even with the digital volume control, sounds sinificantly better than using the preamp. Thats not to say the digital volume ontrol is perfect, I CAN hea

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter Driving 2m Interconnects OK?

2006-09-14 Thread atkinsonrr
My apologies too for what ended up to be cross-posting. Those with an interest here may also want to see the latter posts in the "Transporter Questions" thread. Thanks again for all the info; it has been very helpful in understanding how the Transporter will work in relation to cables and powe

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter questions

2006-09-14 Thread atkinsonrr
Sorry to all if I caused a tempest in a teapot here. Being not overly technically endowed I rely on forums like this to learn and understand, so I am grateful for all the input. I hope it was helpful for some others as well. I checked the specs on my power amps (Quicksilver V4's) and their in

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Help Required for Best Sound Setup and Future Purchase Path

2006-09-14 Thread Skunk
mickyb Wrote: > I just have a few questions about how to get the best sound out of it, > with the equipment I have > > I currently have the following equipment: > > Marantz SR5200 AV Receiver, the optical Digital inputs are currently > used... I have connected the Squeezebox to the "VCR2" analo

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Using Transporter with DVD-A, SACD, HD DVD, Blu-Ray, etc

2006-09-14 Thread arge
I feel the pain of fellow Audiophiles that still pursue the “digital perfection” under the continuous harassment of the mostly clueless audio industry. Company like Slimdevices get it (of course), other like SONY do not. And they shall die a slow death. But just in case SONY is reading let’s spell

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Using Transporter with DVD-A, SACD, HD DVD, Blu-Ray, etc

2006-09-14 Thread Pat Farrell
mkozlows wrote: jeffluckett;134726 Wrote: That's very true. But even if they were to devise a PERFECT digital protection scheme, there's always the analog hole which is nearly impossible to plug. Someone with a bit of know-how could very easily capture the analog signals (by tapping into the sp

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Effect of cleaning up power?

2006-09-14 Thread arge
I have a dedicated power outlet line from the main breaker feeding a very basic Furman power conditioner: http://www.furmansound.com/products/pro/pwr_cond_seq/cond/_merit/m8.php The dedicated line makes a noticeable difference. Before I could "hear" the lights going on/off. As far as ground loop

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Using Transporter with DVD-A, SACD, HD DVD, Blu-Ray, etc

2006-09-14 Thread mkozlows
jeffluckett;134726 Wrote: > That's very true. But even if they were to devise a PERFECT digital > protection scheme, there's always the analog hole which is nearly > impossible to plug. Someone with a bit of know-how could very easily > capture the analog signals (by tapping into the speaker-out

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter Driving 2m Interconnects OK?

2006-09-14 Thread DCtoDaylight
Sorry for cross-posting, but just to duplicate what I wrote elsewhere, Yes, the Transporters outputs are active, and should sound like any other active pre-amp. -- DCtoDaylight DCtoDaylight's Profile: http://forums.slimdev

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter questions

2006-09-14 Thread DCtoDaylight
Sorry, I think a short answer I wrote injected a bit of confusion... There was a question about the Transporter sounding like a passive pre-amp, a concern sometimes caused by the highish output impedance a passive can have. I had a brain fart, and mentioned the transporters digital domain volume

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 DAC vs Arcam Alpha 10 DAC

2006-09-14 Thread the_twin
Why not get yourself a cheapish digital cable and try it out? In the end what is best is what you prefer, not the opinion of some self appointed expert. -- the_twin the_twin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter questions

2006-09-14 Thread P Floding
Phil Leigh;136244 Wrote: > Oh for goodness sake... > Volume control in the digital domain is nothing to do with output > impedance/loading. They are totally separate things. > One is analogue the other is digital. > You'll be fine. Enjoy your transporter. Ehh, actually no! They are not totally s

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 DAC vs Arcam Alpha 10 DAC

2006-09-14 Thread Warren
I have a similar set up to you Arcam Alpha 10 integrated amp plus Arcam P25 power amp which are bi-amped and drive Monitor Audio Studio 20se speakers. I do not have the DAVE module fitted but I guess you must do if the amp comtains a dac. I am not sure which dac the DAVE module had, but when comp

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 DAC vs Arcam Alpha 10 DAC

2006-09-14 Thread benh
My SB3 is currently running into an Arcam Alpha 10 integrated amp then into an Alpha 10 power amp and from there to a set of Madisound Cygnet speakers. Right now, I'm using the analog outs on the SB3 into the Arcam, assuming that since the SB3 is so much newer than my Alpha, that the DAC in the S

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter questions

2006-09-14 Thread Phil Leigh
atkinsonrr;136237 Wrote: > In response to a related post of mine re: length of interconnect cables, > DCtoDaylight said this: > > "It's been reported elsewhere, that the Transporter controls the volume > in the digital domain, or before the DAC. As a result it cannot suffer > from the high outp

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Effect of cleaning up power?

2006-09-14 Thread Phil Leigh
Pat Farrell;135299 Wrote: > PhilNYC wrote: > > FYI - this is against electrical code (each house is supposed to > only > > have a single ground). You may want to check with your homeowners' > > insurance to see if this voids your policy. > > Glad to see someone else mention this. > > I don't u

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter questions

2006-09-14 Thread atkinsonrr
In response to a related post of mine re: length of interconnect cables, DCtoDaylight said this: "It's been reported elsewhere, that the Transporter controls the volume in the digital domain, or before the DAC. As a result it cannot suffer from the high output impedance issues that passive pre's

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter questions

2006-09-14 Thread atkinsonrr
PhilNYC;136184 Wrote: > This does seem kind of high...I've seen cdps with balanced output > impedances at around 200ohms. Hopefully Sean or someone else from SD > will chime in here... Yes, I agree. Can someone from SD contribute here? Seems you could easily put this concern to rest. I bel

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Using Transporter with DVD-A, SACD, HD DVD, Blu-Ray, etc

2006-09-14 Thread regalma1
I got really excited about SACD and even DVD-A until I bought an MP3 player on impulse. I now have 3 players and have stopped buying DVD-As and non-hybrid SACD's. The reason is obvious. I am not going to buy two copies of the same music. And I am going to put any music I like on my MP3 players.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Effect of cleaning up power?

2006-09-14 Thread regalma1
I once was a tech in lab that unknown to me had voltage difference between the grounds of two circuits. One guy plugged a tape recorder into one outlet and the source into another. It blew the inputs to the recorder. I found a voltage between the grounds on the two outlets. Tying them together sol

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Where to buy power supply upgrade in UK

2006-09-14 Thread gsuser
davidcotton;136167 Wrote: > Is that one in a case already and we just have to add the powercord? Or > do we have to get a case from somewhere like maplins for it? No, you will have to find a nice box, to fit a powercord, and a plug that will go to the Squeezebox. -- gsuser SB3, Wadia 25, Eta

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter questions

2006-09-14 Thread PhilNYC
cliveb;136101 Wrote: > One thing that did surprise me about the Transporter is that the > impedence of its balanced output is quoted as 1kOhm. Does that strike > you as unusually high? In my experience balanced outputs are usually > 100 ohms or less. Can you think of any reason for this? Slim Dev

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Effect of cleaning up power?

2006-09-14 Thread PhilNYC
joncourage;136100 Wrote: > So, I just picked up a Monster HTS5100 mkii in a good deal. > > Would having such a power conditioner between the house power and the > devices be considered equivalent to having a dedicated circuit or > high-grade outlet? Nope...this is simply putting a power conditi

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter Driving 2m Interconnects OK?

2006-09-14 Thread TiredLegs
Even unbalanced outputs should be able to handle 2 meter interconnects without a problem, unless you've got some really serious electromagnetic interference going on in your room. -- TiredLegs TiredLegs's Profile: http://f

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Where to buy power supply upgrade in UK

2006-09-14 Thread davidcotton
Is that one in a case already and we just have to add the powercord? Or do we have to get a case from somewhere like maplins for it? -- davidcotton davidcotton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=458

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Where to buy power supply upgrade in UK

2006-09-14 Thread Phil Leigh
gsuser;136103 Wrote: > Why not Farnell's ref 183787 in stock now (5v, 3A), £41.74 ? > Should be better than 1500mA. That one should be fine! -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?us

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: word clock output

2006-09-14 Thread TOKION
Sean, Would it be possible for you to list up some availlable (reasonably priced) devices with clock outputs that you have tried, and that are compatible with the word clock input of the TRANSPORT? By the way, I assume the cable conection is done via BNC, or is it another standard? I would rath

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: High Bit Rate MP3 vs Lossless Compression

2006-09-14 Thread earthbased
Andrew B.;135943 Wrote: > If you want to hear the difference between MP3s and lossless, just > listen carefully to the cymbals. For some reason, they are really hard > to get right with lossy compression. > > Andrew And punchy bass. -- earthbased -

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Where to buy power supply upgrade in UK

2006-09-14 Thread gsuser
Why not Farnell's ref 183787 in stock now (5v, 3A), £41.74 ? Should be better than 1500mA. -- gsuser SB3, Wadia 25, Etalon SL671 & 810, Apertura Atlante. gsuser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter questions

2006-09-14 Thread cliveb
Patrick Dixon;136085 Wrote: > ... but the transporter/SB3 is not the same as a passive pre. It has an > active, low impedance output stage. One thing that did surprise me about the Transporter is that the impedence of its balanced output is quoted as 1kOhm. Does that strike you as unusually high

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Effect of cleaning up power?

2006-09-14 Thread joncourage
So, I just picked up a Monster HTS5100 mkii in a good deal. Would having such a power conditioner between the house power and the devices be considered equivalent to having a dedicated circuit or high-grade outlet? -- joncourage -

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Where to buy power supply upgrade in UK

2006-09-14 Thread wavestar
After ordering a month ago CPC/Farnell have just told me they * NO LONGER SELL the 5V/1.5A * I'm back to square one. As Phil says - I ordered my PSU as I was suffering severe interference with my Naim Tuner. I'll have a look at the DIY instructions - but its probably beyond me... -- wavestar

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter questions

2006-09-14 Thread Patrick Dixon
Surely there are a couple of things at play here - the input impedance of the power amp and it's overall gain. A 3V pp input would produce an 84V pp output at the speakers with a power amplifier with a fairly typical gain of +29dBs. But if the input impedance of the power amp is too low (or the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter questions

2006-09-14 Thread PhilNYC
atkinsonrr;135995 Wrote: > Oh oh NOW I'm really worried, as I have a Transporter on order. One big > selling point for me was the ability to get rid of a seperate preamp! > > I am confused by Phil's comment, cause I thought I read elsewhere that > the Transporter puts out 4.7 volts peak to pe

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter Driving 2m Interconnects OK?

2006-09-14 Thread cliveb
atkinsonrr;135990 Wrote: > You are the only one to answer, so I really appreciate it. I was > getting worried, as one main reason I ordered Transporter was to > replace a preamp in the chain. I got spooked reading a thread in this > forum from a day or two ago that talked about the problems wit

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 24/96 on Transporter

2006-09-14 Thread Patrick Dixon
The most recent SB2/3 Firmware supports 24/96 - I did ask how the downsampling was done, but I think SD are busy trying to get the Transporter out of the door, so no response yet. -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patri

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter Driving 2m Interconnects OK?

2006-09-14 Thread Deaf Cat
Do we know if the Transporter will easily be able to drive 4 monos? (just thinking ahead) -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dist-ed FLACs. Whatta do?

2006-09-14 Thread vsu
jonheal;135791 Wrote: > Maybe the output level from the Squeezebox is so high, you're > overloading your preamp. Does the distortion go away when you turn down > the volume on the Squeezebox? Maybe it is as simple as that! Can't wait to go home and test it. BTW, right now I am running my SB wit