Well said.
Wombat;138695 Wrote:
> I know at least one of the ones building very first class speakers that
> realized this coming about 10 years ago.
> One day all music will be played out of RAM and therefore the pure
> source will be the same for all he predicted (or alike)
> He had no doubt ab
Jon,
No. I'm talking about jitter at the s/pdif output -- not at the DAC.
Point being, you feed THAT signal into a really good DAC, one that
largely eliminates jitter, and you're in business.
The Transporter is just that, in one box.
joncourage;138706 Wrote:
> So the SB3's jitter measurem
PhilNYC;138701 Wrote:
> Yes, but it isn't really all that helpful when trying to compare the
> performance of different transports, is it? Presumably, a transport
> outputting a signal with less jitter is better than one outputting a
> signal with more jitter...assuming all other things (eg. cab
highdudgeon;138685 Wrote:
> Published jitter at the s/pdif out for the SB3 is 50ps. Not bad...
So the SB3's jitter measurement is significantly less than all of the
high-end transports?
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reeve_mike;138689 Wrote:
> Word-clock jitter shows up as symmetrical side bands in the analog noise
> floor post DAC,
> JA makes his measurements this way.
Thanks...
> However, a system's jitter will depend on what happens to it after that
> (e.g. on the quality of the connector, cable, receive
I know at least one of the ones building very first class speakers that
realized this coming about 10 years ago.
One day all music will be played out of RAM and therefore the pure
source will be the same for all he predicted (or alike)
He had no doubt about getting bits to the soundchain will be s
PhilNYC;138679 Wrote:
> How are jitter measurements taken "post-DAC"? Isn't the signal analog
> after the DAC?
The effects of the jitter are measured.
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PhilNYC;138679 Wrote:
> How are jitter measurements taken "post-DAC"? Isn't the signal analog
> after the DAC?
Word-clock jitter shows up as symmetrical side bands in the analog
noise floor post DAC,
JA makes his measurements this way.
Take a look at any of the Stereophile reviews from which t
Published jitter at the s/pdif out for the SB3 is 50ps. Not bad...
PhilNYC;138679 Wrote:
> How are jitter measurements taken "post-DAC"? Isn't the signal analog
> after the DAC?
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SB3->Lavry DA10->Nuforce 9.02s->Harbeth Monitor 30s/Skylan stands.
Simple and satisfying. In a
reeve_mike;138678 Wrote:
> Unfortunately comparing JA's and Sean's jitter measurements is to
> compare apples & oranges :-O
>
> JA's are made post-DAC on the analog output, whereas Sean's are made on
> the clock in the SPDIF output.
>
> Mike
How are jitter measurements taken "post-DAC"? Isn'
Unfortunately comparing JA's and Sean's jitter measurements is to
compare apples & oranges :-O
JA's are made post-DAC on the analog output, whereas Sean's are made on
the clock in the SPDIF output.
Mike
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funkstar;138580 Wrote:
> I think you are partly right on this. It like the Digital SLR market
> today compared with a few years ago. I read in Amature Photographer
> that more dSLRs are now sold to people that have never used a film SLR
> than those converting from film to digital. This has mainl
SoftwireEngineer;138624 Wrote:
> Here is a post by Christine Tham, a audio reviwer on audioasylum.com.
> See how the SB3's 300ps jitter compares to certain high-end players.
>
Thanks for posting this...very informative! I remember speaking to one
highly respected DAC designer who told me he li
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listen to all my music in any way I want at any time in any place I
want? Once I realized I could do *everything* I ever wanted to do with
my own music, it was a no-brainer to start optimizing.
Unlike jon, though, I haven't gone
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Here is a post by Christine Tham, a audio reviwer on audioasylum.com.
See how the SB3's 300ps jitter compares to certain high-end players.
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This whole thread is a perfect example of how shallow we are - we
prefer to judge a transport's
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patrick;138572 Wrote:
> I'm pleased to report that we will be shipping our first Transporters
> today. The Slim Devices' production team will work over the weekend to
> get as many players out as possible this coming week.
>
> When your unit is ready to ship, you will recieve an email from UPS
patrick;138572 Wrote:
> I'm pleased to report that we will be shipping our first Transporters
> today. The Slim Devices' production team will work over the weekend to
> get as many players out as possible this coming week.
>
> When your unit is ready to ship, you will recieve an email from UPS
joncourage;138546 Wrote:
> Personally, I believe the opposite to be the case.
>
> Making high-quality audio accessible to more people is sucking more
> people into the hobby, resulting in increased spending for supplemental
> componentry. We all know how addictive this is. How many of us stopp
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get as many players out as possible this coming week.
When your unit is ready to ship, you will recieve an email from UPS
with your tracking number. Stay
joncourage wrote:
>
> Oh, cool. (Your post count says "n/a" and your username isn't
> clickable/hyperlink like the rest).
Yes, that will be because I don't use the forums - I post through gmane.
> Now back to our regularly scheduled program :-)
Bring it on ...
R.
Robin Bowes;138539 Wrote:
> joncourage wrote:
> > And what has happened to Robin Bowes? His user account looks weird.
>
> What looks weird? I post through gmane, if that's what you mean.
>
> > Would be a shame if he left for some reason after all his valuable
> > contribution to these forums!?!
This discussion's come up a few times in various contexts, and I thought
it might be worth mulling over some. All theoretical of course, since
there's no real way to obtain statistics, only to surmise.
Some folks say that devices like the SB (and other reasonably-priced,
high-value, consumer-acc
You have a good memory, I have trouble remembering what a squeeze box
is.
oh yeh, I got one so I would remember where my music collection is
;-)
highdudgeon;138532 Wrote:
> Something about using DACs with the Squeeze Box, using the Squeeze Box
> alone, how they compare, whether you
joncourage wrote:
> And what has happened to Robin Bowes? His user account looks weird.
What looks weird? I post through gmane, if that's what you mean.
> Would be a shame if he left for some reason after all his valuable
> contribution to these forums!?!?
Don't worry, I'm not going anywhere.
Something about using DACs with the Squeeze Box, using the Squeeze Box
alone, how they compare, whether you can have a DAC that is impervious
to jitter, and whether that matters, considering the really low jitter
of the Squeeze Box with a good cable. And, whether Stereophile was
fair. The consen
And what has happened to Robin Bowes? His user account looks weird.
Would be a shame if he left for some reason after all his valuable
contribution to these forums!?!?
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krzys;138367 Wrote:
Yes it is a SRC2496 from Behringer, has 3 digital inputs: XLR, RCA ...
It is a ridiculously nice and versatile bit of gear for the money. Not
built to withstand nuclear attack...but, go out and play with one. Very
effective.
Behringer stuff is low pri
radish;138489 Wrote:
> Yes, it does have a WC input. See the specsheet
> http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_transporter.html.
That's what I thought. Thanks.
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Sleestack;138473 Wrote:
> Wait, so the Transporter doens't have WC input so it can be slaved to
> the clock of an external DAC? What if one doesn't want to use the
> Tranporter's DAC and want's to clock the Transporter to an external
> DAC.
Yes, it does have a WC input. See the specsheet
http:/
What, you think Peter got on somebody's nerve?! Poor somebody!
[EMAIL PROTECTED];138480 Wrote:
> Is that a quote from "The Hall of the Mountain King?" (Musical
> joke..take no notice. I'll be better in a minute. Well, I shall
> if somebody gets it.)
>
> On 22 Sep 2006, at 17:08, jo
Is that a quote from "The Hall of the Mountain King?" (Musical
joke..take no notice. I'll be better in a minute. Well, I shall
if somebody gets it.)
On 22 Sep 2006, at 17:08, joncourage wrote:
Just to get on your nerves.
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Wait, so the Transporter doens't have WC input so it can be slaved to
the clock of an external DAC? What if one doesn't want to use the
Tranporter's DAC and want's to clock the Transporter to an external
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*2 channel:*
Jon,
If anything, one more component and one more set of cables in the
signal path will degrade your output. At the very best -- very best --
the preamp and cables will be perfectly transparent. In other words,
they will have no effect at all.
Of course, this is not always the case. Many comp
There have been some threads elsewhere indicating that a pre-amp does
something that enhances the sound quality - all the usual, soundstage,
etc etc.
I don't recall seeing the science behind this conclusion, just that
experiments on the part of the posters of this opinion have resulted in
this.
mauidan;138196 Wrote:
> If the Lavry is immune from jitter, why are you buying a Transporter?
Just to get on your nerves.
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Thanks for the advice. The audiophile call was only a joke of course
since here is the "audiophile" forum.
I'm intrigued how do most people for not losing the settings (as you
sae it)? I don't know of nothing in the upgrade process or in the
documentation which prevent from losing the pref files.
Regret that I am not an audiophile fellow but, if you want to make sure
that you do not lose your settings during an upgrade, may I suggest
backing up the following files:
slimserver.pref
and
type.conf
and reimporting them back in following the upgrade ?
Most people don't lose their settings
Yes it is a SRC2496 from Behringer, has 3 digital inputs: XLR, RCA and
optical (+ analogue), 3 digital outputs + analogue , makes 32 to 96 kHz
and 16 to 24 bits and has the Wordclock input ! All those goodies for
130 U$ !
Chris
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Dear audiophile fellows, once we have discussed to dead the
jitter/reclocking/phase distortion/cable/power and other very important
issues, I have one quite simple question:
how do you guys upgrade the Slimserver without loosing your settings?
I made it before and each time have to redo all the pe
mauidan wrote:
> Gee, this the same reason why people buy expensive high end transports,
> DACs, etc... or get mods/upgrades.
>
> Note to all: Please read highdudgeon posts and you'll see he loves to
> belittle these people's passion for their hobby.
>
> Now, he cries baiting/trolling when some
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