ColSanders,
I have a TacT S2150XDM that is fed by an SB2, Sonos ZP80, and a Cyrus
CD8 player via coaxial digital inputs, and an Apple Airport Express via
optical inputs - and I have never ever heard a burst of static from the
TacT regardless of the input source or the volume settings on the
sourc
pablolie;185886 Wrote:
> They compared the PC source to the TEAC Esoteric CD source through the
> Transporter's DA, among some other tests they did.
That's two reviews within the course of a week that claim the
Transporter used as a DAC and fed via S/PDIF sounds better than the
Transporter fed v
See the following thread for some of the issues/questions/answers:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32951
Hopefully we will get it written up in a wiki page for reference - its
a popular topic right now.
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opaqueice;185842 Wrote:
> You're just not getting it - this has nothing to do with the server.
> Decoding is done on the SB's CPU when you stream FLAC, and the claim
> was that the increased load on the *CPU of the squeezebox* was
> responsible for the worse sound.
That doesn't make sense. If t
I am excited about recent development higher definition downloads. This
could potentially mean that my computer gear would catch up or rise
above my SACD/DVD player. Although my SB2 is problematic when it comes
to decoding anything beyond 16/44.1, (I downloaded from HDTT and still
have not been ab
JJZolx;185844 Wrote:
> Given what you said above, is that a signal fed _from_ the TEAC or fed
> _to_ the TEAC?
They compared the PC source to the TEAC Esoteric CD source through the
Transporter's DA, among some other tests they did.
I thought HiFi News had already explained it. :-)
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Just out of curiousity, did you consider or audition the PS Audio
Digital Link III? It's supposed to have a nice warm sound and is right
around the same price range:
http://www.psaudio.com/products/digital_link_iii.asp
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Correction. That did not work (I tested on some jazz that, I guess,
didn't have much of a break between songs).
This is really frustrating and I assume it is a fault of the TacT.
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I figured out the problem -- the digital gain was set to "0."
Increasing it to 12db did away with the problem.
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ColSanders;185857 Wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I am a fairly new Squeeze Box 3 user (I was using it with a DAC) and a
> very new TacT user. ( I have the M/S 2150 XDM amp).
>
> I'm having a strange problem where I get a burst of static between
> songs played through the Squeeze Box (digital out to
Phil Leigh;185780 Wrote:
> I think you'll find that they managed to source some more (from pretty
> exotic places) and they wanted to build a variety of components
> (pre-amp, DAC etc).
>
> I don't believe it was a marketing gimmick.
The "Trivista" is a small glass valve (with solder-in leads,
While we are here, check this one out:
http://www.audiophilia.com/hardware/yamamura.htm
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The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will
improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially.
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Mark Lanctot;185269 Wrote:
> Oh yes I'm aware of HydrogenAudio. Can't post to it as I only use
> webmail addresses though. :-(
>
> But the tools they have there are for computer use. joatca's gets
> SlimServer involved to some extent.
If it helps, I could generate a couple of files with my s
Greetings,
I am a fairly new Squeeze Box 3 user (I was using it with a DAC) and a
very new TacT user. ( I have the M/S 2150 XDM amp).
I'm having a strange problem where I get a burst of static between
songs played through the Squeeze Box (digital out to the TacT). This
does not happen with In
Hi Tom,
The short answer is, Yes, you can use a SB with iTunes and your Rotel.
The long answer is that Slimserver will take care of the iTunes
interface at that end, and the Squeeze box will output standard spdif
to your Rotel at that end. In the middle, the transmitted data will
either be un
I am excited about recent development higher definition downloads. This
could potentially mean that my computer gear would catch up or rise
above my SACD/DVD player. Although my SB2 is problematic when it comes
to decoding anything beyond 16/44.1, (I downloaded from HDTT and still
have not been
pablolie;185834 Wrote:
> When they let the Transporter go against other systems, they fed the
> original CD from the TEAC Esoteric player into the SPDIF interface on
> the Transporter, basically testing if networked or direct sounds best
> over the Transporter's DA, an interesting twist.
Um, tha
Eric Carroll;185803 Wrote:
> Opinions vary, as this is audiophile land after all. Some people love
> TACTs. Others love the minimalist approach.
>
> Using the TACT implies forgoing the Tp DAC. In my opinion the whole
> point of the Tp is the close coupling of wireless audio retrieval and
> DAC.
pablolie;185839 Wrote:
> Then moving the computer away should provide an easy way of reducing the
> effect, or investing in a computer with a good enclosure (and there are
> many available). Computer can be build to pass extremely demanding EMI
> specs for some applications without a lot of money
opaqueice;185832 Wrote:
> You seem to be missing the point entirely - did you read the thread? I
> fully agree with you that there is almost certainly no such effect, but
> some people regard as reasonable the possibility that the increased CPU
> load due to processing FLAC could cause EMI which
I much prefer German audio mags to US mags because they're far more
pragmatic, and www.stereo.de has been my favorite (it also was my Dad's
kinda runs in the family). Plus it's one way to keep my German fluent
while I live in California.
But enough of that - the March issue
http://www.stereo.de/s
pablolie;185812 Wrote:
> Decoding straightforward algorithms is nothing for a modern CPU
> loadwise. This stuff is merely a matter of never starving the buffer of
> the unit that truly converts things into sound, i.e. analog
You seem to be missing the point entirely - did you read the threa
pablolie;185824 Wrote:
> Well, you are right, and it goes beyond the depth I intended. I know
> Accuphase now uses a new interface between their top performing CD
> transport and DA combo, which several mags now declare their absolute
> reference.
>
> I read the Altmann stuff, it makes for inter
dorkus;185817 Wrote:
> yes, that would be the proper way, but i was lazy and in a rush, and my
> friend has a really bad ground loop problem in his old apartment
> building so he would have lifted it anyway. although i did account for
> this somewhat... chassis ground is tied to circuit ground th
Phil Leigh;185818 Wrote:
> IMHO the idea that jitter can be eliminated purely by buffering is not
> correct. It can be ameliorated to some extent but a wordclock link
> between transport and DAC is the best method (as was used in the
> studios that mixed and mastered the CD's in the first place).
fairyliquidizer;185793 Wrote:
> Depends on your taste in music but I try to get most of mine on CD for
> £5 from www.fopp.co.uk
I had no idea Fopp had an online store. This isn't good. I spend enough
money in store as it is :(
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IMHO the idea that jitter can be eliminated purely by buffering is not
correct. It can be ameliorated to some extent but a wordclock link
between transport and DAC is the best method (as was used in the
studios that mixed and mastered the CD's in the first place). An
alternative method that works
Skunk;185815 Wrote:
> Shouldn't that top lug on the PEM be connected to a part of the case
> where you have sanded down to bare metal? Also, in a two part enclosure
> both halves should be connected to the safety ground IIRC. [i don't have
> a reference and am not a tech]
yes, that would be the
dorkus;185809 Wrote:
>
> some more pics, not very good quality but a few different angles:
>
> http://marc.picbee.net/c/marc/gallery-show/GLqp5QIDNTEU
Shouldn't that top lug on the PEM be connected to a part of the case
where you have sanded down to bare metal? Also, in a two part enclosur
opaqueice;185562 Wrote:
> OK, well, for starters we don't know whether processing load (defined
> somehow) is higher for FLAC. The CPU has many tasks to perform related
> to TCP/IP ...
Decoding straightforward algorithms is nothing for a modern CPU
loadwise. This stuff is merely a matter of nev
Anne;185805 Wrote:
> Wow, nice, how much for one ? 230 volts please
the actual parts cost isn't so bad, i'd guess well under $100 not
including PCB fabrication... but the labor is a serious PITA. i briefly
toyed with the idea of doing a group parts buy and making kits at a
reasonable price,
Mark Lanctot;185721 Wrote:
>
> Also there's some evidence to show that what comes in does not go
> through the DSP except if it's played back through the speakers:
>
> - analogue inputs cannot be sent through digital outputs and vice-versa
> (except in high-end pre/pros that digitize all incomi
I am about to purchase a SB. I want an opinion on whats the best
stradegy to stream uncompressed data through the SB directly to my
Rotel Surround Sound RS-976 Processor. I want don't want to use the
decoder in the SB. I'll use the optical or coxial link to connect
direct to my RS-976.
Can I st
dorkus;185755 Wrote:
> finally finished up my SB power supply for a friend... other than one
> silly mishap (mixing up the pinout on the regulator IC), everything
> came out ok. i didn't have time to do extensive measurements or
> listening tests but he seems happy with it.
>
> some construction
Reading another amusing thread on the merits of streaming flac vs wav
reminded me to post in this thread...
If you insist in streaming WAV you will not be able to play the 24-bit
flacs - they transcode into white noise!
Stick with streaming FLAC and the 24 bit-files play fine...
or do they? Can
harmonic;185733 Wrote:
> Hi
> But would i need a preamp for best results maybe somthing like the tact
> 2.2 xp and use the TP as a transport.?
>
> Or am i better of with keeping things as simple as possible and use the
> TP as preamp ?
>
Opinions vary, as this is audiophile land after all. Some
325xi;185795 Wrote:
> No, that's just interesting - if they raised prices indeed, and if yes,
> whether it was caused by massive interest from readers of this forum...
> :)
Gee - I'd like to think we could use such power for the good of
mankind... ;o)
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No, that's just interesting - if they raised prices indeed, and if yes,
whether it was caused by massive interest from readers of this forum...
:)
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simaudio nova cdp >> simaudio moon i-5 >> revel performa m20 via
acoustic zen matrix reference ii and acoustic zen satori
-planned additi
fairyliquidizer;185793 Wrote:
> Depends on your taste in music but I try to get most of mine on CD for
> £5 from www.fopp.co.uk
>
> Lossless downloads is very interesting although my classical collection
> is small (10 CDs or so).
>
> Fairy
I get most of mine used from Amazon for even less! :0
Depends on your taste in music but I try to get most of mine on CD for
£5 from www.fopp.co.uk
Lossless downloads is very interesting although my classical collection
is small (10 CDs or so).
Fairy
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"O wad some Power the giftie gie us
To see oursels as ithers see us!
It wad
Has anyone done any listening yet? (I'm sick of staring at waveforms).
I've just listened to:
4 Bryan Ferry HDCD remasters (In Your Mind, These Foolish Things, Lets
Stick Together, Another Time, Another Place), Mark Knopfler (Golden
Heart, Sailing to Philadelphia, Shangri-La) John Fogerty (Cente
well that's still cheaper than the $20 we have to pay in the UK! -
consider yourself fortunate!
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thanks, got the lavry,
would have like to AB against the Trivista, but compared to other
similar priced DACS (ie Benchmark etc) seems like a no brainer based on
the reviews i've read.
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P Floding;185756 Wrote:
> No, but does it matter?
> If you sell something exclusive, based on a "nuvistor" (a small metal
> canned valve), and then keep selling "Nuvista" stuff after the
> "exclusive" series is finished you dilute the exclusivity.
> I'm not saying this is wrong, just that marketi
johann;185738 Wrote:
> So you know the components in the different Nuvista based products are
> exactly the same?
No, but does it matter?
If you sell something exclusive, based on a "nuvistor" (a small metal
canned valve), and then keep selling "Nuvista" stuff after the
"exclusive" series is fin
finally finished up my SB power supply for a friend... other than one
silly mishap (mixing up the pinout on the regulator IC), everything
came out ok. i didn't have time to do extensive measurements or
listening tests but he seems happy with it.
some construction details: Corcom line input filter
I'm trying to get together a minium order to buy these transformers
from Scientic Conversion. I need three. I expect the price will be
again around $20 (unless the order size is more than 50 ;->)
If interested let me know by Wed noon.
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Eric Carroll;185727 Wrote:
> Nikhil, Skunk,
> I take doing my research and citing other people's work seriously, as I
> hope you can see from my previous hyperlinked postings.
Eric,
I apologize if I caused any bad feelings. I wasn't directing my
comments against you at all, in fact not against
P Floding;185699 Wrote:
> Yeah, but after the limited Nu-Vista pre-amp was sold out another
> "nuvista" based component came out, and then another, and so on.
So you know the components in the different Nuvista based products are
exactly the same?
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Eric Carroll;185727 Wrote:
> Nikhil, Skunk,
>
> I take doing my research and citing other people's work seriously...
>
> I view this thread as amazingly productive compared to a number of
> other ones I have participated in here. Let's not lose sight of that.
I know you do, and apologize since
Hi
I am givng the nuforce se monos some serious thourgts.
But would i need a preamp for best results maybe somthing like the tact
2.2 xp and use the TP as a transport.?
Or am i better of with keeping things as simple as possible and use the
TP as preamp ?
And even better is there enyone that h
Mark Lanctot;185721 Wrote:
> Yes but I was referring to a receiver that has a hard-coded DSP. Slim's
> use of its DSP and a receiver's use of its DSP are very different.
I wasn't trying to argue that point really, because I still think
you're right. These companies have to submit their designs
Skunk;185688 Wrote:
> Unfortunately, as Eric pointed out, most people need a direct link, and
> to have the info paraphrased for them.
Nikhil, Skunk,
I take doing my research and citing other people's work seriously, as I
hope you can see from my previous hyperlinked postings. But I am not the
I'm wondering if Linn raised prices recently? First time I looked at
them was about a couple of weeks ago, and CD most quality downloaded
were for $10-$12, now almost all are $15...
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simaudio nova cdp >> simaudio moon i-5 >> revel performa m20 via
acoustic zen matrix reference ii and a
opaqueice;185707 Wrote:
>
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14811
>
> I especially recommend reading posts #1 and #35.
But don't forget:
'_21_'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=43696&postcount=21)
'_30_'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=43822&postcount=
I have the Lavry DA-10 and think it is a wonderful DAC. Very musical,
smooth and outstanding resolution. I tried a Transporter and it wasn't
worth the extra cost to me. I think I may even like the SB3/Lavry combo
a bit better, but don't have a way to compare that back-to-back with a
Transporter.
Skunk;185681 Wrote:
> Thinking about this some more, the Sb allows 'use digital volume
> control', or 'don't use...', which would mean it's going through DSP
> first.
Yes but I was referring to a receiver that has a hard-coded DSP.
Slim's use of its DSP and a receiver's use of its DSP are very
AndyC_772;185674 Wrote:
> There's no 'potentially' about it - an 802.11g interface is a radio
> transmitter - plenty powerful enough to be picked up by your WAP on the
> other side of the house, and undoubtedly going to be picked up as
> interference by analogue circuits inside the same box.
>
>
Actually, this has been discussed before:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14811
I especially recommend reading posts #1 and #35.
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johann;185691 Wrote:
> Some of the "nuvista" have limited supply, meaning they will have to
> limit production in order to have enough components for both production
> and as spare parts.
Yeah, but after the limited Nu-Vista pre-amp was sold out another
"nuvista" based component came out, and th
P Floding;185689 Wrote:
> Anne had a perfectly legitimate question.
You're right. We should keep all the conjecture in one place.
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Listener;185577 Wrote:
>
> If the OP or Skunk or others are concerned about processor load in the
> Squeezebox, they should investigate the effect of turning off any VU
> meter type stuff and even the status display.
>
> Bill
Hi Bill.
I'm still trying to decide if your post is well crafted fac
mmg_fan;185487 Wrote:
> Why does MF make 'limited production' units?
Some of the "nuvista" have limited supply, meaning they will have to
limit production in order to have enough components for both production
and as spare parts.
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Skunk;185576 Wrote:
> Please Anne, we're up to our knees in BS already! There is no reason
> that I know of, but an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
> Truth be told I wanted it to be easier to modify.
>
> Besides, why would I want a wireless device in such a sensitive stage
> of the
slimkid;185680 Wrote:
> Of course you're right ... in '50s or '60s of the last century.
> However, we are talking Black Sabbath here. Now, try to remember when
> was it last time you saw heavy metal band playing on the Stratocaster
> plugged in directly into Mashall/Fender tube amp. Likelier, th
Nikhil;185645 Wrote:
> Sometimes never !!! Not only in this thread, but in a couple of others
> have I posted something which was completely ignored. If I am lucky it
> might crop up several posts later in the same thread or in a new thread
> as an entirely new discovery.
>
In internet culture,
AndyC_772;185674 Wrote:
> There's no 'potentially' about it - an 802.11g interface is a radio
> transmitter - plenty powerful enough to be picked up by your WAP on the
> other side of the house, and undoubtedly going to be picked up as
> interference by analogue circuits inside the same box.
>
>
mmg_fan;185487 Wrote:
>
> Why does MF make 'limited production' units?
>
Because it sells well.
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No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if
you ask me.)
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Mark Lanctot;184929 Wrote:
>
> It would truly suck if these outputs had the various DSP effects added
> to them - speaker level...[snippet]
Thinking about this some more, the Sb allows 'use digital volume
control', or 'don't use...', which would mean it's going through DSP
first.
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bobschneider;185676 Wrote:
> Of course you can know how an electric guitar sounds in a real acoustic.
> You just have to consider the amplifier as part of the instrument.
> Musicians certainly do - guitarists put as much care into the choice of
> amp as of guitar. There are plently of web sites
I haven't heard the Lavry, but the Musical Fidelity is a very nice
sounding unit and I like the tube flavor. I found an Electrocompaniet
ECD-1 DAC for $1000 and that's the one I ended up with, very smooth
sound, no harshness or stridency at all. I heard the Musical Fidelity
several years ago and c
slimkid;185653 Wrote:
> However, this is supposed to be unbiased comaprison of the high
> level/priced components. Everybody (who is into the music) knows how
> the piano, bass, human voice or any natural recordable sound sounds. So
> we know the criteria when it comes to judging the performance
Mark Lanctot;185668 Wrote:
> As Skunk pointed out, what is going on if you're receiveing wireless is
> that the wireless card is active and (potentially) emitting
> electromagnetic interference which could (potentially) be picked up in
> the audio circuits. It's as likely as the Squeezebox proce
Anne;185572 Wrote:
> A bit OT, but why would wireless sound worse than wired ?
It won't, Skunk was just trying to dig up obscure examples. :-)
The Squeezebox works by TCP/IP. -How- the packets get there won't
alter the sound one iota. It doesn't matter how they get there: wired,
wireless, pn
I do understand that, for many people, their goal when choosing a system
is to find one which reproduces sounds in a way that mimics the original
as closely as possible. That's absolutely fine and I've no problem with
that whatsoever.
However, I prefer to assess equipment based on how much I enjo
cliveb;185345 Wrote:
>
> This statement calibrates their credibility to zero. There is
> absolutely no way that the signal emerging from a Transporter fed from
> one of its SPDIF inputs can possibly be more accurate than from its
> network interface. So if we are to accept that HiFi News genuine
AndyC_772;185365 Wrote:
>
> Similarly, I don't think anyone can say they have no credibility
> because they choose to use Black Sabbath as a test track. Don't heavy
> metal fans get a vote too? Personally I couldn't give a stuff how a
> system sounds with jazz or classical - if it doesn't reprod
Skunk;185561 Wrote:
>
> Apparently 15 pages is how long it takes to rediscover the wheel in
> this case :-)
Sometimes never !!! Not only in this thread, but in a couple of others
have I posted something which was completely ignored. If I am lucky it
might crop up several posts later in the same
GaryB;185590 Wrote:
> Do you mean to say that listening results have no place in a review?
> That's certainly not a view I would support. For those of you old
> enough to remember Stereo Review magazine
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereo_Review) - towards the end it was
> only measurements
You should read what I write when I'm sober :)
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