Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-05-04 Thread Jetlag
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Records now doing FLAC

2007-05-04 Thread adamslim
Right then, what shenanigans! First of all the 24/88.2 files play slowly on the SB3, sent FLAC-FLAC. Sending via wav gets white noise. MP3 works, which hardly solves the problem. The files play fine on foobar; everything (inc DBPowerAmp) reports them as 24/88.2. Interestingly the test wma fil

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Records now doing FLAC

2007-05-04 Thread adamslim
lostboy;199616 Wrote: > I tried the very short 24/88.2 test sample on my SB3 (SS 6.5.1) and it > plays veeerrryyy sssllww. Yeah that soprano has definitely had a sex change. Good job I decided to wait until I got home before getting the credit card out! Anyone know why? It is correctly fl

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Jitter reduction mechanisms in Transporter?

2007-05-04 Thread Pat Farrell
seanadams wrote: > I just didn't see the thread. There is nothing really top secret about > how we achieve low jitter, You left out designed and engineered by smart, talented and good looking people. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Jitter reduction mechanisms in Transporter?

2007-05-04 Thread seanadams
When used as an outboard DAC, you must use Transporter's word clock output capability if you want to get all the benefits of its internal clock. If the clock is recovered from S/PDIF, there is no added processing mechanism (such as ASRC) to reduce jitter, so you would be limited by the quality of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Jitter reduction mechanisms in Transporter?

2007-05-04 Thread seanadams
I just didn't see the thread. There is nothing really top secret about how we achieve low jitter, although measurements indicate that Transporter's implementation is far better than most. Typically an oscillator will measure 25-50 ps cyc-cyc RMS whereas ours is 11 ps. Then everything else in the c

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-05-04 Thread audioengr
seanadams;199637 Wrote: > i2s eliminates one weakness of s/pdif, the biphase clock recovery, but > that is not the only source of jitter. Unless you get the clock very > close to the DAC, and without going through a cable and connectors, it > is not going to be a huge overall improvement. Why don

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Jitter reduction mechanisms in Transporter?

2007-05-04 Thread 325xi
Total silence on the subject, interesting... Is it a trade secret, or?.. -- 325xi 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=349

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Classical music and the SB3 buffer

2007-05-04 Thread fezco
The files are WMA VBR98 and a few are lossless. It isn't a big deal. I'm just wondering if we can config the SB3 to spool up more than a couple of files. I'm not experiencing any dropouts. -- fezco fezco's Profile: http://

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-05-04 Thread seanadams
audioengr;199628 Wrote: > > Why an I2S bus as an output? Because, there is little point in > eliminating jitter just to add it back in by encoding and decoding > S/PDIF. There are enough great DAC's with I2S input available anyway. i2s eliminates one weakness of s/pdif, the biphase clock reco

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-05-04 Thread audioengr
I have a mod that will make jitter inaudible. It is called a "Pace-Car". It is a block box that provides the master clock to the SB3 over a mini-coax cable. The internal clock is replaced with this clock. Then the data is clocked from the SB3 over the S/PDIF cable into a FIFO memory in the Pace-

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-05-04 Thread audioengr
mswlogo;199204 Wrote: > There is a strong bias by audiophiles that Coax (RCA) is better than > TosLink. I wouldn't avoid RCA 75ohm Coax just because there is a debate > over BNC vs RCA connectors. My understanding is that RCA connectors are > fine at the speeds and distances SPDIF runs. This is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DRM lessons from the Squeezebox

2007-05-04 Thread nicketynick
Pat Farrell;199623 Wrote: > > One can argue, say whether Ford is better than Chevy, but it is really > a > question of belief, and you can't argue belief. > > Silly me, I forgot we're on the Audiophile forum, where belief/faith/religion is at the centre of many of the discussions! (ie. ebony

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-05-04 Thread 325xi
krochat;199420 Wrote: > Yes, Cool Edit is as good as Audition as far as I know. I've used both > with good results. It has little to do with your personal experience. Check this thread first: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32958 Or go directly to http://src.infinitewave.ca/, i

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DRM lessons from the Squeezebox

2007-05-04 Thread EFP
nicketynick;199621 Wrote: > I wonder if we were able to argue persuasively enough to convince him to > reconsider his position, or if he has just dismissed the lot of us as > raving lunatics? I think it can be assumed that he has pity for our feeble minds. willyhoops;199246 Wrote: > it amazi

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] raving lunatics

2007-05-04 Thread Pat Farrell
nicketynick wrote: > I've often wondered about the effectiveness of > 'internet-forum' debate has anybody ever made a study of this? I > would think it would make a great post-grad thesis. One can argue, say whether Ford is better than Chevy, but it is really a question of belief, and you can

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DRM lessons from the Squeezebox

2007-05-04 Thread nicketynick
Well, we seem to have chased our antagonist off temporarily. I wonder if we were able to argue persuasively enough to convince him to reconsider his position, or if he has just dismissed the lot of us as raving lunatics? I've often wondered about the effectiveness of 'internet-forum' debate ha

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Classical music and the SB3 buffer

2007-05-04 Thread dean
What file format are these files? Where are they stored? Also, do you have multiple players synced? -- dean dean's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.co

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Classical music and the SB3 buffer

2007-05-04 Thread amcluesent
I've seen this with all music, the display appears to show the buffer dropping to zero at the end of a track, then refilling as the next one plays. Seems unlikely this would be the actual behaviour as it negates the point of pre-fetching? -- amcluesent --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Records now doing FLAC

2007-05-04 Thread lostboy
I tried the very short 24/88.2 test sample on my SB3 (SS 6.5.1) and it plays veeerrryyy sssllww. Chris -- lostboy lostboy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=125 View this thread: http://forums.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Classical music and the SB3 buffer

2007-05-04 Thread fezco
Nope... it just takes a while to load up between tracks it seems. -- fezco fezco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3855 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35004 _

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Classical music and the SB3 buffer

2007-05-04 Thread seanadams
Are you getting audible dropouts in the sound? -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35004 ___

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] InguzEQ does not show up after install

2007-05-04 Thread tonyptony
Using XP Pro SP2. I'll try the Installer. -- tonyptony tonyptony's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35001 _

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-05-04 Thread krochat
Phil Leigh;199592 Wrote: > Kim - I'm keen to try this 48k into tact thing but I don't have Audition > and my Cool Edit has "disappeared" (I hadn't used it in a long long > time) - are there any other packages that can do a good job of > 44.1-48...preferably ones that I can try before buy with ful

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Classical music and the SB3 buffer

2007-05-04 Thread fezco
Maybe I should post this under 'kitchen sink,' but I have a shortcut to this, my favorite forum; I listen to quite a bit of classical keyboard music. I was listening to some harpsichord keyboard works last night and my SB3 was repeatedly getting 'low' buffer. Each track was about two minutes or l

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-05-04 Thread mswlogo
dbpoweramp can do it. How good it is I can't say. They seem to do everything I need extremely well. -- mswlogo mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdev

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-05-04 Thread Phil Leigh
krochat;199420 Wrote: > You don't even have to de/re flac - there's a FLAC plugin for > Audition/Cool Edit - http://www.vuplayer.com/audition.php > > Yes, Cool Edit is as good as Audition as far as I know. I've used both > with good results. I don't know if the Audition function is exactly the >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] InguzEQ does not show up after install

2007-05-04 Thread inguz
It should show up, regardless where SlimServer is installed. Are you running XP? If so, I'd recommend using the Windows installer instead of manually installing the pieces (it's much more convenient, since you then get a desktop shortcut that takes you all the right places. But right now some Vi

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] InguzEQ does not show up after install

2007-05-04 Thread tonyptony
I did a manual install of the EQ plugin per the instructions on Hugh's website. All the files are in the right place and I have .NET 2.0 installed and running, but the EQ plugin does not show up on my Slimserver > Server > Plugins settings. Does Inguz show up if Slimserver is not installed on the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Records now doing FLAC

2007-05-04 Thread willyhoops
let us know what its like - that's very interesting. did you buy the same recording in 16 bit and 24bit? that would be even better... maybe you could post some exxamples so we can all try out 24bit? -- willyhoops willyhoop

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DRM lessons from the Squeezebox

2007-05-04 Thread opaqueice
willyhoops;199390 Wrote: > > However the world would not work if copyright lost meaning generally. I > don't think there are many people who seriously think that should be the > case (if it was, China would mass produce everything anyone else in the > world invented, and pay them nothing for it,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-05-04 Thread Robin Bowes
adamslim wrote: > Well my soon-to-arrive SB+ is logo-free :) Not if you upgrade to the latest firmware it isn't. :) R. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-05-04 Thread cliveb
Heuer;199513 Wrote: > Nope both awaiting stock. Transporters are going through a "Logitech > re-branding and transisioning phase" so they will proudly announce > their new corporate logo on switch on! This really is a huge mistake, marketing-wise. The audiophile community just isn't going to beli

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-05-04 Thread adamslim
Well my soon-to-arrive SB+ is logo-free :) Are the nice backlit remotes Logitech-branded now? -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others http://www.last.fm/user/AdamSlim/ 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (htt

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Records now doing FLAC

2007-05-04 Thread adamslim
Rangdo;199510 Wrote: > At the risk of being a bit thick, the studio master FLACs say 24/88.2, > not 24/96? > > Am I missing something? No - they vary. Some are 88.2, some 96. 88.2 generally would seems to make more sense for CD mastering, I would have thought. Is there an issue with 88.2 on

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Jitter reduction mechanisms in Transporter?

2007-05-04 Thread tomjtx
325xi;199347 Wrote: > Sorry if this was discussed already, I did search, but found no clear > answer... > > After Lavry DA10 got busted, I started to consider other options for my > next DAC, and of course Transporter is on my list. > > I know its own internal jitter is very low, but what I wan

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-05-04 Thread Heuer
Nope both awaiting stock. Transporters are going through a "Logitech re-branding and transisioning phase" so they will proudly announce their new corporate logo on switch on! -- Heuer Heuer's Profile: http://forums.slimdev

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Records now doing FLAC

2007-05-04 Thread Rangdo
At the risk of being a bit thick, the studio master FLACs say 24/88.2, not 24/96? Am I missing something? -- Rangdo GRONDA GRONDA SB 2 [Stereovox XV2] > Benchmark DAC1 [NVA Soundpipe] > Cyrus Pre Xvs [NVA Soundpipe] > Cyrus X-Power [Chord Rumour 4] > MA GR20 -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Records now doing FLAC

2007-05-04 Thread adamslim
JJZolx;199445 Wrote: > They charge nearly double for 24bit encodings? What's the justification > - the cost of bandwidth? Because it certainly doesn't cost them a penny > more in additional labor. It does seem reasonable to do so to me - it is a superior product. We have long argued that iTun

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Records now doing FLAC

2007-05-04 Thread valeite
davep;199497 Wrote: > I certainly would not describe Claire Martin, Ian Shaw, Tommy Smith, Tim > Garland, etc as "2nd and 3rd rate musicians". Perhaps, being British, > they are not as well known internationally as some, but they are all > Jazz musicians of the highest order. > > davep Ditto t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Records now doing FLAC

2007-05-04 Thread davep
JJZolx;199445 Wrote: > > I wonder if Linn Records is anything like the US's Mapleshade. > Impeccably recorded 2nd and 3rd rate musicians. I certainly would not describe Claire Martin, Ian Shaw, Tommy Smith, Tim Garland, etc as "2nd and 3rd rate musicians". Perhaps, being British, they are not

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-05-04 Thread Ray70
As of a couple of days ago, www.mediahome.co.uk had a black TP in stock. Speak to Richard - he's been very helpful talking me through my purchase. And no, I have nothing to do with the company! -- Ray70 Ray70's Profile: ht

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-05-04 Thread davidcotton
Also www.advancedmp3players.co.uk can get them in with a couple of days notice. -- davidcotton davidcotton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/sho