Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Today's upgrade

2007-03-19 Thread AndyC_772
Machine Dynamica Wrote: > Machina Dynamica produces the Clever Little Clock with the kind > permission of PWB Electronics. Hm... there's a clue ;) -- AndyC_772 AndyC_772's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.p

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Little office/bedroom system

2007-03-19 Thread darrellcraig
My little home office system is NAD C325BEE, Epos ESL-3, SB3 (no DAC), some kind of Rega flattish speaker wire. Enjoy it immensely! -- darrellcraig SB2(2),SB3(1),Linn Kairn, Linn LK 100, Musical Fidelity X-Ray v3, B&W 802 S3, Epos ELS3, NAD 325BEE, Spica TC-50, etc. ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Today's upgrade

2007-03-19 Thread tyler_durden
P Floding;188495 Wrote: > > Seems the jokes never end on this kind of sites. > Are those testimonials fake? I hope so, at least... In this situation, the proper term is not "fake" but "schill". TD -- tyler_durden tyler

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply (technical)

2007-03-19 Thread Skunk
P Floding;188928 Wrote: > In that case, strictly speaking, you can only add things to the audio > chain before the microphone and after the loudspeakers. It's not as if > an electrical signal is sound. Robin was pointing out that you wouldn't be adding anything redundant, like sending analog to a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Today's upgrade

2007-03-19 Thread P Floding
Seems that this "upgrade" (the new unswitched power outlet) was more significant for sound quality than I thought. The sound improvement has been fundamental. Of course, it could all be placebo, but then again, we might all be imaginary as well. -- P Floding No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't ev

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply (technical)

2007-03-19 Thread P Floding
Robin Bowes;188857 Wrote: > jgueron wrote: > > I disagree with Pat Farrell, when he says "There can be no audio > > quality improvement in adding > > anything to the audio chain" > > > > I conneted the SB3 to a DAC, the Benchmark DAC1, and the > improvement > > in quality of sound was remarka

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: What exactly is break or burn in time?

2007-03-19 Thread ErikM
Damn I think I'll just chuck my fancy wires and just rewire with some lamp cord and them freebie cables that came in the box... Hey Opie sure you ain't related to Julian Hirsh?? He could never hear any differences either, lol -- ErikM

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs PC as a source

2007-03-19 Thread SuperQ
Bob Bressler;188911 Wrote: > Jean, > That card looks like it might be optimized for microphones or at least > other balanced devices. Is there a way to get S/PDIF out to go to a > DAC? If you read the web page linked, it seems fairly obvious: Digital Output * XLR AES/EBU (balanced), galvanic is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Review in Hi-Fi News (UK)

2007-03-19 Thread seanadams
Jaco;12 Wrote: > Hi Sean, > > Thank you for the informative reply regarding jitter in the > Transporter. Given that so much attention is given to the jitter in the > design of the Transporter and that the results measured by the Miller > test aren't really relevant, then the results of the H

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs PC as a source

2007-03-19 Thread Bob Bressler
Jean, That card looks like it might be optimized for microphones or at least other balanced devices. Is there a way to get S/PDIF out to go to a DAC? -- Bob Bressler Bob Audio Note CDT-Two->Audio Note DAC5 + Slim Transporter->Spectral DMC-20->Kassai amp->Audio Note AN Es --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Review in Hi-Fi News (UK)

2007-03-19 Thread opaqueice
You're asking him to explain the subjective impressions of some biased reviewed? He's an engineer, not a psychologist. Do they really use peak-peak results? Meaning the largest deviation from the ideal between two edges that occurs in some sample? If so that's an incredibly stupid way to chara

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CAL Sigma II Tube Dac?

2007-03-19 Thread kphinney
Can I get your opinion on this model? I miss the warmth of my tube system, but my wife enjoys the easy of use of our current system and is keeping my budget low. Do you think the CAL Sigma II can add some depth and warmth to my current SB3 / Marantz / B&W system? -- kphinney SB3 -> Marantz Z

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: What exactly is break or burn in time?

2007-03-19 Thread opaqueice
mmg_fan;11 Wrote: > It seems that the general consensus is that solid state components > definitely DO benefit from a warm-up AND break-in/burnin time. This is > something that is measureable. > There is no such consensus. Suppose such a thing were true. In order to make an audible dif

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BEST sounding noise cancelling headphones

2007-03-19 Thread Siriosys
Might I suggest you have a peep over at www.head-fi.org They've got HEAPS and HEAPS of stuff in their forums on good cans. Instead of 'noise cancelling' have you considered 'Isolation' based cans? Ones that come to mind are made by: Etymotic Research Shure Ultimate Ears I own a pair of the Ety

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs PC as a source

2007-03-19 Thread zano65
adamslim;188811 Wrote: > Yeah there are soundcards that are meant to sound good. I bought an > Audigy 2 hoping it would one of these, and, err, it wasn't. Turns out > it upsamples everything to 96kHz internally. Whatever, it is worse as > a digital source than a reasonable CD player (my old Ar

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: What exactly is break or burn in time?

2007-03-19 Thread ErikM
So when I put in a new set of speakers cables and they sound bright, grainey and lack bass, but after playing music through them for X hours and they don't sound that way anymore it's a placebo effect?? Because if the system still sounded like crap I'd return the cables... I only ask beause when

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Review in Hi-Fi News (UK)

2007-03-19 Thread Jaco
Hi Sean, Thank you for the informative reply regarding jitter in the Transporter. Given that so much attention is given to the jitter in the design of the Transporter and that the results measured by the Miller test aren't really relevant, then the results of the Hifi News review still begs the f

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: What exactly is break or burn in time?

2007-03-19 Thread mmg_fan
It seems that the general consensus is that solid state components definitely DO benefit from a warm-up AND break-in/burnin time. This is something that is measureable. As for speaker cables, from what i've read, the general consensus is that any perceived diffrence in quality after a break-in t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: What exactly is break or burn in time?

2007-03-19 Thread jmourik
So do all their amps sound the same before and/or after burn-in? :-) -- jmourik jmourik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7123 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=336

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FLAC file size

2007-03-19 Thread abdomen
thomsens;188706 Wrote: > The sample CD I chose was Santana's Shaman. So I guess this fits in the > "busy" category. For reference, the CD took up 519Mb for FLAC and it > was only 138Mb for extreme MP3 VBR. That's a 3.75 x the disk space, > which is amazing since the MP3 sounds great at that qu

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BEST sounding noise cancelling headphones

2007-03-19 Thread mmg_fan
hi What I am looking for probably doesn't exist but i though i'd ask anyways. I have a pair of Grado SR-80's and old Sennheiser HD 495's What I am looking for is a new pair of noise cancelling headphones that sound as good as the Grado's (the best sound I have heard yet in headphones) , are as

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: What exactly is break or burn in time?

2007-03-19 Thread ErikM
Here's a thought. Why is it that every audio designer/engineer that I've ever spoken to or read comments from has commented that their gear needs to burn/break in to sound it's best? These are guys like William Johnson ( Audio Research), Dan D'Aagostino ( Krell), Charley Hansen ( Ayre), etc.. Thes

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply (technical)

2007-03-19 Thread Robin Bowes
jgueron wrote: > I disagree with Pat Farrell, when he says "There can be no audio > quality improvement in adding > anything to the audio chain" > > I conneted the SB3 to a DAC, the Benchmark DAC1, and the improvement > in quality of sound was remarkable! > Please try it! Ah, but strictly spea

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply (technical)

2007-03-19 Thread mudlark
seanadams;188843 Wrote: > Actually, it suppresses EMI from coming _out_ of the box. Tee Hee, M. -- mudlark SB3>CyrusDACX>PreXvs>260A>KEFiQ7 cable Avondale server Kubuntu Edgy, linkstation for storage. DIY SB3 3A linear power supply. --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply (technical)

2007-03-19 Thread seanadams
amcluesent;188356 Wrote: > (hence the ferrite-core on the wire to suppress this) Actually, it suppresses EMI from coming _out_ of the box. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bolder Cable Elpac Mods - First Impressions

2007-03-19 Thread Phil Leigh
ErikM;188827 Wrote: > Markhh2, sorry but you posted to the wrong forum. This is the > Anti-Audiophile forum where break in doesn't exist and eveything sounds > the same FWIW the digital mod is a nice improvement for $200.00... LOL - however actually I was wrong...after the initial euphoria o

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bolder Cable Elpac Mods - First Impressions

2007-03-19 Thread tomjtx
If you have a good DAC you are wasting money with the mods, IMO, they made no difference in my system. The anolog mods do improve the sound but not as much as a good DAC. Stock SB with elpac into Lavry DAC10 or comparable will rival pretty much anything out there. If you want to spend more, get

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bolder Cable Elpac Mods - First Impressions

2007-03-19 Thread ErikM
Markhh2, sorry but you posted to the wrong forum. This is the Anti-Audiophile forum where break in doesn't exist and eveything sounds the same FWIW the digital mod is a nice improvement for $200.00... -- ErikM ErikM's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply (technical)

2007-03-19 Thread P Floding
Pat Farrell;188819 Wrote: > jgueron wrote: > > I disagree with Pat Farrell, when he says "There can be no audio > > quality improvement in adding anything to the audio chain" > > > > I connected the SB3 to a DAC, the Benchmark DAC1, and the > improvement > > in quality of sound was remarkable

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs PC as a source

2007-03-19 Thread P Floding
adamslim;188811 Wrote: > Yeah there are soundcards that are meant to sound good. I bought an > Audigy 2 hoping it would one of these, and, err, it wasn't. Turns out > it upsamples everything to 96kHz internally. Whatever, it is worse as > a digital source than a reasonable CD player (my old Ar

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply (technical)

2007-03-19 Thread Pat Farrell
jgueron wrote: > I disagree with Pat Farrell, when he says "There can be no audio > quality improvement in adding anything to the audio chain" > > I connected the SB3 to a DAC, the Benchmark DAC1, and the improvement > in quality of sound was remarkable! You are correct. I was a bit sloppy in

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply (technical)

2007-03-19 Thread jgueron
I disagree with Pat Farrell, when he says "There can be no audio quality improvement in adding anything to the audio chain" I conneted the SB3 to a DAC, the Benchmark DAC1, and the improvement in quality of sound was remarkable! Please try it! Regards Joe Gueron Pat Farrell;188363 Wrote:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bolder Cable Elpac Mods - First Impressions

2007-03-19 Thread Phil Leigh
That's interesting...the first few miles or so the car is breaking in...after that, it's breaking down :o) -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://for

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs PC as a source

2007-03-19 Thread adamslim
Yeah there are soundcards that are meant to sound good. I bought an Audigy 2 hoping it would one of these, and, err, it wasn't. Turns out it upsamples everything to 96kHz internally. Whatever, it is worse as a digital source than a reasonable CD player (my old Arcam Alpha 5+, both into a Meridi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter review at Audioholics

2007-03-19 Thread adamslim
Nostromo;188695 Wrote: > I don't know, I prefer investing in something that makes a real > difference, like the speakers. Lots of people say this. Sure, it's dead easy to tell the difference between speakers, but I always find it's the source components that really affect my enjoyment of the so

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bolder Cable Elpac Mods - First Impressions

2007-03-19 Thread slimkid
Phil Leigh;188623 Wrote: > Hmmm...funny how break-in NEVER makes things sound worse... how do you mean 'never'? for example, brand new car has a life expectancy, say 250K Km. That same car, after being properly broken in, after 20 000 Km, has now a life expectancy of 230K Km. So, new was better

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs PC as a source

2007-03-19 Thread Skunk
It sounds like the PC resamples everything to 48kHz, or does your DAC indicate otherwise? I'd like to do this comparison as well, but after nixing kmixer and using toslink from my cheap soundcard to my cheap DAC, which the Squeezebox usually feeds via coax s/pdif. Triode posted a plugin in the d

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FLAC file size

2007-03-19 Thread mlsstl
One caution about MP3 (which you've probably heard) is that it is still "lossy" compression. That means that part of the sound is simply thrown away as "unimportant." That makes MP3 a very efficient format for file size reduction, but once those bits and bytes get tossed, they are just gone. MP

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter review at Audioholics

2007-03-19 Thread P Floding
Nostromo;188701 Wrote: > My guess is that it depends mainly on the room you put it in and on the > amp. As for $100k speakers, ask the happy few who can afford them ;) > But I would assume that for traditionnal speakers (monkey coffins), the > law of diminishing returns jumps in at about $4K or

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter review at Audioholics

2007-03-19 Thread CardinalFang
johann;188628 Wrote: > BTW, I have now a new Musical Fidelity DAC for test, the X-DACv8. First > impression is a better sound than the X-DAC-v3 but I need to listen > some more and then also try to AB test it. :) I'd be really interested how it compares with the Transporter. I have a V3 I use wi