Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How good is the DAC in the Squeezebox 3?

2007-06-04 Thread seanadams
mswlogo;206845 Wrote: > If you have one digital attentuator what does a 2nd add. Why can't the > one feed the DAC and the SPDIF? > > What you seem to be talking about is attenuation limits rather than an > attenuator. > > Your talking about how big a coconut can or needs to be, I'm talking > ab

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How good is the DAC in the Squeezebox 3?

2007-06-04 Thread mswlogo
opaqueice;206838 Wrote: > What does "needed" mean? You can make music with two coconuts, or one > coconut and your head. > > My understanding was that the preamp volume setting is a convenience > for those that want to set the maximum volume level attainable with the > remote or standard volume

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How good is the DAC in the Squeezebox 3?

2007-06-04 Thread jdbaker
What does "needed" mean? You can make music with two coconuts, or one coconut and your head. Dude, that is funny. -- jdbaker SB3/Parasound C2/A51/PSB CHS60's/CHS40/Triad Gold Dipole Inwall Surrounds/Triad Inwall Silver Sub. SB3/Arcam FMJ A32/Monitor Audio Silver S6 ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Personal Introductions: Please Make This a Sticky!

2007-06-04 Thread mswlogo
1 - Music Experience: I don't play an instrument or can sing a tune. 1 - Audio Experience: I’m not recording engineer. 1 – Hobby Drive: Laziness (tired of flipping CD's w.r.t SqueezeBox). Home Theater/Enjoy Music (General Music system). 1 - Slim Devices: Heard about it on http://meridianunplugged.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How good is the DAC in the Squeezebox 3?

2007-06-04 Thread opaqueice
What does "needed" mean? You can make music with two coconuts, or one coconut and your head. My understanding was that the preamp volume setting is a convenience for those that want to set the maximum volume level attainable with the remote or standard volume control lower than the maximum possi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Personal Introductions: Please Make This a Sticky!

2007-06-04 Thread RalphO
I guess that it is about time that I posted an introduction. My name is Ralph which I supposed you have already guessed. 1. You post about your music experience, your audio experience, what drives you in this hobby, what brings you to Slim Devices, etc. I have been a music nutcase since I can

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How good is the DAC in the Squeezebox 3?

2007-06-04 Thread mswlogo
seanadams;206806 Wrote: > They're both digital. Why are TWO digital volumes needed? -- mswlogo mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showt

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How good is the DAC in the Squeezebox 3?

2007-06-04 Thread seanadams
mswlogo;206803 Wrote: > > This does not sound like a Digital Volume control, but digitally > controlled analog output level. They're both digital. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.p

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How good is the DAC in the Squeezebox 3?

2007-06-04 Thread mswlogo
I can understand that there is a "PreAmp Analog Level" to match your amp or Preamp in the SB2/3. But can this be controlled via the Remote Control? Or are folks using SlimServer or something to "adjust" it. If SB3/2 does have an analog preamp section then yes I agree the less "Preamps" the better

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How good is the DAC in the Squeezebox 3?

2007-06-04 Thread JohnSwenson
mswlogo;206724 Wrote: > There are two volume controls on the SB3. > > The analog output, I assume (and I could be incorrect) has an analog > attenuator after the DAC. I'd be very surprised if it didn't and used > just digital attentuation before the DAC. > > Actually there are two digital vo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.

2007-06-04 Thread slimkid
Pat Farrell;206764 Wrote: > > Thank you. I was repulsed by how that thread degraded. > Audiophiles are about love of music. > > > -- > Pat Farrell > http://www.pfarrell.com/ Like in music before sound? M, hm, didn't get that impression from any of audiophile forums I attend :) -- slimkid

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.

2007-06-04 Thread Pat Farrell
nicketynick wrote: > Pat Farrell;206776 Wrote: >> Of course the best Wagner Opera is Bugs Bunny's version >> What's Opera, Doc? >> >> Bugs is in drag as the Valkyrie Brunhilde who sits on an overwieght >> horse. "She" is pursued by Elmer playing the demigod "Siegfried" >> >> It is funny as a Bugs

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.

2007-06-04 Thread nicketynick
Pat Farrell;206776 Wrote: > nicketynick wrote: > > Pat Farrell;206764 Wrote: > >> Thank you. I was repulsed by how that thread degraded. > >> Audiophiles are about love of music. > > There's always somebody who brings up Wagner. threadkiller! > > :-) > > Of course the best Wagner Opera is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.

2007-06-04 Thread Pat Farrell
nicketynick wrote: > Pat Farrell;206764 Wrote: >> Thank you. I was repulsed by how that thread degraded. >> Audiophiles are about love of music. > There's always somebody who brings up Wagner. threadkiller! > :-) Of course the best Wagner Opera is Bugs Bunny's version What's Opera, Doc? Bug

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.

2007-06-04 Thread Mark Lanctot
If it was me I apologize. I'm usually one to take a joke a bit too far... Post deleted. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910&postcount=2)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.

2007-06-04 Thread nicketynick
Pat Farrell;206764 Wrote: > mvalera wrote: > > Guys, please refrain from posts about body mutilation and suicide. > > Any more posts like that and this thread gets deleted. > > Thank you. I was repulsed by how that thread degraded. > Audiophiles are about love of music. > > > -- > Pat Farre

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3+ External DAC or Transporter...

2007-06-04 Thread linuxtx
Okay, after researching this a bit, I think I will have to go with the Musical Fidelity X-DAC v8. It is more flexible over all, and should do okay with the SB3. It does have jitter reduction, which helps, and the tube output buffer option is just too sweet to pass up. I guess I will just have t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.

2007-06-04 Thread Pat Farrell
mvalera wrote: > Guys, please refrain from posts about body mutilation and suicide. > Any more posts like that and this thread gets deleted. Thank you. I was repulsed by how that thread degraded. Audiophiles are about love of music. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How good is the DAC in the Squeezebox 3?

2007-06-04 Thread Skunk
mswlogo;206724 Wrote: > I assumed folks doing the "Direct to Analog AMP" knew what they were > doing. Apparently not. I should have known based on past reading people > do very silly things here in the name of "audiophile". Sorry about that. They know what they're doing. The transporter has anal

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.

2007-06-04 Thread tomjtx
mvalera;206738 Wrote: > Guys, please refrain from posts about body mutilation and suicide. > Any more posts like that and this thread gets deleted. > > Thanks, > > Mike spoilsport :-) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.

2007-06-04 Thread mvalera
Guys, please refrain from posts about body mutilation and suicide. Any more posts like that and this thread gets deleted. Thanks, Mike -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager slimdevices.com mvalera's Pr

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How good is the DAC in the Squeezebox 3?

2007-06-04 Thread mswlogo
AndyC_772;206720 Wrote: > Skunk: not a bad idea, maybe I'll give that a go. > > mswlogo: I DO understand what the pre-power jumper is for and where it > fits into the signal chain. Honest. > > I think you'll find, though, that the SB3's volume control works in the > digital domain, attenuating

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How good is the DAC in the Squeezebox 3?

2007-06-04 Thread AndyC_772
Skunk: not a bad idea, maybe I'll give that a go. mswlogo: I DO understand what the pre-power jumper is for and where it fits into the signal chain. Honest. I think you'll find, though, that the SB3's volume control works in the digital domain, attenuating the signal by varying amounts by multip

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How good is the DAC in the Squeezebox 3?

2007-06-04 Thread mswlogo
AndyC_772;206677 Wrote: > The .1 is a bass channel, but it's not quite the same thing as a > subwoofer channel. It's band limited but also has a 6dB gain difference > from the main channels, so it can carry higher levels without > saturating. > > The AV amp, however, doesn't just route this chan

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How good is the DAC in the Squeezebox 3?

2007-06-04 Thread Skunk
AndyC_772;206677 Wrote: > > For what it's worth, the DSP-A1 does have pre-out/power-in jumpers, > maybe I should try these - though that would mean using the SB3's > digital attenuation which means it's not really a fair comparison. After using the digital volume control to find the level of at

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How good is the DAC in the Squeezebox 3?

2007-06-04 Thread Mark Lanctot
At least on the receivers I've had, the "LFE" input of the 5.1 input section had already gone through the bass management of the external decoder - therefore the receiver did not apply any processing to it. In this respect it's not really only LFE, it's any downmixed bass from the other channels

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How good is the DAC in the Squeezebox 3?

2007-06-04 Thread AndyC_772
The .1 is a bass channel, but it's not quite the same thing as a subwoofer channel. It's band limited but also has a 6dB gain difference from the main channels, so it can carry higher levels without saturating. The AV amp, however, doesn't just route this channel straight to the sub - instead it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How good is the DAC in the Squeezebox 3?

2007-06-04 Thread Mark Lanctot
None of the two Denon receivers I had or my current Marantz receiver does - otherwise, what is the point of the ".1" or LFE input? -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910&postcount=2) ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help me spend my money!

2007-06-04 Thread Hypnotoad
Any recommendations for a Balanced tube amp for under $2000? -- Hypnotoad Hypnotoad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11812 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35766 _

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help me spend my money!

2007-06-04 Thread _sandis_
If you have free space in garage or whatever, and don't care noise, then just any old computer will do. Mini mac is just particular version very similar to mini-itx, packaged and budled with MacOS. PS. mini mac isn't fanless. http://www.macintouch.com/macmini/review.html Wrote: > > At an ambi